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[1993-10-02-WWF-Superstars] Face to Face: Bret Hart and Jerry Lawler
Joe Fowler is the announcer here. I don't recall ever seeing him before or after this. Bret and Lawler both bring the goods. I don't know that he has the rep for it, but Bret is one of the best interviews in wrestling at this point.
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[1993-10-02-WWF-Superstars] Update: Shawn Michaels suspended, Battle Royal for the vacant IC title
Shawn Michaels has been suspended and stripped of the IC title for failing to appear for a number of title defenses. All these years later, I'm still not entirely sure what happened between Shawn and the WWF during this time. They announce that there will be a battle royal on Raw, with the two last men wrestling in a singles match the following week. And so begins the Wrestlemania X build, although I don't think that was the idea at the time.
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[1993-10-02-AJPW-October Giant Series] Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi vs Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue & Masa Fuchi
Kikuchi takes an incredible beating in this match. The bodyslam from Kawada off the apron to the floor is insane. Fuchi also finds new and interesting ways to torture him, including the most ridiculous camel clutch in the history of mankind. But the highlight of this is Kawada and Kobashi beating the shit out of each other at every opportunity. Their match later in October is at this point the most anticipated of the matches I have left, as they've really built quite the rivalry just through brief exchanges in tags and six-mans since Kawada switched sides. One other thing worth noting is that you can track Taue's growth in 1993. It shows in this match. He clicked with Kawada from the beginning, probably because they worked together so many times. And he and Misawa had really strong matches, but with Misawa carrying him. Here, in the Taue exchanges, he seems more confident working with Misawa than earlier in the year. And while Misawa is still leading, Taue feels like he's contributing much more than he was then. In terms of AJ six-mans, this is one of the better ones on the set, on par with 7/2 and probably just below 6/3. Great match!
- [1993-10-01-WAR] Masa Chono & Shinya Hashimoto vs Genichiro Tenryu & Ashura Hara
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Matches of the Month
September 1993: #1 - Rick & Scott Steiner vs The Quebecers (WWF Monday Night RAW 09/13/93) **** #2 - Steve Williams vs Mitsuharu Misawa (AJPW 09/03/93) **** #3 - Genichiro Tenryu vs Hiroshi Hase (NJPW 09/23/93) ***3/4 #4 - Villano III vs Rambo (AAA 09/24/93) ***3/4 #5 - Genichiro Tenryu vs Masa Chono (WAR 09/12/93) ***3/4 #6 - Yoshihiro Takayama vs Hiromitsu Kanehara (UWFI 09/05/93) ***1/2 #7 - Shinya Hashimoto vs Great Muta (NJPW 09/20/93) ***1/2 #8 - Bart Vale vs Joe Malenko (PWFG 09/23/93) ***1/2 #9 - 1-2-3 Kid vs Marty Jannetty (WWF All American Wrestling 09/12/93) ***1/4 #10 - Hiroshi Hase vs Shinya Hashimoto (NJPW 09/26/93) *** Quiet month.
- [1993-09-28-ECW-TV] Interview: Kevin Sullivan & Woman
- [1993-09-28-ECW-TV] Public Enemy vs The Headhunters feud highlights
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[1993-09-28-Michinoku Pro] Great Sasuke & Atsushi Onita vs Jinsei Shinzaki & Mr Pogo
One of those early Michinoku Pro brawls before they had completely shaken their death match roots. Shinzaki and Sasuke spend a lot of time hugging in the crowd and fighting with barbed wire and Pogo spends a lot of time stabbing Onita with a pointed stick. There is some good action with Sasuke and Shinzaki. You can call the sequences a mile away, but they were new at the time. The highlight of the match is the ever-awesome Super Delphin's run-in, catching Sasuke with a forearm out of nowhere and working with the heels to put the boots to both guys. 10 minutes of chaos.
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[1993-09-27-WWF-Raw] WWF commercial
A toddler is crying and ends up finding a remote and places the TV on WWF programming. Then, she starts smiling. We close with a bunch of blocks laid out to spell WWF UNBELIEVABLE.
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- [1993-09-26-NJPW-G1 Climax Special] Hiroshi Hase vs Shinya Hashimoto
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[1993-09-26-NJPW-G1 Climax Special] Masa Chono vs Yoshiaki Fujiwara
One of the first matches I've seen where I really get the Fujiwara hype, perhaps because it's wrestled like an actual pro-style match and isn't really all that shooty. I much prefer this side of him. Chono bleeds and plays underdog and they work super stiff, but this never becomes the match it deserves to be because of the abrupt finish. After being obliterated and fighting from underneath, Chono just casually pins Fujiwara, which gets almost no crowd reaction because it happens so quickly. I even thought there's no way what I thought I saw actually happened and had to rewind. Weird ending to what was building to a great match.
