Victator

What are the matches from his peak run (lets say 84 to 91) where he did not work hard?

If it is effective, then clearly other people think it is good. The "Britney" argument sucks. Especially if you're using it on something that has proven to have long term appeal.

Arn was in his share of great matches. The matches with Tully vs the RnR Express, The Rockers, The Harts and Demolition. Matches with Barry Windham in 87, the Regal match at Superbrawl, if you can forgive the lack of Exploder suplexes and shooting star presses. He was a big part of the best Wargames matches. That is off the top of my head. I don't see a problem. Hogan at his peak was great, no one was better. Few guys were equal.

Wait, what? I have a hard time seeing how something other than great matches could be a better determinant of who a great worker is. If you want to argue that no one working in the US in the 90s had enough truly great matches for this to be a relevant consideration, I can see that. Otherwise, I think this is way off. Great matches give a limited picture of what is going on. Looking at the dusty middle innings gives a more accurate picture of a performer.

Maybe it could of gotten two stars if Arn had busted out his Space Flying Tiger Drop.

I think Arn/Regal from Superbrawl IV is better than anything Flair did in the 90s.

Don't see how the basic Kane gimmick is bad. Huge monster wearing a cool mask that is indestructible. The storylines around it were stupid. But the basic gimmick is Lord Humongus.

Not that Heyman is not two faced. But he has been cheerleading this angle on facebook and twitter.

Pretty poor demonstration. Punches were fine there. Of course not. http://drvictatorpresents.blogspot.com/ One match out of hundreds is suppose to prove someone is a bad wrestler. Vader and Davey Boy Smith had an awful dog collar match on a 1997 episode of Raw. Am I suppose to think they aren't great wrestlers? I don't recall laughing.

What the fuck? Have you seen a Sabu match. He does not have shitty punches. The list of guys who have outright better punches is very small.

Sabu always made the big spots matter. There was a progression in the high spots, so when he finally hit the big one it mattered and got a huge reaction. I'm curious where this bad brawling supposedly was. Sabu was one of the few guys who did crowd brawling correctly. More often than not it seemed like a fight. Rather than dragging a guy by his hair across the arena.

It was his first match in over a year and he was shaking off the ring rust. By March he was working as hard as ever.

Sting always worked hard. He may not of worked smart, but the effort was/is never in question.

Tony said he only applied as a formality. He had no real plans.

They did Punk/Del Rio the week before Summerslam.

A month after Macho Man passed away, I was watching the post WM 5 Prime Time. Savage starts berating Elisabeth and I wanted somebody to punch the son of a bitch. Now that is a great heel. Flair in the 80s is a guy I could be watching on TV and my mother or sisters just hearing it in the background would openly wish someone would kill him. To me those are the great heels. Guys who even if you know its not real, they make you want to shut them up.

Its funny I saw that video and was horrified when I thought I saw Bobby Eaton. Then when I realized it was Condrey I thought "Oh he looks alright."

I remember watching Flair in 2005 try to do his Luger match with Chris Masters. He nearly landed on his neck after each press slam and back drop. So I've been expecting him to get hurt like this. Sorry to see it happen.

We had to deal with that a bit on the Demolition Project. Lots of people were open to it. But there were a few like that.

Dusty was still booking during the Watts tenure. He just answered to Watts.

I like wrestler/match/storyline discussions. I think I could go the rest of my life without discussing backstage stuff and be happy.

Well at least Natalya ain't a snitch. Though funny it does not sound out of place for Melina.

They actually played that up at the PPV. That Lawler was Henry's first opponent in WWE.

Warrior was the one who pointed out Andre hating Savage. Saying if Andre hated him, there was no way in hell he would allowed Warrior to slam him every night. I think you can compare it to the Jake feud too. Where Andre did not give Jake shit in their matches. Compared to the Warrior feud.

The thing about that Savage/Andre match is its the only good one they had. For whatever reason Andre hated Savage and refused to sell for him or especially be pinned by him. A year later he's jobbing to Warrior in under a minute, so I think the story has merit. First Savage match in MSG is great.