flyonthewall2983

We need to bring back no music entrances, not en masse but for certain people it just doesn’t work.

Going back to 1997-8, would the company have been better off putting the plans of Thunder into rejuvenating the Saturday Night slot instead?

I believe that if all the world knew him to be was just an actor, it surely would have been mentioned here by now that John Cena would be a perfect Vince

“fat comedy scat-monger” that’s a new one

It’s my understanding that TNT never got the kind of ratings again on Monday nights with original programming like they did with Nitro.

Best foot on the rope spot has to be Superstar Billy Graham winning the belt from Bruno

Mike Love delivering a sizzling heel promo https://youtu.be/oZSAQX2uuUY

I don’t know if the hiring freeze is still in effect, but either way I’m not very surprised given the Endeavor deal. The optics, which I imagine would be increasingly more scrutinized given that development, would perhaps not be in favor of the situation.

Who else is thinking that Endeavor will buy the show and either edit every episode, or just keep it from legally being sold while the entirety of the series is perpetually on YouTube , as it pretty much is anyway.

Agreed on the DDT but I think Ron Simmons had the better spinebuster I liked it better when it was a big man move, but I’ve come around on how it’s used now. Wardlow’s looks like Kevin Nash’s, which isn’t a compliment (the snake eyes was a better finisher for him).

The Rockers breaking up right as “Smells Like Teen Spirit” is first a hit is a point hardly ever made in the context of that Barber Shop segment.

Best arena (on television), MSG or Boston Garden for WWF and the Scope in Norfolk, Virginia for WCW comes to mind. For both companies, what’s now the Allstate Arena (formerly the Rosemont Horizon) in Chicago is an amazing building for wrestling. My brother was there when Punk won the WWE title and said it was the best in-arena experience he’s ever had.

Perfect

I liked the Headbangers wearing tour shirts as revolving attire, they weren’t alone by any means but I thought it was a nice gimmick. There’s a picture of Dusty in the 70’s wearing a Black Sabbath shirt, spotted in a Ric Flair shoot.

What comes to mind first is something I saw Tom Petty say in a documentary from about 20 years ago, comparing the state of rock music to wrestling in a way that made me think he held both in similar regard. On the other end of the spectrum I remember Roger Waters on a radio interview in the late 90’s, in tangent to what he felt about performers who don’t sing their own material, said it was like comparing sumo to “Wrestlemania”. Elvis worked the mid-south Coliseum as did infamously The Beatles a decade later after the “Bigger than Jesus” scandal. Led Zeppelin’s manager Peter Grant was a wrestler before switching to the music industry. And Jimmy Hart is a one hit wonder. It would be honestly cool if he did an album now. In my teens I had a guitar magazine phase and one of them had an article on wrestling, primarily interviewed was Bob Mould who discussed his relationship with WCW at the time. That was a bit of an eye opener, that wrestling could be enjoyed as an adult for its own merits and value as entertainment, but also the appreciation of the craft. Maybe the coolest episode of SNL is when the Rock hosted and AC/DC, Vince’s favorite band were the musical guests. The use of “Highway to Hell” to hype up that SummerSlam 98 main event is maybe the best sell for a match the company ever did.

Watched the original PRISM broadcast of his first match with Randy Savage, which might have been one of his last big matches before switching to the Wrestling Album theme. Such a perfect song for that character in that time, in New York City.

That’s basically what the guy in the WB cartoon says too

With Disney suing Ron DeSantis now, I wonder if him making WWE an “essential” business during the pandemic will be brought up if the case goes to court

I’ll have to check that book out sometime, I’ve seen a few interviews with Shamrock and he’s a fascinating guy.

11 years later and he’s still mauling jobbers

The episode of Tales from The Territories about Mid-South is about as close as we’ll get I imagine unless Bill himself agrees to do it.

This is said to be from the night after Bash at the Beach 2000

Reading Ringmaster has put so much in perspective for me about not just my own feelings about Vince, that of professional wrestling, or even that time in America and my own place in it. It was illuminating most in what we are willing to put up with for entertainment’s sake. I think the saddest moment ever televised is the time Roddy Piper went on TNA television to challenge Russo, about “his cousin Owen”. I loved Roddy from almost the first minute I saw him on WWF TV, when he came to WCW I was marking out so hard my body was shaking. He applied a passion to what he did that never failed and is only equaled by the things he believed and stood by. I haven’t watched the segment in a long time but just the place he was in at that moment, felt both like his last stand and a wasted opportunity. I kind of felt this at the time and more so now but I think Russo was more honorable in coming out and taking some of the static himself. But Rod should have known better, of all people, that the real sin his target that night was guilty of was sharing the same first name as the guy Piper really should have unloaded on.

This thread is more fun when we all hate on Vince than on each other