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Choose the wrestler who you think belongs more in a tournament of the greatest of the promotion from 1985 to 2005. Please do not factor their work in other companies into your decision. Voting will end Sunday at 12:00 CST. Please provide your answer with a mere name on the first line, and if you choose to elaborate, do so after making your pick. Thank you.

Mike Awesome vs. Lance Storm from New Blood Rising for the 'Canadian' title. This is a really disappointing match. Storm comes out and the crowd is eating out of the palm of his hand as he cuts a pretty cool standard cheap heat promo. Seriously, this is the best stuff WCW did in such a long time, shame that Storm had his legs cut out from underneath him. Since it's in Vancouver, it's under 'Canadian Rules' which apparently calls for a guest referee to go along with the 'real' ref. There's a HUGE 'Bret!' chant, so when Jacques Rougeau comes out, the crowd obviously doesn't give a shit and is silent. Onto the match, it's a trainwreck. Awesome pretty much domi…

[Mod's note: I split this off from the "What Are You Watching?" thread, because it's a topic worth discussing in and of itself. This is HTQ responding to one of the last match reviews I did and the discussion continued from there. -- Loss] Straight from the Observer you wanted me to post a few days ago. Dave has consistently stated that part of WCW's success was a strong in-ring product.

Choose the tag team who you think belongs more in a tournament of the greatest of the promotion from 1985 to 2005. Please do not factor their work in other companies into your decision. Voting will end Sunday at 12:00 CST. Please provide your answer with a mere name on the first line, and if you choose to elaborate, do so after making your pick. Thank you.

Mod's note -- If this topic makes no sense, it's because all the match reviews were pulled out afterward and posted in the match reviews folder that we didn't have at the time, but that we now have. Check it out, it'll make much more sense than this thread. -- Loss 05/02/05 Just received a boatload of DVDs from goodhelmet. So far, I've watched Jim Cornette - Secrets of the Ring and one other match I'll talk more about later. Secrets of the Ring is a fascinating viewing, hearing Cornette explain the basics of the face/heel structure, a money promo and psychology, and also explaining some of the differences between working singles and tags. I must admit that I chuck…

Choose the wrestler who you think belongs more in a tournament of the greatest of the promotion from 1985 to 2005. Please do not factor their work in other companies into your decision. Voting will end Sunday at 12:00 CST. Please provide your answer with a mere name on the first line, and if you choose to elaborate, do so after making your pick. Thank you.

Choose the wrestler who you think belongs more in a tournament of the greatest of the promotion from 1985 to 2005. Please do not factor their work in other companies into your decision. Voting will end Sunday at 12:00 CST. Please provide your answer with a mere name on the first line, and if you choose to elaborate, do so after making your pick. Thank you.

Choose the wrestler who you think belongs more in a tournament of the greatest of the promotion from 1985 to 2005. Please do not factor their work in other companies into your decision. Voting will end Sunday at 12:00 CST. Please provide your answer with a mere name on the first line, and if you choose to elaborate, do so after making your pick. Thank you.

Choose the wrestler who you think belongs more in a tournament of the greatest of the promotion from 1985 to 2005. Please do not factor their work in other companies into your decision. Voting will end Sunday at 12:00 CST. Please provide your answer with a mere name on the first line, and if you choose to elaborate, do so after making your pick. Thank you.

Choose the wrestler who you think belongs more in a tournament of the greatest of the promotion from 1985 to 2005. Please do not factor their work in other companies into your decision. Voting will end Sunday at 12:00 CST. Please provide your answer with a mere name on the first line, and if you choose to elaborate, do so after making your pick. Thank you.

(Unfortunately, the poll option isn't going to work since we have no way to see who voted, so Coffey is going to end up getting his way.) Choose the wrestler who you think belongs more in a tournament of the greatest of the promotion from 1985 to 2005. Please do not factor their work in other companies into your decision. Voting will end Sunday at 12:00 CST. Please provide your answer with a mere name on the first line, and if you choose to elaborate, do so after making your pick. Thank you.

Steve Austin v Brian Pillman - 11/10/93 (WCW) It's the Battle of the Blondes! I put an exclamation point on that sentence, which would normally imply excitement over that, but I was a huge fan of the team at the time, and was actually disappointed over the breakup. Jesse Ventura echoed my sentiments nicely in this match, saying it broke his heart to see it happen and he wished they could just shake hands and forget about it all. That wasn't to be, as they immediately went into a brawl. Pillman chased manager Col. Rob Parker around the ring, which gave Austin an opening to sneak in a clothesline and toss Pillman back in the ring. He realizes he's in trouble so he offer…

Ricky Steamboat & Dustin Rhodes v Arn Anderson & Larry Zbyszko - 11/17/91 (WCW) The setup to this match was pretty cool, actually. Dustin Rhodes and tag team partner Barry Windham were arriving to Halloween Havoc just three weeks before this event when the Enforcers would attack Windham, and break his hand by smashing a car door on it. The problem was that Windham and Rhodes were picking up a lot of momentum as a tag team and were scheduled to challenge Anderson and Zbyszko for the tag titles at this event, Clash XVII. It was unknown all the way up until match time if Barry would be able to compete or not. He comes out in street clothes along with Dustin Rhode…

