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  1. An update on the insults about Big Boss Man's mother. What a lame program idea. They recap the Heenan handcuffing stuff, which was an angle I did like because of the performances from Heenan and Boss Man.
  2. The plucky Kobashi takes a lot of abuse from Misawa and Kawada, including a vertical suplex from the apron to the floor. Misawa and Kawada are really working like a confident team at this point. This is the most surly I've seen Kawada so far in 1990, toying with Kobashi by bootscraping his face, and cheapshotting him when a knee to the back when he's running the ropes. He seems to have found himself. All of this serves to get Kobashi over in a big way with the crowd, and Ace actually delivers on the hot tag. Both Kawada and Kobashi had grown as workers even since the end of June, and Ace at this point works hard and doesn't look out of place at at all, even if he is clearly the lesser worker of the four. This was an excellent match, even with Kobashi messing up the finish, and it was the best of the Kobashi/Ace tags so far.
  3. Yes. This isn't a one-time thing. It's a regularly occuring thing. So let's use this as an omnibus thread when Nash starts lying about WCW's decline, or anything else for that matter.
  4. This time around, Bobby Eaton is the gauntlet runner. He has Tracy Smothers, Ricky Morton and Sid Vicious ahead of him this weekend. This is another good showcase for Bobby, as he gets a solid match out of Smothers. A lot of the customary Bobby Eaton offense, but I love the roundhouse clothesline making an appearance. The ring breaks toward the end of this.
  5. They re-show the Gary Cappetta interview with Flair that was interrupted by Doom and Teddy Long. We also get a clip of a Danger Zone with Flair and Arn that was quickly interrupted by Doom. Long gets mouthy and Flair shoves him. Things quickly get chaotic. This all leads to Teddy Long as the guest. When you hold the gold, everybody wants it. The match is made for Havoc.
  6. This is the best wrestling match of the three, as Arn plays to Scott's strengths, giving him some stuff on the mat and bumping big for his power moves. Arn ends up pinning Steiner using the ropes, but Randy Anderson comes out and restarts the match. Flair pulls the referee out of the ring and Scott wins by DQ. They are doubleteaming Scott until Rick makes the save. So Scott can pin Flair, but can only beat Arn by DQ. That makes tons of sense.
  7. Later in the show, Heenan is still handcuffed and Rude is out and furious. Rude calls this "bullshit" and gets censored. Rude won't even let Vince finish his threat over using that language. Hilarious.
  8. Before the match, Boss Man approaches Bobby Heenan at the broadcast booth over the jokes about his mama. He handcuffs Heenan and takes him away, with Heenan taking a really scary bump from the top of the stairs. Good Lord! He finally handcuffs Heenan to the guard rail at ringside. Boss Man works his squash and finishes off Perez without breaking a sweat before the referees and Rene Goulet swarm the ringside area to protect Boss Man from attacking Heenan. He throws the keys to Heenan's handcuffs into the crowd, and all the officials escort Boss Man away from the ring, leaving Heenan to fend for himself as the next match starts. Good stuff.
  9. Just because this seems to happen every few months or so. Check this out on WWE.com. Nash is sticking to his talking points like crazy, and is defensive for no apparent reason. http://www.wwe.com/classics/foley-nash-jan-4-1999-26081539
  10. This is a match Dylan and puropotsy have been pretty high on for a long time, so I'm glad to finally be watching it. This really shows much "stuff" Rogers had -- aggression, offense and schtick. I love his strikes -- punching, kicking, double axehandling and elbowing -- as much as I do anything else because it all looks so good. Pettipas has some stuff he can do well and keeps up fine, but Rogers is the star here. It's not so much what he does, but how he does it that makes him so good. So description isn't really the best way to put over how good this is. Bulldog Bob Brown runs in for a DQ finish before I think Kurrgan makes the save, just to make this really bizarre. This was a really good match, on par with a lot of the best stuff happening on WCW TV at the time. Rip Rogers was a high quality pro wrestler.
  11. The end of Tony Atlas's run in ICW, as he drops the title to Vic Steamboat in a match that was shown on ICW TV again and again and again and again. Pretty bad, but the things that have made Atlas fun in '90 have had nothing to do with his work in the ring.
  12. I know they were trying to move on from Flair, but Flair doing a job in a throwaway 10-minute TV match to a guy far below him on the pecking order does no one any good, and just ruins the whole match for me. Steiner pinning Flair should be a big moment, if they're going to do it. It's also weird that they are willing to give Scott Steiner a televised pinfall victory on Flair at this point, but Luger still can't beat him. It makes no sense at all. I try not to compare U.S. booking to All Japan booking because the U.S. promotions can't possibly come out of it looking good, but there's a daylight between WCW booking of big wins and losses and All Japan booking of big wins and losses that is hard to avoid. Not to fantasy book too much, but Steiner squashing Flair is also ridiculous. Flair was still The Man, even if Sting was the champ and even if the promotion didn't want Flair to be The Man anymore. Based on their difference in card placement, Steiner should have worked from underneath for a big chunk of this. I have no idea if the match was any good or not, because I couldn't get past the booking.
