Everything posted by goc
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
There most definitely are fans who expect people in WWE to look jacked up, or at least bigger than normal. I think it's a big reason why CM Punk hasn't been much of a ratings draw, and especially while paired with Daniel Bryan.
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Dave Meltzer stuff
This is not a myth, where else were all those buys coming from that weren't there for other UFC PPVS? The curiosity factor is seeing how a guy from a "fake sport" will do in a real one. There is no counter appeal to him returning back to WWE. MMA fans whose first exposure to him was in UFC aren't going to suddenly become wrestling fans to see what Brock Lesnar is up to. And the wrestling fans have already quit buying WWE PPVs outside of Mania and Rumble for the most part. I would have bought the Mir/Brock fight had my cable company not been a incompetent that night. Bought the Heath Herring fight at my apt, went to a friend's house who bought the Couture fight, bought Lesnar/Mir 2. And haven't bought another UFC PPV since. So yes Brock did get people who otherwise would not have bought UFC PPVs to buy them.
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Dave Meltzer stuff
I had said from the beginning of this whole thing that while I was personally happy to see Brock back because I'm a huge fan, I couldn't see how they would make money off him if they were really paying him $5 million. Didn't think there was any way he'd move the buyrate more than adding around 50,000 buys. His UFC appeal was being the pro wrestler in real fighting, there's no reason for that audience to follow him back to WWE.
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Ric Flair (sigh)
I have no idea how he lasted after the European tour incident. He's brought absolutely nothing to the table.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
LINEBACKER'S COURT Not only do they both have serious issues with concussions, pro football and pro wrestling both have the same idiotic jock/frat culture. I take this story as just more evidence that Ryan Leaf wasn't emotionally or mentally capable of being a starting QB in the NFL, not really anything against the players. When you have a job that is physically and emotionally demanding, you do things like that to rookies to test them out and see if they can really handle it. Obviously from that story and all the other things Ryan Leaf did before his football career ended, he couldn't handle it.
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Over the Limit
I almost just want them to do heavily piped in Ryback chants as kind of a "fuck you too then"
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
PWDiary did a pretty good shoot with Nelson Frazier/Big Daddy V/Viscera/Mable. They have only did 5 shoots though and seem to be out of business.
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Fake It So Real
I recommend everyone watch Fake It So Real. My favorite part is where they talk to a guy who wants to train with them. It's full of great lines but the best is at the end where the main guy interviewing him says "It's a respect thing that we want. Respect out ring because...in a better world this is where we'd make our living."
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WWF Ongoing Thread
That's retarded. Why the hell would you want the announcer to say "I think we're about to see Jericho DDT X-Pac here since we just heard him call that spot" Sorry that shit only works for JCW
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Derivative Gimmicks
There was an amusing incident in TNA where it breaks during his entrance and he has to try and play it off like he was never carrying it.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Does anyone know what happened with the Jeff Katz Wrestling Retribution Project? I know that they filmed enough for what was supposed to be the first "season" of 13 episodes, but that was back in October and I've never heard of it being released.
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Vince Russo
I guess we can check "Fire Vince Russo" off the "OMG DO THIS AND TNA WILL SUDDENLY BE GREAT!" list. I just look at TNA as a roster full of old guys without much(or anything) left, guys who COULD have been stars for TNA but got ruined by bad booking, and very few guys who still have potential to step up. Samoa Joe & AJ Styles could have been top guys in the company for years and years by now. Instead they killed Joe off when he was really hot, and he's been downhill from there. They've never seemed to know what to do with AJ, even when they recognized that they should be pushing him. But who is there on TNA's roster that you can look at as guys with potential to carry the company that haven't been ruined already? After Roode & Storm who is there? Magnus? That doesn't say much for Vince Russo, the guy who tried to say he was such a creator of stars in wrestling, that in all the years he booked TNA he didn't create a single one.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Guess that has been happening on Raw, I don't remember anything like that on Smackdown. Other than the couple of weeks Punk and Bryan were having champion vs champion matches.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Did I miss something where he would want to do that? I mean from a kayfabe standpoint if he were going to rig it for someone, wouldn't it have been The Miz?
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
It was nice to see Lawler vs Daniel Bryan although I have absolutely no idea why they booked Lawler to be in the Beat the Clock challenge. Maybe it was just an excuse to have Cole out there by himself and try and establish that he's not as much of a douche anymore.
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Dave Meltzer stuff
I don't really understand why they even have their creative staff. All their big stuff gets done by a very small group of people. It's obvious they don't trust the creative team with the really big stuff. Like does anyone even know who originally came up with the Nexus idea? I never heard that even get reported. And almost nobody knew that was going to happen before it did. Don't know why they just don't have those few people book, along with input from the talent themselves. But then I guess you wouldn't have anyone to come up backstage skits like Paul Bearer being stuffed into a freezer.
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Dave Meltzer stuff
I'm not believing any of the bullshit that is getting reported around the end of that match. There's been so many different reports, and a lot of them conflicting so I'm going to label it all bullshit and think that John Cena and Brock went backstage and told each other "hey man good match" then left and did their own thing. The end.
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Brock is back
Brock was booked strong, but not as strong as he should have been. He definitely was not as bad a victim of the even-steven booking that everyone after him has been. Brock leaving WWE was far worse for them mentally than it was business wise. Because it made them so fucking paranoid to push anyone new, that as soon as someone new got over they had to put them in some long ass holding position to "test" them first.
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Is TNA the worst wrestling promotion in history?
I don't think WWE or WCW ever had a match as stupid as the Reverse Battle Royal. Ok that's a decent concept for about 5 seconds until you realize that everyone looks fucking retarded fighting each other on the outside instead of just running to get into the ring. Especially when guys are fighting each other on the apron or obviously standing around waiting for someone to come fight them because they're not supposed to get in the ring yet. Totally deserve to win the Observer's "Worst Worked Match" award.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
He is. He's on the A-Tier, the Undertaker, HHH, John Cena, (formerly) Batista tier of star testing.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
In what way is it anyone's business other than Dwayne Johnson's?
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The WTF!?! Have they lost their minds?! thread
Watts should have realized that phantom knee incident was going to kill JYD, even if he thought having him lose to II would be ok. Maybe he should have tried to figure out a way to sell it like JYD was forced to take a dive.
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Tropes in pro-wrestling that you loathe
Well the old way was to punch a guy really hard in the eye brow and bust him open for real. So maybe that's the lesser of two evils but by how much?
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Rey's second wellness violation
If Rey came back totally clean off steroids and HGH they wouldn't put him on TV.