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Lesnar vs. Mir II drew 1,600,000 buys Wrestlemania 28 drew 1,217,000 buys Mayweather vs. De La Hoya drew 2,400,000 buys The three biggest drawing PPV events in the history of MMA, Pro Wrestling, and Boxing. Boxing clearly wins in popularity, having broken the 2 million buys threshold on more than one occasion. So what do professional wrestling and MMA need to do to outdraw Mayweather? "Champion vs. Champion" "WWE vs. UFC" "The Rematch Of The Century" "WWE World Heavyweight Champion" Brock Lesnar vs. "UFC World Heavyweight Champion" Cain Velasquez - Co-Promoted by WWE and UFC (which immediately puts this ever happening to bed) - The contest itself …

A match I haven't seen mentioned that I absolutely love is his match against Low Ki in ECWA with Ricky Steamboat as the special ref. I enjoyed the way it was worked & its my favourite match for Danielson until his WWE run.

5. Edge Edge might struggle to get into the WON Hall of Fame, but in the Wrestling Chin HoF he's a slam dunk. However, as with so many aspects of Edge, it's a bit overrated. I mean, it's not THAT big. He's not really in contention for #1. 4. Jay Leno His wrestling career might have been short-lived, but Leno's ample chin played a significant role in the storytelling of that match at Road Wild 98. The way Leno works his chin into the body of the match demonstrated greater psychology than we've ever seen from Edge's chin. 3. The Great Khali A magnificent specimen. Khali's chin is defined by its manliness. 2. Sgt. Slaughter …

So, for our podcast this week the subject for discussion is looking at the wrestling landscape in 1992, and the good, bad and ugly elements that comprised it, a fun way to do a year in review, and I figure this will be especially good here with the yearbooks breaking down different stuff. The idea being that out of everything that happened on a worldwide basis in this year, what ONE thing epitomises each for you personally (if you had to choose a match, promo, angle, feud, theme or company that summed each up), and why? For example, if we were talking 93, we could say: The Good - Kobashi Vs. Hansen matches The Bad - Hogan plunger raping Bret at Mania IX The Ugly - Bi…

He's one of my favourites, but I dont know that much about him at all. Where can I find some reliable and detailed information about his early years, baseball carreer, beginnings in his father promotion, details about his feud with Jerry Lawler and other major things before he joined WWF, some interesting behind the scenes stories from his WWF and WCW run and more. Unfortunately, he never wrote a book nor did some sort of shoot interview. Any help will be greatly appreciated!

I thought this would be something cool to start doing at the end of each month so that it's easy for people who want to go back and catch up on anything they've missed. I'll edit this first post with everyone's picks a week from now, but basically, what would you consider your Tier 1, Tier 2 and Tier 3 picks for wrestling this month? If there's a dispute over where something falls, I'll put that to the group as a whole to debate. Tier 1 - MOTYCs/All-time classics Tier 2 - Great matches that aren't quite MOTYC level but are still fantastic Tier 3 - Good/solid/fun/otherwise worth watching for various reasons Etc. - Memorable angles or promos Tier 1 Tier …

Can a guy who is almost exclusively a great brawler do well on your list, or do you need some good traditional wrestling matches to go with it? For guys who have mostly traditional wrestling matches with a slow build to a hot finishing stretch on their resume, do you need a great brawl? If someone's peak is focused within a very narrow style, do you need something that shows they can step outside of their comfort zone too? I'm just curious what everyone values. For me, I need anyone I'm voting for to have at least one longish main event epic to their name in order to be considered. It's hardly the only factor, but it's hard for me to consider someone great until they …

Not sure if this is the right forum for this, but Jim "clawmaster" Zordani passed away late Friday night/Saturday morning. I believe he posted here as claw64, and besides being the go-to guy for results of seemingly every wrestler ever, he was a fun guy to interact with online.

Real talk, playing hide and seek with an imaginary foreign object is the dumbest shit ever.

Dear colleagues, Call for contributors for an essay collection on professional wrestling and performance, edited by Broderick Chow (Brunel University), Eero Laine (The Graduate Center, City University of New York), and Claire Warden (University of Lincoln). Scholars in many fields (notably, anthropology, sociology, sports studies, and media studies) have taken up professional wrestling as a field of inquiry. However, the form has generally only been acknowledged as performance in a rather broad sense, either reading it through a myriad of forms and genres (from the medieval morality play to an outworking of Artauds Theatre of Cruelty) or simply noting its theatr…

Okay, I'm working on a couple of columns for the magazine I write for, The Tag Rope. One I already have pretty much laid out, why I think the WON HoF is pointless, but the other I was hoping to get some talking points from the board for. Essentially I'm going to be looking at workrate. It's evolution as I've been watching wrestling, why it mattered, does it matter as much today, what does it even mean, what are the other factors in defining quality wrestling, etc.? So, here's some of the questions I'd like some feedback on (and not to single anyone out but I'd really love responses from guys like Charles, Dylan, Matt (especially you), Parv, Ohtani, the Voices of Wrestlin…

Discussion of the European candidates each year seems to begin and end with Big Daddy, but since some of the posters here have ballots, I thought I would break down the candidates one wrestler at a time. Jim Breaks Pros: * Considered to be one of the all-time greats in both the lightweight and welterweight divisions * Career spanned four decades from the early 50s to the early 90s * Viewed as one of the new style lightweights who changed the way lightweight matches were worked * Was on television almost 150 times * Featured prominently on the first two Wembley Arena shows, four times on Cup Final Day and more than twenty Royal Albert Hall shows * Had a n…

So for this weeks podcast, we're going to broach the subject of the best Pay-Per-View of all time, with the caveat of eliminating WrestleManias from the discussion, which should make for some interesting choices. No limit to promotion or timeframe, so long as it was on PPV - in your opinion, what do you feel is the best Non-Mania PPV of all time, and more importantly, why? As always I'll be reading the feedback on the show and discussing your choices, but it'll be fun to see what gets people's picks and for what reasons, and see what debate flares up when judging one great show against another...