- [1993-09-25-SMW-TV] Robert Gibson vs Dirty White Boy
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[1993-09-25-SMW-TV] Interview: Sensational Sherri / Down and Dirty: Brian Lee, Ron Wright & Tammy Fytch
Sherri makes threats to Tammy Fytch and is screaming and scary and AWESOME. Then, we segue to an interview with Brian Lee, Ron Wright & Tammy Fytch. Tammy responds by calling her an "ex-convict" who has more hair on her legs than Smothers! Wright asks how DWB is, and Tammy quickly tells him not to worry and that DWB is fine. Seems to be the start of some type of face turn.
- [1993-09-25-SMW-TV] Interview: Jim Cornette
- [1993-09-25-SMW-TV] Bob Armstrong vs Black Ninja
- [1993-09-25-USWA-TV] Interview: Jerry Lawler
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[1993-09-25-USWA-TV] Tommy Rich vs Jeff Jarrett (Cage)
Now THIS match has a clever screwjob finish. Paul Neighbors throws a chain into the cage for Rich to use. Jarrett intercepts and nails him. The pin is delayed, but Rich finally eats the fall. However, the ref was still in a daze, and in the meantime, Neighbors ran in and rolled Rich over Jarrett, so the ref thought that was the fall he counted and raised Rich's hand. I'm impressed. The match is on the short side, but has some nice action.
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[1993-09-25-USWA-TV] Interview: Jerry Lawler
The WWF cycle continues. The feud with Tatanka is over, and now they're switching to Randy Savage again. Good promo, no surprise.
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[1993-09-25-WWF-Superstars] Jim Cornette, Yokozuna and The Undertaker
Cornette is running his mouth about how now that Lex Luger is out of the way, no one can challenge Yokozuna. Suddenly, the lights go out in the arena, and BONG, and the crowd erupts. Awesome moment setting up Yoko's holdover program until Mania.
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[1993-09-25-WWF-Superstars] Ludvig Borga vignette
"You call this the land of milk and honey? Well down here, it stinks funny." These are really funny. "American stinks" and Lex Luger is a "garbage driver".
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- [1993-09-24-AAA-Sin Limite] Villano III vs Rambo (Mask vs Hair)
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Tell-tale signs that a guy is past his prime
I'm still not sure I understand what type of elaboration could be done based on this topic. Wrestlers are past their prime when they stop working and looking the way they did in their prime. You mentioned Flair. He could no longer do the turnbuckle flip or the bridge up from the side headlock/headscissors/flip over sequence. And for some reason, he cut out a lot of things that set up the figure four that weren't really difficult to execute, like the kneecrusher from the belly-to-back suplex position or laying his opponent's leg on the bottom rope and dropping his weight on it. Wrestlers get older, they can do less than they once could. They're also judged more on output than skillset, for the most part. The great matches go away or become less frequent, the prime is over. I don't understand if you're (a) denying that takes place or ( agreeing that it takes place but saying it doesn't really matter.
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Tell-tale signs that a guy is past his prime
Changed. But there's not really a scientfic, foolproof way to answer your question, except to say that when someone stops resembling the person people remember them fondly as, then they're past their prime. What else is there to say/ponder?
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Tell-tale signs that a guy is past his prime
I'd go even earlier for Flair and say dropping the belt to Sting at the Great American Bash was the end of the "Flair era", so to speak. He had a fruitful career after that, but he was never The Man again.
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[1993-09-24-NJPW-G1 Climax Special] Keiji Muto vs Hiroshi Hase
If you aren't a Muto fan, you'll love this match, as it's Hase systematically destroying him for much of it. Muto just comes back at some point and stops selling everything, which stinks because the atmosphere and drama are strong, and Hase was giving an inspired performance. Even in spite of that, the action and close calls down the final stretch are great, and Hase steers the match back in the right direction. Muto is really good here too, he just had a few momentary lapses. The match is not "My turn, your turn" at all -- they stick to the overall theme of Hase being the aggressor, which is nice. Muto's inverted counter to the uranage is awesome, so is his barrage of headbutts to come back. Muto winning after taking all that punishment dragged this down a little for me, but still an excellent match, one of the better NJ singles matches of the year.
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- September 24
- 1993
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