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How does Boss Man compare to these names overall? - Lex Luger - Diamond Dallas Page - Hulk Hogan - Haku
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These rumors happen every year and I don't expect it to ever happen. Austin has talked openly about the downside of doing an additional match before.
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Last few minutes. Vince, Shawn and the rest of the Corporation are at ringside. They sure shoved Test to the moon right away. Shawn is a great ringside second. The lights go out and Kane shows up. Kane ends up chokeslamming HHH and joining The Corporation in his third turn of the year. Lovely. DX gets chokeslammed one by one. Chyna tries punching Kane and gets chokeslammed herself as the show goes off the air.
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The infamous RAW IS PORN segments. PMS lure Henry into a candlelit room, then they want him to watch them take a shower together. Then they strip Henry down to his boxers. Jacqueline ends up putting a dog collar on Henry and they put him face down before rolling him over and gagging him. They cover his chest in whip cream and start using various sex toys on him before strapping him down to the table. Meanwhile, Mark Henry and D-Lo are scheduled for a match and D-Lo has to go it alone against The Headbangers. Jacqueline ends up beating up Henry with a cat-o-nine-tails. Lawler is getting updates from the producers on everything they're doing during the match. ("They're doing what? How many gerbils? Is that possible?") Just after the match ends, Henry comes limping out in his boxers and broken handcuffs on his wrists trying to help. Height of Russo stuff.
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Ric Flair interrupts a Barry Windham vs Van Hammer match to get his revenge, and he looks great doing it. A referee tries to break things up and Flair slugs him. Crowd is quite hot for this. I love Flair gouging his eyes and face and doing all the low blows. Those punches are great too. I'd say this impromptu brawl is the best Flair has looked in years. Vincent runs in and gets low-blowed by Flair, then Arn comes in to help with that. Brian Adams and Horace try a save and get ambushed by Benoit and Malenko. Security pulls them apart, which angers Tony Schiavone and rightfully so. They are at least selling this like something is up with security intervening the way they did. Back in the ring, Flair does an incredible promo with tears in his eyes with his voice breaking. He gets the word "shitcan" past the censors. He talks about how Bischoff tried to ruin his career but the people wouldn't let him do that. So he sicked his lawyers on Flair. He finally says why he came back. Reid approached him to ask why he didn't just beat the hell out of Bischoff and get back in the swing of things. This is an incredible segment that REALLY has me hyped for Flair-Bischoff. This is more emotional than anything WCW has done all year except for Flair's actual return.
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Tony suddenly having an epiphany understanding this storyline is funny. The way the match is worked is that Eddy is out to injure Rey so he's not 100% at Starrcade. Eddy does some world class work on Rey's knee, but it's not his entire focus. Eddy is just awesome in this, both as a heel and for having tremendous offense. There's a ref bump and we're supposed to buy that Rey crashing into Charles Robinson is enough to take him out. Kidman comes out to slug Eddy and accidentally slugs Rey, giving Eddy the win. I don't really care for dumb babyfaces when there's no turn planned. Booking aside, this was an excellent match.
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Bischoff gets big heat, which he ought to after the previous week. He apologizes that Flair can't be here tonight. Meanwhile, while Bischoff is in the ring, the Horsemen are entering the ring. Bischoff is oblivious to all of this and the Horsemen gang attack Scott Norton, who is alone in the NWO locker room. Flair then takes off for Bischoff in the ring and Eric gets chased out of sight. Flair is running like a cat, Good Lord! Bischoff ends up running out of the building. Flair then comes back to give quite the impassioned promo, and it's awesome to see him get this reaction in St. Louis. Flair promises if he gets his hands on Bischoff tonight, he will die in this arena. He even swears on the graves of Bruiser Brody and Dick the Bruiser. Great stuff.
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Nash draws a parallel between himself and Goldberg, pointing out that he had 197 successful title defenses and an undefeated streak during all of that. He says while Goldberg is doing TV Guide, Nash is getting ready for him. It's about time he took this tone in promos. We know what's coming, but as a standalone segment, this worked.
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We're touring Jerry Lawler's house at Christmas time! Christmas is supposed to be loud and gawdy if it's done right, so I'm hoping for something way over the top. We get the tour of Christmas decorations before going to the famed Coca-Cola Memorabilia Room. He has an additional Christmas tree that is decorated entirely with CROWN ORNAMENTS! Amazing! The King did not let me down. Brian Christopher shows up at Lawler's with a huge box and it turns out to be Sean Stasiak in his wrestling gear! He's here to put the moves on Stacy. They end up going through his house and for some reason, Lawler is tolerating this. He asks them to leave and they won't cooperate. Sean catches Stacy under the mistletoe and she ends up running into some room and locking the door. Finally, Lawler burns Stasiak with a fireball and they take off in a panic. I'll have to remember that trick for getting company to leave.
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I thought I read at one point that WCW didn't want guys working Mexico for fear they'd get hurt. However, I know some guys were doing it anyway and just trying not to get caught. Is that likely what happened with Silver King and the Villanos here?
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Pretty good match that I think might have benefitted from more time. The work is good and I like the layout, but everything seems a bit rushed. The Santo/Casas/Felino team is a very good one and does an awesome rally from behind near the end of this. Just shy of a great match for me, even though all the individual elements are there from an action, heat, hatred and layout standpoint.
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How did this work? I'm watching a match from late '98 involving Silver King and the Villanos in CMLL. But they were also working in WCW at the time, with Silver King in Eddy Guerrero's LWO. But I thought WCW worked with AAA. But then the WWF started working with AAA in early 1997, which adds confusion. Did something change? Is there anywhere that has a good rundown of how all of this worked? And what was Konnan's role in procuring talent?
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Those are babyface triumphs and yes, those matches worked well at the time and got a great reaction. But aside from that Canadian Stampede 10-man, the matches I cited were more based in strong heel moments getting tons of heat, and I can't remember the last time I saw that happen. Lots of guys now are capable of getting people to love them passionately. Few, if any, are capable of getting people to hate them passionately.
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That Elimination Chamber match I overrated at the time and have since admitted I did, so why bring it up? I was high on WWE through Mania. WWE has been horrible since Mania.
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I'm more interested in comparisons to 1990s when both the athleticism and heat were present. Let's use 1997. Has anything that has happened in WWE this year touched Bret/Austin, the 10-man at Canadian Stampede or Shawn/Undertaker in the first HIAC? Can anything touch the heat at One Night Only? And do those matches really look all that passe? Yes, your random undercard match today is probably going to be technically better, but I don't think wrestling is as capable of peaking high as it was 20 years ago.
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I wouldn't. I haven't even seen Martel-Tito in the AWF in order to make the comparison. Just encouraging consistency.
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This was the first match where Yoshida's reinvention really came together. She rips it up on the mat and has great intensity. I've praised Yoshida before, but I have to give credit to Candy Okutsu as well, since she gave a strong performance, although I liked this far better when Yoshida was the one on offense because everything seemed to carry more weight and the circumstances seemed a bit more dire. Yoshida would have matches where she was able to get her opponent more into her style in 1999, but this was an effective teaser of the year ahead.