  13. It's hard to call something the best show ever when you can't sit through it enjoyably in one sitting, even if it's full of good matches.
  14. Another promo from the Black Scorpion. Sting responds in front of the live crowd. I liked that most of Sting's interviews were done in front of a crowd, because he fed off of that and it played to his strengths. The Black Scorpion appears in the crowd and Sting goes to look for him, but the segment ends. It's a shame this was the first program he had as champion.
  15. Zenk was an almost complete wall ornament here, which may have been for the best. Arn is so good at working disoriented when facing high flyers, and Flair and Pillman light each other up with some hard chops. This had all the makings of a really good match, but never quite got there, as it was pretty one-sided in favor of the babyfaces until the last few minutes. It also needed more time for how they laid out the match. But it was fun to see these guys go at it for 10 minutes. Flair and Pillman really try to build the entire match around their stiff chops, and they do some really spirited brawling on the outside of the ring. Those two had way more great singles matches in them. It's a shame only a couple of them made TV. The Doom/Horsemen post-match brawl had awesome heat.
  16. Eddie Gilbert interrupts the local DJ and his bikini-clad women and starts plugging his appearances at Hot Stuff Toyota by the airport. Funny. Gilbert is upset because he was promised if he won the battle royal that he would get a new Toyota and he didn't get it. He claims Jerry Lawler stole his car, and says he's looking forward to the Eddie Gilbert Fan Club writing nice things about him on his car. He closes out by hyping the Coal Miner's Glove match. This is more lighthearted than normal, but I liked it.
  17. Clips of a battle royal from MSC where all the wrestlers were blindfolded. We join this with the match down to Lawler and Gilbert. Gilbert lifts his hood up when the referee isn't looking, sees that Lawler is in the ring and hits him with a foreign object before pinning him. He had the choice to choose between two mystery cars, as he'd be the winner of one. One was a brand new Toyota MR2, and he made a lousy choice and ends up with an old clunker! He throws a fit, hitting the car with a chair and jumping on it. Funny stuff. Lawler plugs a public appearance where he'll have Eddie Gilbert's car at Airport Toyota from 1-3 this afternoon, and fans can spray paint exactly what they think of Eddie Gilbert on the car. Awesome! He also talks about the upcoming one-night USWA title tournament, which we'll have very well-represented. He absolutely buries The Snowman for leaving while the champion. He was making public appearances in Memphis calling himself the champ during this time, while quitting the promotion without dropping the title. He closes out by hyping a Coal Miner's Glove match with Gilbert. This is more of a series of announcements than a wrestling interview, but Lawler can read a phone book and make it interesting.
  18. Rick Martel is out hawking Arrogance to start things off again. This is Slaughter's first interview in front of a crowd. I'm struck by how much we have changed culturally when Vince talks about how Slaughter has the opportunity to be a great role model for our "boys" in the middle east, but isn't one at all. It's all fairly tasteless, but Slaughter is an awesome heel and delivers a hell of an interview. It's a breath of fresh air in a pretty stale company. The way he says "Iiiihhhhrrraaaaccckkkk" is amazing. General Adnan debuts as his ... manager (Is that the right term??) and even Brother Love sells a little shock over that. They openly play up his resemblance to Saddam Hussein. For the purposes of this yearbook, I'll just focus on the performance aspect and not the taste issues moving ahead, unless there's just something I can't overlook.
  19. Scott Steiner is about to run the gauntlet in one of my favorite ideas for televised wrestling ever. The way it works: he faces three high-quality wrestlers on all three TBS weekend shows. He has drawn Bobby Eaton, Ric Flair and Arn Anderson as opponents. If he makes it through successfully, he wins $15,000. If any one of them beat him, they split the money among the three of them. Great idea to showcase some good matches that aren't really marquee enough to headline a PPV, but are good matchups that could draw television ratings. And in this case, Scott is matched up with the three best workers in the company. Flair has joined Jim Ross to do commentary on this one, and does a great job putting over Scott Steiner while still heeling himself. Stan Lane and Rick Steiner are also at ringside, and this suddenly feels like it has really high stakes. I love the tennis racket to swinging neckbreaker transition from Bobby and Cornette. Scott does what he needs to do here, but Eaton is carrying this and makes Scott look really good. The match has a lot of heat and is really well-booked. I don't know that they needed all these tricks to have a good match, but they had them anyway.
  20. I love Cornette's tie. Before Hansen talks, Luger does a really super, fired up promo promising revenge on Hansen, possibly his best of the year. Wow. Hansen calls Luger a prima donna and a "preppy puke"! Hansen says he's going after Luger, then Sting.