How did this work? I'm watching a match from late '98 involving Silver King and the Villanos in CMLL. But they were also working in WCW at the time, with Silver King in Eddy Guerrero's LWO. But I thought WCW worked with AAA. But then the WWF started working with AAA in early 1997, which adds confusion. Did something change? Is there anywhere that has a good rundown of how all of this worked? And what was Konnan's role in procuring talent?

Given all the verbatim JBL was spouting about Henry's accomplishments last night, I've become somewhat curious as to other ludcrously strong wrestlers. Not tough, we all have the stories of fights, but actual wrestlers who had some kind of stint Powerlifting or Weightlifting or who are even just freakishly strong and have a reputation for it? Henry could potentially "truly" be regarded as the World's Strongest Man, as his records still stand today, and what's more, they are drug tested too - he's un-enhanced, a "natural human being". True, that title can be pretty meaningless, since passing drug tests are as much about who you know and how clever you are as how clean …

Holy Shit Bryan is an awesome heel on Total Divas. Trying to convince Nikki she would get mercury poison from eating salmon and then taunting her with baby booties to rub it in that Cena never wants to get married or have kids. Like Fandango he is probably better on the mic on this show then on the main ones

They went 8-90 as a team, with all 8 wins coming on house shows or dark matches at TV. All of the house show wins were on small spot shows. None of the big city house shows like MSG, Spectrum, Boston Gardens, etc that sometimes aired on local TV, except for this one from Maple Leaf Gardens, 1/10/88: http://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=44003 Does anybody know if that show aired? If not, and if none of the dark matches were taped or house show matches were bootlegged, then there is likely no video evidence of a Conquistador victory.

John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar Randy Orton vs. Chris Jericho Miz vs. Dolph Ziggler Sheamus vs. Cesaro Goldust & Stardust vs. Usos Rusev vs. Mark Henry Paige vs. Nikki Bella vs. AJ Lee With Reigns vs. Rollins off the show, I guess they are going to throw in a Sandow match or something. Still looks like it could be a good show on paper.

And vice versa. I was listening to the Austin Podcast with Regal and he talked a lot about what he liked in wrestling and it got me thinking especially since Regal always champions a number of Indy jerks that I wouldn't want to watch if you paid me. A few notes: - Steamboat/Savage. Austin brought it up and Regal said he liked it right until he spoke to Steamboat and then they sort of moved on without going into detail but it has to be the script right? - Cardio. One thing that Regal brought up was how much Flair's cardio mattered to him. This is one reason that I've heard Flair, in the past, praise Brody. - Energy/Effort: He said at one point that he'd like a…

I've had this conversation with a few people. Everyone is of course entitled to make their ballot however they want, but I am trying to step outside of myself a little bit and not just list wrestlers in the order that I enjoy watching them. I think greatness encompasses something more than just what I like. If someone is great in the ring, whether I personally enjoy them or not, they should get a spot on my list. How does everyone else feel about this? Can anyone else point to admittedly great wrestlers that they just don't like?

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I figured I'd start a topic about this event. The lineup: Bull Dempsey vs. Mojo Rawley Enzo Amore vs. Sylvester Lefort [Hair vs. Hair Match] The Ascension (champions) vs. Lucha Dragons (Kalisto and Sin Cara) [NXT Tag-Team Championship Match] Charlotte (champion) vs. Bayley [NXT Women's Championship Match] Adrian Neville (champion) vs. Sami Zayn vs. Tyler Breeze vs. Tyson Kid [Fatal 4-Way match for the NXT Championship] I think this is gonna be a fun show. I'm curious to see what we get out of the main event that we haven't seen from those 4 before.

http://www.prowrestling.net/article.php?Former-WWE-and-WCW-wrestler-Sean-O-Haire-dead-at-age-43-38824 didn't realize he was in his 40s. Tapped to be a future star at the beginning of the last decade but could never put it together RIP

There's probably a better way to phrase it, but what do you think of routines between two opponents? When I first started thinking about match quality, I would try to rationalize Michaels and Bulldog doing the eyepoke-hurracanrana and short-arm scissors spots in a lot of their matches together. They were fun sequences, but Michaels pretty much never used the short-arm scissors, except for when he was wrestling a guy who reversed it every single time it was put on him - you'd think he'd realize that it wasn't an effective strategy. I don't know why this kind of thing doesn't bother me anymore. I remember watching an Atlantis-Emilio Charles Jr. match a year or so ag…

Phew, bit of a mouthful there! I've been reading a lot of Anti-attitude era sentiment on here lately. Or, if not anti-Attitude, at least you-had-to-be-there-Attitude. If I'm correct in saying Attitude era at it's worst is accepted as 1998-99, how does Austin hold up as an all time great? I ask because I never see Austin's standing diminished due to this timespan - did he do enough before and after to avoid falling in people's eyes? Also, what about Undertaker, Rock and Foley? I could understand Undertaker having enough afterwards to remain in people's good graces, but the other two?