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That said, the short version is that Jericho made an ass of himself while drunk on a European tour in front of Shawn's wife and children, who he brought along on a working vacation. Shawn never asked anyone to behave differently but people were trying to have some boundaries anyway. Well, except Chris. The kids were up late one night and Jericho was loudly swearing up a storm and Helms told him he should watch his language. He said, "It's not my fault Shawn is keeping his kids up so late" really loud in front of everyone, then sarcastically waved "Goodnight!" really loud at him and his wife.

This is a thread for everyone to discuss their thoughts on the book, not for me to transcribe it.

As for the story Helms mentioned on Twitter a few years ago of Shawn blowing up on Jericho in front of everyone, considering what Jericho did to deserve that, he sort of got off easy. Someone else can explain all of that. There has to be some reason left for people to just read the book.

Jericho wanted to work with Punk because of a big blow-up the two had a couple of years before the Wrestlemania match. There was a house show headlined by Jericho-Punk vs Edge-Morrison. It was the same day as some big hockey game, so Jericho and Edge asked if they could call the match in the ring so they could watch the game earlier in the day. So Punk calls the match and just works it all by himself. Jericho kept waiting for a tag that never came. Jericho and Punk ended up in a shouting match afterward with Punk telling Jericho he and Edge were unprofessional for not wanting to work out their match, so he decided to take it into his own hands. They ended up just agreeing to disagree because Punk was adamant that he did the right thing and Jericho was adamant that he didn't. While Jericho still doesn't see the problem to this day with just calling the match in the ring, he liked Punk's stubbornness and chip on his shoulder and thought they had that in common, which would create a strong program.

He just comes across as a very aloof guy in general. Telling a story about how Shawn Michaels reading him the riot act convinced him that he needed to stop drinking so much, followed by more drinking stories.

Yes and yes.

Oh, also, the original pitched idea for Jericho-Punk was for Jericho to somehow hold Punk down and TATTOO HIS NAME on him in the build to Wrestlemania. Punk absolutely loved the idea and even arranged for Jericho to get tattoo lessons from his guy in Chicago, but Vince felt like Punk already had so many tattoos that what's another one? He was also worried that the live tattooing would draw blood. So Vince ended up suggesting that the story be about alcoholism and they went from there.

The text wars between Jericho and Vince are pretty fun to read about too. My favorite, although this was more of a joke: Jericho: "I've come up with an idea for a new finish." Vince: "You already have a finish - looking at the lights! HA-HA-HA!"

It's about Mickey Rourke. Rourke thought Jericho was shooting in the Larry King appearance and was prepared for a real fight. He brought backup with him to Wrestlemania, including Frank Shamrock. Someone in WWE PR tipped Jericho off that Rourke was ready to fight and Jericho was able to smooth things over. Jericho later told Vince what happened and Vince said he, Finlay and Malenko could take all of those guys in the ring, especially the midget (Shamrock). Jericho knew Frank was a badass and said to Vince, "Okay if anything goes wrong, I'll take Rourke and you take the midget." Vince responded "Damn right" and sauntered on.

Luger wasn't even going to be in the main event originally. He was put in after the match was changed because Jim Herd decided Flair needed to beat someone cleanly.

I was just curious if anyone had read it yet. I skimmed it last night (reading certain sections and looking for highlights) and my first impression is that it's a step down from his two previous books, but we still get plenty of my favorite thing - Vince stories! I think my biggest takeaway from it is that Jericho isn't all that self-aware most of the time, is a hothead, drinks a ton and is pretty tough to work with, but Vince respects his talent and sees his value, so he deals with it.

Am I imagining this, or did WCW actually run a Judy Bagwell On A Pole match?

Luger beating Flair was never under consideration in 1988, not that it shouldn't have been. 1990 was Flair making a promise to Sting that the belt wouldn't go anywhere until he got back and then making his own life miserable to keep that promise, which is a bit stupid.

The biggest issue with Michaels is his offense. I can't think of anything he did routinely that looked like it hurt other than the superkick.

I have subscribed since the beginning. I will continue to subscribe, mainly because at some point, it will be something awesome. It has to be. The future of WWE depends on it. I do expect it to get worse before it gets better but I also think they will eventually get it right. As someone who grew up in the era of video rentals, I like having a virtual video store at my fingertips where I can rent any PPV anytime I want.

Yes, and he's head of something-or-other for TNA now.

I have been working on re-formatting threads for several months. There aren't enough hours in the day. I can only do so much, but I think the best bet is for people to edit their own old posts when they come across them.

But the match happened on 2/21, two days later.

Don't get me started on Punk in the summer of 2011. I'll be here all day.

I don't think we'll see him wrestle again.

What's the biggest potential drawing match in 2014-2015 that has a realistic shot of actually happening? I'd say Brock Lesnar vs Daniel Bryan, with Stephanie getting to shave Bryan's beard herself if he loses and Steve Austin as referee, but that's just a shot in the dark.

Does anyone know what episode of TV this actually aired on? I know the 2/21 date is correct, but I can't find this matchup airing on AJ TV after 2/21. It aired twice before that date, though.

This may sound ridiculous on the surface, but setting aside the stylistic differences, I think a side-by-side comparison of John Cena and Atsushi Onita as big match workers would be very interesting.

Has Korakuen been remodeled in recent years? It doesn't look the same to me.

The biggest knock on Austin is that he and Undertaker never could figure out how to have a good match despite what seemed like a million chances to do so. It's the problem with matches when two asskickers collide - someone has to be the underdog and sell.