  21. While I'm at it, here's the New Japan list, if that can also be edited: Dr. Wagner & Kendo Ka Shin vs Shinjiro Otani & Tatsuhito Takaiwa (NJPW Tokyo Dome 01/04/99) (Finish only - title change) Shinya Hashimoto vs Naoya Ogawa (NJPW Tokyo Dome 01/04/99) Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima vs Genichiro Tenryu & Shiro Koshinaka (NJPW Tokyo Dome 01/04/99) (Finish only - title change) Keiji Muto vs Scott Norton (NJPW Tokyo Dome 01/04/99) (Finish only - title change) Jushin Liger vs Shinjiro Otani (NJPW 01/27/99) Jushin Liger & El Samurai vs Kendo Ka Shin & Dr. Wagner Jr. (NJPW 02/02/99) Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs Yuji Nagata & Manabu Nakanishi (NJPW 02/05/99) Shinjiro Otani & Tatsuhito Takaiwa vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Kendo Ka Shin (NJPW 02/11/99) Kensuke Sasaki vs Satoshi Kojima (NJPW 02/11/99) Keiji Muto vs Kensuke Sasaki (NJPW 02/14/99) Atsushi Onita angle (NJPW 03/03/99) Keiji Muto & Satoshi Kojima vs Kensuke Sasaki & Shiro Koshinaka (NJPW 03/03/99) Jushin Liger vs Koji Kanemoto (NJPW 03/17/99) Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima vs Kensuke Sasaki & Shiro Koshinaka (NJPW 03/22/99) Jushin Liger & Great Sasuke vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Kendo Ka Shin (NJPW 04/10/99) (Finish only, title change) Masa Chono vs Atsushi Onita (NJPW 04/10/99, Explosive Barbed Wire Match) Keiji Muto vs Don Frye (NJPW 04/19/99) Shinjiro Otani & Tatsuhito Takaiwa vs Koji Kanemoto & Kendo Ka Shin (NJPW 04/21/99) Genichiro Tenryu, Tadao Yasuda & Tatsumi Fujinami vs Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Satoshi Kojima & Keiji Muto (NJPW 04/21/99) Genichiro Tenryu vs Keiji Muto (NJPW 05/03/99) Shinjiro Otani vs Masao Orihara (NJPW 05/25/99) Shinjiro Otani vs Minoru Tanaka (NJPW 05/31/99) Jushin Liger vs Koji Kanemoto (NJPW 05/31/99) El Samurai vs Shinjiro Otani (NJPW 06/03/99) Masa Chono & Don Frye vs Keiji Muto & Satoshi Kojima (NJPW 06/08/99) Genichiro Tenryu vs Shinya Hashimoto (NJPW 06/08/99) Koji Kanemoto vs Minoru Tanaka (NJPW 06/27/99) Kensuke Sasaki & Shiro Koshinaka vs Tatsu Goto & Michiyoshi Ohara (NJPW 06/27/99) (Finish only) Koji Kanemoto vs El Samurai (NJPW 07/01/99) Jushin Liger & Great Sasuke vs Shinjiro Otani & Tatsuhito Takaiwa (NJPW 07/13/99) Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs Shinya Hashimoto (NJPW G-1 Climax 08/10/99) Shiro Koshinaka vs Masa Chono (NJPW G-1 Climax 08/10/99) Yuji Nagata vs Satoshi Kojima (NJPW G-1 Climax 08/10/99) Tatsumi Fujinami vs Keiji Muto (NJPW G-1 Climax 08/10/99) Kensuke Sasaki vs Satoshi Kojima (NJPW G-1 Climax 08/11/99) Keiji Muto vs Yuji Nagata (NJPW G-1 Climax 08/11/99) Masa Chono vs Shinya Hashimoto (NJPW G-1 Climax 08/11/99) Keiji Muto vs Manabu Nakanishi (NJPW G-1 Climax 08/15/99) Koji Kanemoto vs Kendo Ka Shin (NJPW 08/28/99) (Finish only, title change) Great Muta vs Great Nita (NJPW 08/28/99, No Rope Barbed Wire Land Mine Exploding Death Match) Yuji Nagata & Manabu Nakanishi vs Michiyoshi Ohara & Tatsu Goto (NJPW 08/28/99) (Finish only, title change) Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima vs Yuji Nagata & Manabu Nakanishi (NJPW 09/23/99) Keiji Muto & Scott Norton vs Manabu Nakanishi & Yuji Nagata (NJPW 09/23/99) Jushin Liger vs Kendo Ka Shin (NJPW Tokyo Dome 10/11/99) (Finish only, title change) Shinjiro Otani & Tatsuhito Takaiwa vs Minoru Tanaka & Koji Kanemoto (NJPW Tokyo Dome 10/11/99) Shinya Hashimoto vs Naoya Ogawa (NJPW Tokyo Dome 10/11/99) Keiji Muto vs Manabu Nakanishi (NJPW Tokyo Dome 10/11/99) Jushin Liger vs Wild Pegasus (NJPW 10/17/99) Keiji Muto & Satoshi Kojima vs Shiro Koshinaka & Yuji Nagata (NJPW 10/17/99) Jushin Liger & Wild Pegasus vs Shinjiro Otani & Tatsuhito Takaiwa (NJPW 10/19/99) Genichiro Tenryu vs Keiji Muto (NJPW 12/10/99)
  22. I always thought SuperBrawl II was a good sleeper pick.
  23. It worked in making Luger hotter and setting up rematches that drew on house shows, but there's a pretty significant buyrate dropoff between the Bash and Starrcade. House shows were still the center of the business model of JCP, and they really didn't grasp how PPV could help them.

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