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Well it'd be pretty hard to go over board in ragging on Matt Striker. Even Taz & Todd Grisham were making jokes about having to work with Striker on Taz's podcast.

That footage is from after Dory Sr.'s death. It's from after the sons sold it to Dick Murdoch & Blackjack Mulligan. I think Gary Hart wrote that no one would have been able to keep the territory going because the territory had indoctrinated everyone on the Funks to the point where no one else could draw on top there and the Funks weren't going to be staying in Amarillo on a full time basis.

For a UFC fighter of that time to receive 500K guaranteed per fight WAS a huge guarantee deal. Especially when you go back and look at payouts for the events he was on.

I don't understand why guys do spots like that anyway. The more times you do the same strike in a row the less impact it has, whether it be chop, forearm, headbutt, whatever.

I think that criticism about Sarge only holds up about he left the WWF in 1984. That's when he was at the peak of his stardom, making a lot of GI Joe money outside of wrestling and seemed to take a lot of nights off.

I love watching him every time I see him pop up somewhere but he's a tough guy to argue for a list like this.

This isn't really that uncommon. Let's say Wahoo McDaniel was in Georgia and getting ready to come to Southwest Championship, then it wouldn't be that uncommon to see a taped interview with Wahoo & Gordon Solie air on Southwest TV to hype his arrival. This happened with pretty much all the territories, including WWF even though they weren't "officially" in the NWA. This is definitely not the only time Vince would help make a promo video for Portland as I've also seen Vince doing an interview with Curt Hennig to hype Curt's return to Portland to fight Buddy Rose. I'm not sure if fans of PNW would have really looked at it this way in 1982. WWF was just another territory, even if it happened to be the one with the largest population base.

Ditto for me. I love battle royals. I don't get the whole "Battle royals suck" meme. No I haven't ever seen one that was 5 STAR MATCH~! but I have seen a lot of fun ones.

Sites like 411 are popular because #1 it's free. And #2 you only have to check one place instead of checking 2 or 3. Most people don't care where the news is from but that also leads to problems like people acting like every story is equally "true."

That's not actually true, I remember there being stories about TNA being behind on pay in the past with the big caveat "it includes EVERYONE and yes that means Hogan" I believe this is after they bled all that money trying to recreate the Monday Night Wars and run live against Raw.

I think everyone seriously underestimated just how much Spike TV's money was propping them up.

I can't believe they are making my guy a jobber because he lost to someone higher on the card!

I don't know if I really buy that he worked safer in the indies just because he didn't necessarily do a dive or a diving headbutt in all of them. Some of the stuff with headbutts that he and Nigel did were REALLY stupid. I am pretty sure he said he lost count of how many concussions he had on the indies. I also seem to remember there being talk way before he even signed with WWE about him being beat up and wanting to stop wrestling and do Greenpeace while he was still healthy.

Good deal. What thread exactly? I love to read others perspective on Memphis. Would love to see it. I don't remember where I made the statement about them being the biggest ass kickers of "ladies men" tag teams. I did talk them up in their thread in the tag teams section of the GWE project. Maybe not the exact thread, but I know this discussion definitely came up during the DVDVR '80s Memphis set. I what triggered it most was that fancam cage match where the Fabulous Ones just destroy the hell out of the Sheepherders. Two of the most bloodthirsty wrestlers on the planet in the Sheepherders just getting decimated and left for dead by the local "ladies men". Didn't a referee get thrown over the top of the cage when he tried to stop the beating too? Yes! That match is so fucking awesome. The wars with The Moondogs had a lot to do with it too.

The current trend of thinking whatever guy you like is automatically main event caliber talent and should be in the title hunt/the champion. I just lurked too far out of the PWO zone and found a board with a size-able contingent talking about how Damien Sandow should be a main event guy. I mean I understand the Mizdow thing got over but just because a guy is getting great reactions in the midcard doesn't mean he can be in the main event. I have really enjoyed some WWE midcard acts over the years like Santino, The Hurricane, Jimmy Wang Yang, Colin Delaney, Festus, hell I even really liked The Boogeyman and at times probably argued "they should be doing more with this guy" for all of them but that doesn't mean "this guy should be in the main event." I know everyone wants to parrot Steve Austin's "if you don't want to main event WrestleMania you don't belong here" line but there's nothing wrong with being a popular midcard act. Especially if you can make some nice merchandise checks.

If it IS the nerve issue then there really isn't anything WWE could or should have done differently. I know in the rush to somehow bash WWE for this a lot of people are saying they rushed his return, but Bryan himself said that when he went to WWE and said he was ready to come back they put him through a whole litany of tests before clearing him. We don't know what's causing the nerve problem so you can't just assume "oh well he should have had the spinal fusion like Austin/Edge" because there's no telling. Carson Palmer spent a large portion of large season lingering between "he could play next week if the nerve wakes up/he might never play again because we don't know if the nerve will wake up" and I guarantee he had better medical attention and saw more doctors than Daniel Bryan.

Good deal. What thread exactly? I love to read others perspective on Memphis. Would love to see it. I don't remember where I made the statement about them being the biggest ass kickers of "ladies men" tag teams. I did talk them up in their thread in the tag teams section of the GWE project.

There was a large "he should just retire!" crowd on the initial injury so I expect even more of it this time around. As a notoriously fickle person even I don't understand the extreme shifts from "he should win the Rumble and main event WrestleMania!" to "he should retire because he's injured!"

Memphis would sometimes use music that you would just think "really?" but end up making a good video out of it.

I understand that The Fabs came off as ass kickers, I've wrote that about them on this very board. They were a "prototype" that was never truly copied because the RNR Express, The Fantastics, The Hardys, all those kinds of tag teams that were supposed to draw the female audience never came off as ass kickers the way Stan & Steve did. But that still doesn't mean their videos aren't in the words of Jim Cornette "gay as shit."

Every Fabulous Ones video I see makes it harder for me to understand why the male fans gave Jeff Jarrett so much shit over that poster. I mean, they should have been used to that stuff.

I don't think it's because he cares about whether he loses or not. But if you're going to pay a dude around $1 million per match you'd better get all the fucking value out of him that you can, thus he shouldn't really be losing a whole lot.

I don't generally like TV shows or movies better on rewatch either though. Usually it has to be something I didn't like that much to begin for me to like it better on a second go around.

I haven't really seen enough of either in their prime to judge, but I definitely believe that Ron was better with his money than Robert was. Ron even managed to get out of losing operations like Continental & USA Championship with plenty of money in his pocket and was retired from wrestling for good by the end of 1989, outside of a few shows he promoted in the late 90s. Robert wrestled pretty much everywhere after Continental died off, working Memphis, Dallas, the George Scott NAWA/SAWA thing, SMW, probably more I'm forgetting before landing in WCW as Colonel Parker.