2016

The time has finally arrived to begin voting. Please read the whole post before following the link to vote. Rules Deadline: WrestleMania 32 1) You can only vote for wrestlers and teams that have been nominated. The list of nominees are below in the two following posts. 2) Each wrestler or team can only appear once in your list. Please ensure that is true, as it will save the team lots of time compiling the results. 3) If you vote in the wrestlers list, the list has to contain 100 wrestlers. If you vote for the team list, the list has to contain 25 teams. You can skip either list. Helpful Voting Hints 1) Please copy the names from the lists below. Whe…

The list will be a nice locked thread, so people can read it later without all of the comments confusing it. Here will be a place to react and give comments. Unless everybody would rather comment in the list threads.. up to you folks.

No not Mack and Maff but the highly regarded guys that missed your list due to lack of viewing, footage, etc. I haven't seen a lot of footage on any of the World of Sport guys, decent Japan and small amount of lucha. The guys I'm excited to explore that didn't make my list because I've seen only a handful of their matches are El Hijo Del Santo Negro Casas Shinya Hashimoto Akira Taue Tatsumi Fujinami Yoshiaki Fujiwara Jim Breaks Jun Akiyama El Satanico Riki Choshu Ron Garvin Billy Robinson Atlantis

I just noticed there is a lot of hoopla over Jerry Sags getting votes and Knobbs not... well I goofed. I think going down the list of nominees that didn't get votes, I saw Jerry Stubbs and read it too quickly and deleted Jaggs. JERRY SAGGS RECEIVED NO VOTES. I apologize for this mistake and I hope everyone can breath easier now.

There was a total of 152 voters! 151 voted for the GWE. 54 voted for the tag teams section. 567 different wrestlers got votes for the GWE. 7.94% of voters participated in 2006 Smarkschoice poll. 14.7% started watching wrestling pre 1985 56.7% started watching wrestling between 1985 and 1994 21.3% started watching wrestling between 1995 and 2004 7.3% started watching wrestling post 2004 99.3% considered Mainstream American Wrestling (WWF/WWE, WCW, etc..) 93.2% considered Mainstream Japanese Wrestling (AJPW, NJPW, etc...) 63.3% considered Japanese Indies (DDT, WAR, etc...) 95.2% considered Old School Territories (Mid South, Memphis, etc...) 59.9%…

With the ending of the GWE project coinciding with the ending of the WWE Diva's division, the recent return of Maryse, my personal all time favorite Diva, I thought to myself how perfect would it be to now start the Greatest Diva Ever project. A WWE Diva much different that a female wrestler is meant to represent strength, power, beauty, independence, athleticism, nobility, and majesty without actually being anything of those things in any substantive way a hollow facade built to the specifications of a radically sheltered egomaniac's standard for femininity. They lack any true sense of moral compass driven to erratic decisions based on self-centered cattiness. They w…

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I turned mine in tonight! I'm afraid I'll accidentally spill the beans on something, so I'm not going to post in any nominees' threads from here forward.

So I really want to give the giants of 80s Joshi a chance if nothing else. I have no clue what is online and what isn't. But if people can point me to the top matches and performances of Asuka, Jaguar, Nagayo, Sato, et. do it now. I will consider giving time to Joshi from the 90s or current era as well, but the 80's is more of a hole for me because I haven't watched any of that in a decade or longer.

He's billed as an all-time great by the WWE. People point to a good run in 2000. He's had more opportunities to have big time matches than almost everyone. Is he making it for you?

Out of guys not making your ballot, who would have the best 10 match or so greatest hits album, maybe not a guy with a long great career but some huge highs. Couple of guys I was thinking of. Steve Corino A lot of his career he was coasting on shtick, but if you look at his top matches you have some truly awesome stuff. His pair of Homicide matches in ROH (Better friends, stiffer enemies is maybe my favorite ROH match ever), the incredible Hashimoto/Corino/Knight/Steele 4-way, Tajiri ECW match. I just am not sure I can rate a guy with 8 or so classics and so much chaff Mil Muertes After last nights match, we are looking at four Lucha Underground classi…

I've seen a few posts where people don't feel qualified to submit a ballot. They haven't seen this style or that era and feel like they would be doing the process an injustice. To those people, if you have been engaged in this process at all, if you are watching footage, then please put in a ballot As we have seen from the WON HOF threads, that even people who are supposed to be experts are putting out lists that get questioned. If you don't have lucha, puro, shoot style, whatever it's all good. Someone else will not have your favourites on their list too. This list is not supposed to be definitive. It is not supposed to be an all-time list that we look back at fo…