Yoshihiro Taijiri v Psicosis - 08/20/00 (ECW) I have no problem saying it again ... Man, FUCK this crowd! Since when is it a sign of "respect" for a bunch of self-important fans to spend the duration of a match putting themselves over and finding ways to break kayfabe? Reactions like the ones here essentially make ECW a useless exercise overall, because the mutants refused to buy into anything the company was selling, they were dead set against suspending their disbelief, and their top priority seems to be coming up with creative chants, with swear words whenever possible, instead of letting the workers tell a story, reacting to it and *then* doing their pretentio…

Super Crazy v Yoshihiro Taijiri v Jerry Lynn - 11/07/99 (ECW) This is a little bit different than a WWE three-way, if only because it's contested under elimination rules, and therefore, the match is going to have two pinfalls. Unlike Van Dam/Bigelow, they actually wrestle a nice spotfest here, keep the flow going, keep the moves looking crisp and give us a nice variety of moves. It's a fun match -- not really a good match, but a fun one. It could have been better if Jerry Lynn could get a charisma transplant, as the other two are far easier to support, but Lynn is too busy doing "cradle" versions of every move to play to the crowd. He's easily the weakest participant …

Rob Van Dam v Bam Bam Bigelow - 04/04/98 (ECW) Joey Styles does a nice job of catching me up on the storyline here, which is that RVD has largely been in a position to do dirty work for Sabu, and what's expected of him here is to soften up Bam Bam Bigelow so Sabu can get the win at the upcoming pay-per-view. I'm thinking this match is going to be really good early on, since they seem like the types who would click well, and often, they do -- Bam Bam's stiff, high impact style is a nice contrast to RVD's high flying, and there are hints of chemistry. The problems start when they're lost between big moves. Early on, Van Dam tries a huracanrana, but Bigelow reverses it i…

From da Meltz: Details are still sketchy regarding the death of Chris Candito (Chris Candido) earlier today at the age of 33. There are conflicting reports regarding the cause of death, and the police in Matawan, NJ, where he lives, were not able to confirm his death. Candito suffered a broken leg on Sunday's Lockdown PPV from TNA, and underwent surgery on Monday. He appeared as a manager at the TV tapings Tuesday night before returning home. Candido was a prominent part of tomorrow's TNA Impact TV show, interfering and leading to The Naturals winning the NWA tag titles over Chris Harris & James Storm.

Because if you don't, you can't. BWAHAHAHAHA! You got until Friday (04/29). The reason I'm doing this is so the votes are fair. We don't want 86 members jumping in on one particular vote and not caring about the rest. It's the polling equivalent to Evolution doing a run-in to save HHH's title, and I'm BARRING THEM FROM RINGSIDE~!

Chris Jericho v 2 Cold Scorpio v Shane Douglas v Pit Bull II - 07/13/96 (ECW) Often times, matches are called great when they're merely good, so that's nothing new, but since when do absolutely horrible matches get called great? I wanted to like this one, because I'm a big fan of at least two of the participants, but I couldn't help but be disappointed for a variety of reasons. The match is a four-corners match, which does admittedly work better in some ways than a fatal four-way, if only because the wrestlers don't have to lay outside the ring for an extended amount of time selling something that wasn't really all that high-impact in the first place. This match is al…

Taking a shot at this... Cactus Jack vs. Tommy Dreamer October 28, 1995 This match ended up as one of the most famous matches in ECW history, for reasons I will discuss shortly. Cactus comes out first and cuts a promo berating the fans. Cactus was on his anti-hardcore roll at this point, informing the fans that if it was up to him he would rather sit home and watch "movies for guys who like movies." He then informs the fans that they better prepare themselves for the most boring match of their lives. The feud here is that Cactus Jack wants Tommy Dreamer to reject the ECW fans and join WCW, essentially not to make the same mistakes Cactus did in leaving. O…

Rey Misterio Jr v Psicosis - 09/16/95 (ECW) One more time ... Man, FUCK this crowd! Since when is it a sign of "respect" for a bunch of self-important fans to spend the duration of a match putting themselves over and finding ways to break kayfabe? Reactions like the ones here essentially make ECW a useless exercise overall, because the mutants refused to buy into anything the company was selling, they were dead set against suspending their disbelief, and their top priority seems to be coming up with creative chants, with swear words whenever possible, instead of letting the workers tell a story, reacting to it and *then* doing their pretentious applause, probably …

If you think someone should be turfed in favor of someone that isn't present here, state your case. These are not in any particular order. Also, please don't say "I can't believe you forgot so-and-so" until you know for sure they're not here. Just trying to preemptively avoid that. If there are enough debates over certain guys, we'll have qualifying matches. Hulk Hogan Bret Hart Shawn Michaels Steve Austin The Rock Chris Benoit Chris Jericho Randy Savage Eddy Guerrero Owen Hart Davey Boy Smith Ted DiBiase Rey Misterio Edge Christian Dynamite Kid Ultimate Warrior Ricky Steamboat Greg Valentine Bob Backlund Diesel Ra…

Riki Choshu, Akira Maeda, Tatsumi Fujinami, Kengo Kimura & Super Strong Machine v Antonio Inoki, Keiji Muto, Seji Sakaguchi, Osamu Kido & Yoshiaki Fujiwara - 08/20/87 (NJPW) This is elimination rules, and eliminations can come either by pinfall, submission or touching the floor. The touch-the-floor stipulation actually works against this match more than anything, because it seems to be a gimmick of convenience, a way Inoki, Maeda and Choshu can avoid doing jobs or putting anyone over. This is definitely the most action-packed heavyweight match I've ever seen; to put it in perspective, there were *26* tags before the first decision, which took place at about th…

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