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Anyone have any idea how many ballots Dave usually gets back?

I like his Portland and AWA stuff. The WWF work is way more miss than hit. I hate it when you have fond memories of someone or thing and it doesn't hold up to your fond memories.

I liked how up front the good Dr. was about angles or particular runs of his stinking . The talk of Survivor Series in Boston how the crowd shit all over the match was fun.

Dylan I see you didn't vote Murdoch. Did the podcast and the data drops not convince you enough? Also if you could have had another 2 spots would Murdoch make your ballot? It still seemed like you had a couple more people ahead of Murdoch. Final question what kept Murdoch off your ballot? I'm curious if Kris, Will, or Keith can address it? Or make a counter argument?

Will do.

He's not the best Lucha guy, but he may be my favorite . I love him on the mat. My dream match of his was Blue Panther vs. Jim Breaks.

An excellent Parv's point .

To me if anyone wants to do the ballot or not do it that's their prerogative . Of course I want Charles involved. I feel that there is a handful of posters that bring a certain impact that Charles brings to the table. I hope he changes his mind. If not that's his choice. Didn't think an announcement needed to be made though because this has people talking.(I'm guilty) Instead of talking about great wrestlers.

Dylan I see you didn't vote Murdoch. Did the podcast and the data drops not convince you enough? Also if you could have had another 2 spots would Murdoch make your ballot? It still seemed like you had a couple more people ahead of Murdoch. Final question what kept Murdoch off your ballot? I'm curious if Kris, Will, or Keith can address it? Or make a counter argument?

This is a neat breakdown. Good job.

Their matches with the Rock and Roll Express were some of the best in JCP. These guys had great structure to their matches. Were awesome at getting heat on the baby faces . Were so focused at ripping at an arm or leg. Their stuff looked legit.

I think those Bulldogs vs. Hart Foundation matches that made tape are really overrated . Some of them were good. I preferred their series with the Dream Team.

Slaughter should be going on my ballot. One of the all time great big man bumpers. He has the Steamboat/Youngblood matches, Iron Sheik , Backlund, Morales, Hogan, Hansen, Starcage, Wahoo, and others. He'll be in the 65-100 range . Plenty of memorable angles too. Got crowd reactions as a heel and as a face.

I think you like the Funk/Graham match more than I do. I thought the gimmick really helped it and added to the drama. Heath in explaining things and the psychology of what was happening . He was amazing. The last fall was tremendous and really had a ton of drama to it. Terry coming out at ringside made the drama and stakes that much higher. I thought at times the match was dull. With that said with the presentation, drama, and announcing made this special. All of those things helped hide the dull parts of the match.

Ivan and Dusty did good business in Houston as well. I have a tendency to hold views in higher regard if they do business across multiple territories.

His feud with Dick the Bruiser was huge in St. Louis.

Not arguing what you're saying. Their was many times the Moonsault was important to the story . I'm not a fan of the Moonsault for him. I'm all for him trying difficult things. I just wish he would have chose something different than a Moonsault. It has more to do with the move than the wrestler.

I didn't think he needed to do it.

I'm a fan of Kobashi. I seem him in my top 10. I just don't know where. One of my knocks on him was sometimes he would do something in a match that we didn't need. His Moonsault was an example of this for me.

I think the NWA Champ toured more in Amarillo because of the Funks. That's not a knock at Murdoch but might have helped him get shots in that territory.

I have. I gotta revisit it. I'll give it a watch tonight. Heath was great at explaining holds and stuff .

I thought the first 5 to 10 minutes were kind of a feeling out process of sorts. After that though holy cow. This was just tremendous. The arm work from both guys was cool. Kobashi's facials were so great and just added to the drama.

The Japan run is a major plus for his candidacy. Seeing all of that is quite impressive .

Also by looking at the amount of title shots Murdoch had in Florida proves to me that Murdoch was just as key as Dusty in drawing for the Outlaws.

The World Title snapshot was interesting. It gives an idea where Murdoch stood. It's not elite, but good. The Mid-South run in 85 is kind of similar. The Dibiase feud was big. Though I feel Duggan and Reed were the biggest draws of 85 in the company. Still not sure how much of the draw was the residual drawing power from how hot the promotion was in 84 and it's something we can't really evaluate.It's clear though that no one took business to higher levels than 84. Plus it looks like Reed and Duggan were the key aspects of the super shows. The results Kris posted are interesting.