Loss
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Dave has said in a read-between-the-lines type way that Benoit, Malenko and Chavo got rid of Eddy's steroids before notifying anyone that they found him. To a point where he said it was a surprise to him that steroids were found in the Benoit home because Benoit usually followed wrestling protocol. -
I think it worked when the territory days were in effect. To quote Cornette once again, usually the local heel would get cheered over the world champ, due to a "He may be an asshole, but he's our asshole" mindset.
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The idea Cornette always espoused behind heel versus heel being better than babyface versus babyface is that fans don't like seeing two babyfaces they like against each other because they have to pick one over the other. Heel vs heel works because fans believe some serious shit has gone down because these guys are not "supposed" to dislike each other. It's a bit of an outdated way of thinking at this point, but for Cornette's point of reference, the Horsemen/Midnights feud in 1988, it was probably true.
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I think what usually annoyed me was how angles involving machinery, automobiles and arrests were essentially no-sold. I remember angles like HHH getting the Undertaker arrested in the build to X-7 and Scott Hall smashing a cinderblock over Steve Austin's knee that seem like they would be pretty big deals on their own, but were already forgotten by the time the match took place.
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I remember Luger beating Misawa in their 900 number tournament, 88% to 12%, with comments from some guy in Cedar Rapids, IA about how Luger would destroy Misawa. I wasn't really watching Japanese wrestling at that point in my life, so it didn't bug me like it would have a few years later.
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I think that's the appropriate way to classify wrestling fans -- hardcore fans and casual fans.
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It also doesn't really matter nearly as much as it's being focused on. JDW did not say it's a non-issue, he instead suggested keeping it in proper perspective.
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Given that the term is often used condescendingly, if it feels "toolish" when you see it, it's having the desired effect, no? Meaning "Recently, the IWC has been in an uproar over HHH's antics" is a little toolish. It doesn't make me think of the people in this supposed IWC at tools, more that the person who uses it sounds like one.
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I put Tenryu's enzuigiri in the same category as Misawa adjusting his tights while laying on the mat selling and Flair applying the figure four to the wrong leg -- a small imperfection in an otherwise great wrestler, and one that doesn't really matter that much.
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Bruce is right. The term always felt a little toolish to me too.
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I agree with this. I always thought Shawn was an excellent tag wrestler.
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The visual of Vader coming out of his grave is pretty memorable. But aside from that, this match doesn't really hold up well, even if it looked really good at the time. Regal/Davey Boy and Rude/Flair both had more heat, and there is quite a bit of downtime and some contrived setup for some of the spots and the ending was sort of botched. It's brutal and they both worked hard, so it's not entirely bad, but it's not a classic match.
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Last few minutes, and finally, this disappointing feud is coming to a close. Flair does a Rude Awakening!!! Terry Taylor was a special second ref as part of the buildup, which is stupidly negated when he takes a bump almost immediately after entering the match. I always thought that was so annoying, that Taylor, a wrestler, would sell an accidental bump that long. Rude hangs on to the title and tries to hang on to Fifi, but Flair stops him.
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Cactus Jack does the final hard sell for Halloween Havoc. He explains that all the potential matches that could happen as a result of Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal are dear friends -- Falls Count Anywhere, Barbed Wire match. This is a good promo destroyed by WCW production of him spinning the wheel in slow motion with ominous music playing.
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