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But the point is that they're in the angle in the first place. They aren't happy with the numbers that guys are drawing on their own, so HHH feels he and HBK need to be a part of the angle to bring up the numbers...but they aren't really draws themselves anymore. It's the idea of squeezing an apple until the very last drop of juice comes out, but the apple has gone rotten in the meantime. Punk is an apt comparison due to how he and Bryan have been presented and pushed, but the problem is that WWE fucked THAT up, too. You have a truly hot angle and then get Trips and fucking Kevin Nash involved and it all goes to shit. I doubt the majority of that crap was on Punk. I go back to Trips looking at the SummerSlam buyrates between '11 and '12 and thinking he was the guy that popped 60k buys. The more HHH and company hang around the main event scene, the less time they give guys a chance to get over.

Kawada and Kobashi had Baba booking for them and hindsight has shown plenty of times that Kawada should have taken the belt at numerous points. But that's another thread for another time. It's not panic so much as it's booking that is done terribly. There are ways to build to someone winning a belt that are a lot better than a Dusty finish, a no contest and the latest chapter in HHH and HBK figuring out when to tell Steph that the baby is actually Shawn's, not hers. Everyone agrees that Bryan shouldn't have gotten the belt right back. It's just how they're going about it.

The first guy I thought of was Big E but it's too early for him. I think it's Punk.

this is the best typo but not really ever Trips + HBK. I'm not going back to edit that, though. That really is too hilarious.

If popping the numbers means the most, WWE needs to go to a seasonal type presentation where they do callbacks every three months to have their biggest stars from the past show up to pop numbers. The numbers being what they are, it's WWE brass putting it on Bryan because it's his first run on top and him not moving the needle as much as they need instead of them looking across at the other guy and realizing he hasn't drawn a dime in years. If anything, the numbers have shown that Bryan can draw more than Orton can. Trips saw the Summerslam 2012 numbers with him and Brock on top and thought that because he was there that he was the draw. He obviously knew that Brock was a draw, but because of that logic, he's thinking that Trips + HHH = buys. It did 60k more than Cena/Punk on top, and even after Punk won, he had to throw Nash into the mix. You have to let the kids swim without the parents at some point. The more they hang on in the short term, the more it hurts long term. Even Cena's drawing power is going away in a lot of ways. Then again, if WWE's plan is to have the brand draw more than any one individual performer (which is something I think they're actually trying to do akin to the NFL) then it's gonna get a lot worse before it gets better.

That doesn't have to do with being a publicly traded company, though. You book correctly, get people interested in the product, they're going to be buying the product whether it's a guy Daniel Bryan's size or a guy Great Khali's size or a guy John Cena's size on top. Using that logic, if there are that many people interested in Daniel Bryan, wouldn't it be beneficial to have him as someone who's constantly protected?

Bryan is one of the top merch guys in the company and is the most over guy in the company right now. From a "live crowd" perspective, I don't get this shit about him not being someone they can push. He organically got over on his own accord, really. It's classic WWE booking. If it's not a product of how they book the top of the card, they could give a fuck less. Orton hasn't been over in fucking years, yet he's the guy on top because Triple H can't keep his ass off TV. That's not booking to your strengths.

That's obvious but a fact the IWC don't care to admit to. WWE has always done its worst business with smaller guys on top. It's a relic of 80's culture. Some guy on WC flipped out when I claimed this, even after justification. I've talked to way too many casuals who see Punk and Bryan as inferiors due to size, especially Punk. It's not WWE's fault imo that as a business it gives the public what it wants. What's considered a bigger guy then? Cena's about 245 and 6'2" and that's about "average" in WWE-speak.

Worse than the last four months? Really?

That's not necessarily Bryan's fault. That's also the guy across from him.

Let's be perfectly clear about something: It doesn't fucking matter if Bryan gets a pinfall over Triple H. Period. There's no rub there. Trips thinks there's a rub, but there's no rub. Bryan organically got over and they used it as a way to keep their egos in check with this storyline. If the end result is Trips thinking, "What will really get him over is me dropping a fall to me!" that's the dumbest thing I can think of. I'm gonna be the first one to say it. You know what Bryan needs to do now? He needs to be the one that ends The Streak.

Shawn acting like a petulant child to HHH saying, "Let me do my job!" is pretty hilarious.

Oh FUCK that ending.

Oohhhh! I know! A HHH entrance in the same match!

Him being in this angle in the first place?

I'd be down for that. Or a Triple Threat between Backlund, Torito and Zeb where the winner gets a title shot against the Rhodes Brothers.

There's parts about the Divas matches that are getting tighter, but very few matches have good heat segments. Bob Backlund doing the PTP dance is a .gif waiting to happen.

Dutch is fucking killing them. Wow.

I don't know where they go with Heyman now. He can be the big blowhard for only so long without being a threat. Punk now becomes the big wild card now that this seems to have been blown off. If Bryan wins tonight, he's right there in the thick to be his first opponent.

Ambrose does seem like he's watering it down a bit to me. Awesome finishing maneuver but they booked themselves into a corner because they weren't gonna have Ambrose drop the belt without any build up.

BIG E~!

Aaaaannnnnd back to Tim McCarver and Joe Buck. I'm choosing Joe Buck and Tim McCarver over this bullshit for the next five minutes.

So...what was that?

I can't believe I saw that spot on a WWE PPV. God damn. Awesome stuff. Match was great, but outside of a couple spots, I don't know why the Usos were in the match.

I think he was screwed over with all the change in the Japanese wrestling scene when he made the switch to being a heavyweight. Considering the dearth of New Japan's heavyweights at the time, he actually could have had a good run there, especially considering Mutoh and Kojima were making their exodus. Plus, while Z1 was about doing a lot of dream matches with Hash, NJPW was still making a lot of money doing dream matches, and he could have had some run up top there. That being said, he was one of my favorite juniors of all time. His 1996 was incredible. Might have been Lyger's best opponent, too, and that's saying something.