I believe that the change is more important the destination in this progress. How we have changed because the additional footage we have watched over the course of the year and how we view that footage and how are beliefs change are the real values of the project. The "ultimate" list that this produces will be static and representative of a time period. Pro wrestling is dynamic. One of the many reasons I love pro wrestling is that it never ends. So how can any list produced about a dynamic form of entertainment ever be considered final. Thus a static list measuring a dynamic quantity is on its own useless unless there are static lists that document the changes in time. …

Let's get our own version of a March Madness pool going by predicting the top 10 of the GWE poll. Remember: this thread is for predicting the top 10, not revealing our own top 10 or making cases about who we personally think should be in the top 10. What fun is a pool without a prize? I've got $10 for the person who guesses the top 10, in order. The only caveat is you have to spend it on something wrestling-related. I don't want my money supporting your porn or weed addiction, only your wrestling addiction. In addition to your top 10, include a guess on where you think Ted DiBiase will finish. We'll use whoever guesses closest to DiBiase's actual finishing slot to…

We've been working so hard on this for years now and especially focusing on matches through a very specific lens. There is a sense of "eating your vegetables" that I think people are expressing to some degree, and of boxing wrestlers in to one set of criteria or another just so that we can make a list. As ambitious and enjoyable as this process has been and even though it's opened a lot of us up to wrestling we wouldn't normally watch, or that we might not have watched in such a crash-course manner, I think most of us don't entirely find the ideal wrestling viewing one where we're constantly keeping a top 100 list in mind. So I'm asking what's next for people? We've …

This came up in the Super Dragon thread, both guys are similar. Pretty unique style, great brawlers, one of kind aura. How do folks see placing them?

Because of college basketball season, I wanted to know who is on everybody's bubble? Personally for me right now- Last 4 in- Brody, CM Punk, MiSu, AJ Styles Last 4 out- Dick Murdoch, Dutch, Slaughter, Yuki Ishikawa, Next 4 out- Martel, HHH, Samaya, Takada

When the ballots are all submitted, can you provide a list of the guys who ended up as #100 on the ballots? Just curious who people used as their cut off guy.

I was talking to Childs about this before the Drive By-Truckers show last night. What locker room one what date has the most people on your list. 1997 WCW, 1989 Crockett, 2003 ROH? ect.

Just in case there is a tie in points, what should we do? There is none right now, but some spots are very close. Including the number one spot. Figured this should be up for discussion.

So. I don't know what to do about Jumbo Tsuruta. Let me start by saying this - I do think he was a great wrestler. He has lots of great matches, and a long stretch of time when he was at minimum a good worker, and often times great. I can't really argue against the idea that he's one of the 100 best wrestlers of all time...kind of. I say kind of, because I have an extreme visceral hatred for the idea of watching Jumbo Tsuruta wrestle. It's a weird thing because I often come away with positive views of the matches. Still I find him to be a horribly alienating and even disengaging performer. This is not entirely new. I have watched a lot of Jumbo in the …

I was talking to Dylan and Grimmas last night and we decided to make the month of April an event here at PWO. So rather than just a dry countdown of where everyone ranked, expect the trek to number one to be just as fun as the discussion threads themselves. Look for plenty of podcasts, columns, roundtables and possible other features focusing on the Greatest Wrestler Ever project, along with a countdown that is sure to keep everyone on their toes. We'd love to hear from anyone who has a unique perspective on the nature of the project overall, or on hardcore wrestling fandom. For my part, I'll be writing about how Dr. Strangeloss learned to stop worrying and love the …

They are almost certainly the two best wrestlers of the past 16 years. They are also perhaps the only 2 babyfaces in WWE in the last decade who have been loved and cheered across all demographics. Their biggest runs came as underdog scrappy babyfaces. Bryan has the advantage of being a very good and very over heel over Rey, but Rey was such a defining, transcendental babyface that it almost doesn't matter. For me, it is really tough. I rate the best Bryan matches above best Rey matches, but Rey delivered more consistent good quality matches. There was a 2-3 year span where he was actually having multiple good TV matches every week, and which still hold up, something w…

Perhaps the two greatest in ring heels. I'm having so much trouble figuring this one out.

This raises an interesting point. We've been having discussions about this stuff for a year and a half now and I want the results to represent that and the varied opinions of people from PWO. Maybe others would disagree, but I don't like the idea of a bunch of people who have had nothing to do with the process showing up and submitting ballots in the last month of the project. As Loss has said in the past, PWO is not a monolith and people here have wildly differing opinions but they will have discussions and explain their points of view. I don't think we should be picky and choosy or elitist about who is allowed to vote or post here, but this deep into the project I don't…