Blehschmidt

Damn, how did I forget Jake Roberts.

Based off some talk in the WWE Network Thread, I was pondering Top WWF Babyfaces from 1989-1991. Hogan and Warrior are obviously a run away 1 and 2. Based on talk in that thread, it seems that Beefcake can pretty comfortably be named #3. Who do folks have to round out a Top 5? I feel pretty comfortable slotting "Hacksaw" in at #4. A constant and over babyface that could work virtually anywhere on the card. For #5, man you got Dusty, Piper, Tito, Bret, Bulldog, maybe the Bushwhackers. My choice.... Demolition. After they turned face, they were huge (bigger than LOD ever got in WWF in my opinion) and they remained that way until they were turned and fed to LOD. Who you got?

Not gonna lie, I was a huge "Barber" fan when I was like 10! Looking back, sure Beefcake was mediocre at best in the ring, but like C.S. said, he was really, really fucking over. It's kind of sad that the rest of his career turned him into a joke, because in 89/90 he was probably the third biggest babyface in the United States behind Hogan and The Warrior.

My wife hates wrestling but always thought Chris Jericho and Christian (circa 1998ish) were hot. A girl I work with who catches me watching wrestling when I should be working thinks Ricochet is one of the hottest guys she has ever seen. Me? I'm with whoever pointed out modern day Drew McIntyre. That's a god damn handsome man. As for women.... Beulah is still my all time favorite.

I wish this was World War 3 so we could cut to Chris Cruise and Dusty Rhodes over in Ring 2.

I had to wonder if the people who were enjoying Orange Cassidy being Orange Cassidy over Mania weekend, had any idea of how different and good he can be when he's under the mask and not doing comedy.

Nicholas should have given him the low blow.

Thank You!

I have been trying to keep up with results from all of the shows from the weekend, and have managed to find everything except for yesterdays Pancakes and Piledrivers show. Anyone happen to have a lead on results for that?

Yes, we know. Cena isn't Volk Han. I am so glad you've come into yet another thread to tell us how you judge workers and not meaningfully contribute to what is actually being talked about. You obviously don't care about modern WWE, so why in the hell are you in this thread in the first place!! I'm sorry everyone. I really enjoy coming here and reading interesting takes by intelligent people (which is rare on the internet) on a hobby that I have enjoyed since I was a kid, and I am just tired of seeing this troll pop up in every fucking thread to talk about how he rates workers based on realism. We get it.. Shit.

I think Elias is the favorite at the moment, but since they like to have big dudes win it and this is about the time he was supposed to return from injury, my money is on a Big Cass return for the win.

A third for the Pillman book. Great read. Even my Dad, who never liked Pillman, couldn't put it down and has a new found respect for the guy. Well worth the price.

I will agree that it probably isn't the best way to go with Braun, but since strapping the rocket to his ass and striking while the iron is hot no longer seems to be in the WWE playbook, it just seems like a direction they could go. As for her character, they have turned worse people with less explanation, and the crowd wouldn't care so long as "cool big dude and hot girl" were funny and kicked ass together.

It's almost too bad they can't have just the slightest bit of male on female violence these days (that felt wierd to type) because if they had a couple heel guys and a heel girl corner Bliss and rough her up just a little,the pop when Braun came out and smashed the dudes would be huge. They could keep playing the will they/won't they stuff for a while. Get another huge pop if they finally kiss or whatever, or just say she was playing him if they decide to keep her heel. They've been super entertaining on Mixed Match together. Be a shame to let it go away.

Whether it happened or didn't happen I have no idea, but wrestling is an incredibly vain business and the fact that half of these sound like "I was the prettiest and she didn't force me to fuck anyone, so it couldn't have happened" is incredibly sad.

Yes, we know, Volk Han

Looks like Thunder has started going up.

If nothing else, I'm sure Quackenbush would let them use the footage of Saint working with Daniel Bryan and Cesaro to help sell the thing to the younger crowd.

I don't get the logic of running all the vignettes for TM61, only to job them in the first round of the tournament.

Thank You!!!

There was a dude called up to Smackdown sometime in the mid 2000's, had kind of a dark Matrix like gimmick, everyone thought he was gonna feud with Undertaker. I think he might have been of Spanish descent. Got released before he ever went anywhere. Anyone remember his name?

Sheamus and Cesaro now have zero credible challengers left for Mania. So are we getting the hodge podge thrown together team winning the titles with a hasty build up, or the mystery nostalgia team coming out for the huge pop winning the titles in a Mania Open Challenge. My money is on The Dudleys (though that kinda takes the mystery out of it)

(Well, I know this was supposed to be done ages ago, but between work, real world shit, and just plain forgetting about it, I never did it. I actually came across the paper I was using to keep track of my draft picks today at work, so I figured I would get at least a bare bones outline of what my plan was up on the board.) -Match 1- Chris Von Erich vs "From Outta Town" Snake Brown A quick opener against a scrub to give the youngest Von Erich a win in Texas Stadium and start the crowd off happy! -Match 2- The Killer Bee's (Brian Blair/Jim Brunzell) vs The Texas Hangmen (Psycho/Killer) The Bee's pull out the masked confusion gimmick to counter the Hangmen's constant switching, but a cowbell shot to Blair behind the back of Bronko gives the Hangmen the win. -Match 3- Big John Studd vs "Hollywood" John Tatum Lots of Tatum avoiding the much bigger Studd while stooging and making his fantastic chickenshit heel faces. Studd works him over early, some Tatum cheating gets him the advantage leading to him trying to chop the big man down. Studd eventually takes back over, tosses him around some more and gets the win. -Match 4- Harley Race vs Brutus Beefcake Harley's pretty much done at this point, and Brutus is Brutus, so we keep this one short, we have Brutus pick up the win with the sleeper, but we send whatever heel manager we can get our hands on for the night in too get a haircut as not to disrespect the legend. -Match 5- 10 Man Over the Top Rope Battle Royal Brian Lee by The Missing Link Bill Irwin by Tatanka Black Bart by Tatanka Jimmy Golden by Billy Jack Haynes Iceman King Parsons by Al Perez Al Perez by Kevin Sullivan Billy Jack Haynes by Kevin Sullivan and The Missing Link The Missing Link by Tatanka Tatanka by Kevin Sullivan Kevin Sullivan wins -Match 6- Sgt. Slaughter/"Hacksaw" Jim Duggan vs Soldat Ustinov/The Dark Patriot U.S.A. U.S.A. Need I say more? -Match 7- Bruiser Brody vs Kamala w/Gary Hart Absolute wild brawl, chairs, chains, and whatever else they can get a hold of. Referee eventually tosses the whole thing out, but Brody ends up standing in the ring, covered in blood, HUSS'ing and swinging his chain -Match 8- Kevin Von Erich vs The Honky Tonk Man - Texas Heavyweight Championship Lots of heeling and stalling by Honky. Tons of cut off hope spots for Kevin. After the crowd is suitably pissed off and ready to murder Honky, Kevin locks in the Iron Claw and retains the title so that HTM can leave the building alive. -Match 9- The Fantastics vs Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard - Tag Team Titles Most likely the match of the night. Minimum 25 minutes, but they can call it in the ring. Tully knee's Fulton in the back from the apron, DDT from Arn, cover, new champs! -MAIN EVENT- Kerry Von Erich vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig - World Heavyweight Championship Get the title on Curt by any means necessary before the show happens, then Kerry obviously goes over to send the crowd home happy, probably send Gary Hart out with Hennig too, so that Fritz can make his way down to the ring and knock him on his ass. Family comes out to celebrate, Texas rejoices, the end.