Everything posted by flyonthewall2983
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Brock is back
I get that, too. It makes me hopeful if/when he has reigns on the creative direction, they scale back some of the sillier elements of today's product. And provided he knows to get out of the way and let someone else be The Game, but that's a pipe dream of epic proportions.
- [1994-03-12-WCW-Saturday Night] Interview: Hulk Hogan
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[1994-03-12-WCW-Saturday Night] Interview: Hulk Hogan
Their first mistake was letting Flair go heel, and putting them in a program against each other right off the bat. Putting him with Ric as friends/partners for awhile would probably have eased the more hardcore WCW audience into liking him. Eventually of course, Flair does the double cross and it gets them going in a hot angle. Savage coming back as a heel in that situation would have had it's own interesting trajectory, with Randy and Ric (maybe along with Arn and Vader as the new Horsemen) maybe going against Hogan and Sting primarily. It can't be said enough, how much Sting was screwed over by Hogan coming in. What Bret may have felt for those couple of months in '93 when Hulk came back and stole his spot, Sting had to have felt it for those first two years WCW was struggling to make Hogan their top good guy. All of which lent quite a bit of leverage to the character turn and angle he did in '96 and '97, re-inventing his character and becoming the top babyface opponent to the NWO
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Derivative Gimmicks
It could have well been that too, but it's also addressing the big elephant in the room. I watched the Barry Darsow shoot, and I agree that both teams could have had a bit more longevity if they didn't put the two of them right off the bat as they did in '90. It was probably done to ease Demolition out though, as it's been noted that Bill Eadie was having health problems. The comment I made about the outfits was along the lines that it was easy to think the Road Warriors were like these futuristic bikers, but quite a bit of Demolition's gear is easily identifiable with fetish gear, especially when they started wrestling in hoods for that brief period in Fall '90.
- [1995-05-21-WCW-Slamboree] Hall of Fame ceremony
- [1994-03-12-WCW-Saturday Night] Interview: Hulk Hogan
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WCW ongoing thread
I thought it was a bit darkly funny they gave Ed Leslie the Zodiac gimmick, considering that Brutus Beefcake's gimmick hometown was San Francisco.
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Extreme Rules
I watched Cena/Lesnar last night for the first time, and I'm kind of mortified/depressed that the two young Cena marks weren't bawling their eyes out seeing John get destroyed.
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Derivative Gimmicks
It turned out to be a great run and team, but Demolition must have been an out-right spoof of the Road Warrior gimmick. Whoever came up with their wardrobe either had a pretty twisted sense of humor or looked in their own closets for inspiration.
- [1996-09-02-WCW-Nitro] Ric Flair & Arn Anderson & Chris Benoit & Steve McMichael vs Kevin Sullivan & Big Bubba Rogers & Meng & Barbarian
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[1993-04-24-WCW-Saturday Night] Vader vs Cactus Jack
They weren't the only ones. WWE rode that wave too with Men On A Mission.
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- [1994-03-05-WWF-Superstars] Funeral Parlor: Owen Hart
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Dave Meltzer stuff
Part of me kind of wishes it was a shoot, or that he'll quit before HHH can get his revenge on him.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
He said that Russo gave all the undercard guys stuff to do, and because of that they were more known to the audience.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
It really surprised me. And I agree, he doesn't seem like he was too tied down because like him or not he is a road dog for carrying that ball as long as he has.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
How many of these were published?
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
I'd be more impressed if she hired the lawyer who represented Phil Collins' last wife.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
I'm sure there will be plenty of hush-hush money spent, if that's the case. It could just be the time spent away was crippling their marriage, and nothing else.
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[1994-04-17-WCW-Spring Stampede] Cactus Jack & Maxx Payne vs Nasty Boys
It makes me wonder what would have happened if Vince held onto the older guys, and let Bret and Shawn slip through his fingers and went to WCW in '92 or '93. Would Bischoff have recognized their talent enough for WCW to go in the opposite direction? I'm guessing not, because I don't think that was ever his strong suit. He had guys like Rhodes and Sullivan that recognized the skills better, and had a pretty established track record as far as that. I'm guessing that must have been part of the reason why Vince shifted the focus to the younger talent, because that unrest Bret and Shawn talked about on their DVD of having to play 2nd banana to the bigger talent must have been quite palpable to.
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Vince Russo
That's a no-brainer. And it was obviously a goof on Sting, but they had done up-in-the-air stunts before. Other than Shawn coming down the zipline at WM 12, there's the end of the Undertaker/Bossman match from 15 where not only was BBM "hung" from the cage, but Edge/Christian/Gangrel flying around like someone in a grade school production of "Peter Pan".
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Vince Russo
To get back on track here, I watched a video from Piper's RF interview where he talked about appearing on TNA and antagonizing Russo about "killing his cousin Owen". Looking back, Roddy had the best intentions to humiliate him but maybe going that far was a bit too much. Vince later said he was upset by it because Piper wasn't there and that he was good friends with Owen. Looking back at it, pre-accident it seemed like WWE had a hard-on for competing with what Sting was doing in WCW as far as doing crazy stuff from the ceiling. It wouldn't surprise me at all if that came from the other Vince.
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The WTF!?! Have they lost their minds?! thread
For some reason I always remembered during the build-up to Piper-Hogan, that it was a non-title match, just a one-time deal to "settle the score".
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[1994-01-03-WWF-Raw] Interview: Sparky Plugg
I saw a funny clip from a shoot he did yesterday. He told someone he was a pro wrestler but was tight-lipped when the person asked him his name. When he finally told him, Bob said the guy laughed like the interviewer did when he said "Sparky Plugg".
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[1994-02-26-WCW-Saturday Night] Vader vs Ricky Steamboat
That chop he did from the middle of the top rope was pretty sweet. And quite the feat if you consider he was already in the neighborhood of 40. A sad milestone though, because it was the last episode of Saturday Night before that ghastly set they used started. I preferred the old set, even then.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
I had this funny image in my head of Punk 30 years from now being the liberal equivalent of a Ted Nugent.