Dylan Waco

Nakamura is almost as greatest hits as Brock in the top 100. I suspected both might happen, but I don't like either, and they are both guys that I really enjoy when they are on their A game. Also agree on Zayn. I don't hate the guy, but I don't see him as anything near a top 100 worker. Always thought the bulk of his indie work was good but overrated.

The amount of shit Taker has gotten in this thread amuses me. I didn't vote for him and didn't consider him THAT strongly, but he doesn't even rate as a "laughable" pick by any metric I would take seriously. I also don't think it's wrong to point out the inconsistency of cherry picking Taker's low points, when arguing that they don't matter for Flair or anyone else for that matter. Even with the debate about whether or not he has a real peak, it just feels like a "different rules, for different people" thing and triggers my "this is an injustice!" gene. I'd probably be more sympathetic to Parv's point if I thought Taker was consistently terrible, or if I thought Flair's run as an average or worse wrestler was really short, but I don't.

I didn't rank Taker, but I'd feel better about this thread if we could add GIFs of Kobashi's crocodile tears/overacting nonsense, and maybe a montage of his most egregiously unnecessary head drops.

I liked Ikeda but didn't rank him. Him Atlantis were probably the two most "emotional" rejections on my list in that my primary reason for not voting for them was that I just don't "feel" greatness in them. Actually that's not entirely true as Ikeda was great at times, but felt more like a flash in the pan in that regard than Ishikawa or Otsuka. That said I really do wonder if I would feel that way if I had never seen him work NOAH. Kerry is weird in that I agree that he doesn't look or feel out of place to me in the 90's, I agree that he's been unfairly maligned as a worker in some quarters, and there is an extent to where he feels like a good rep for the "footage explosion." That said he's also not an obscure figure like a Hoshino, or a guy who was wildly misrepresented like a Piper or Hayes. I didn't vote for him, and didn't even strongly consider him, in part because I was underwhelmed by World Class. That said he had great series' with Flair (though that Christmas night cage match sucks) and Lawler, and matches with guys like Hayes and even Jumbo that are legit great. He's not someone I can get really excited about seeing on the list, but I don't have a part of me that really sees him as a "bad" guy to make the top 100 either.

Colon finishing at 102 is worse to me than if he finished at 394 or something. I blame myself and wish I had ranked him higher even if it wouldn't have made a difference.

Most of my favorites didn't even make my top 100

This isn't just in response to you, but... They mean a whole hell of a lot. All of us are PWOers. All of us are likely in the top 1% of fans who are in the "know", meaning watch a variety of footage and dive into non-current stuff. I don't buy into the hivemind arguement at all, but you can't say there's not a "hivemind" and then complain that people have different opinions than the podcast host family. I like Bigelow. I like Malenko. Not as much as I used to, but they still made the second half of my list. That doesn't make my opinion less valid than someone who's discovered they "actually" are overrated. It's perfectly fine to complain about a favorite falling too early, but the random people complaining about lack of voter quality is totally bull. The podcast host family have radically different opinions on tons of stuff.

Both Hardys have already been revealed

Lucha dies another death. One thing I want to note that may not be clear to some people. While I find the final results interesting, the key thing for me with this project was that I would be happy with my ballot when all was said and done. Like everyone else I'll complain about the final results, but egotistical or not, the top 100 GWE to me is the ballot I submitted. As such I'm much more annoyed by minor things on my ballot I'd like to change than where HHH ended up, or the fact that lucha is getting hosed. I hope others can appreciate that the bitching and complaining in this thread is a fun part of the process for many of us, while also understanding that the collective results are naturally going to lead to these sort of responses.

Rest well Brother Blackwell. You climbed to great heights...and then fell off of them.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised Masami did so well. I think she's better than some of the women who will rate ahead of her, but I expected to see her name drop a long time ago. Damn good worker for a long time.

Peace out Takada. It was a good run.

Tanahashi will. Okada has had a very short career by comparison.

Tanahashi shows vulnerability and can build his matches around his opponents when he wants to. He has more strengths than HHH, and more individual performances that I'd rate. Okada is basically the Japanese Randy Orton to me.

Tanahashi is way better than HHH.

Okada falls. Thank god.

Lucha was hurt because people didn't rally around specific candidates. Just like with the WON HOF ballots we all have the guys we support, and there is only a handful of guys who are consensus favorites among lucha's biggest advocates.

He likely wouldn't make my top 1000 so no chance of me being happy with any result for him

Like Trump, HHH is winning off the back of anonymous voters, those who begrudgingly voted for him, and those who give extra points for celebrity. Bow down to the king.

Shame to see Kandori out before Brock, as they have loosely similar resumes, very similar vibes, and yet I think Kandori was a much better a candidate. At this point I kind of expect Brock to finish top 50 which I would see as pretty laughable.

I'm actually surprised Brody's average vote wasn't lower. Brody over Sabu bothers me more than it probably should. Up until the last week I knew the vast majority of voters. Would be interesting to know after this is all said and done how radical the shift in placement that last week was for certain guys though that may be impossible to get at. Smothers and Hardy falling sucks but they landed right around where I expected them too. Terry falling hurts more because of the DOA nature of Lucha as a whole in the final results. I think 141 will be Colon

My memory of Taker v. Shawn two is that it was carried by Taker's selling, but I havent' seen it in years.

It isn't a troll pick

I literally came into this thread to argue that I think what hurt Yatsu the most was the absence of really any jump off the page singles match. Damn elliot beat me to it.

HHH as Trump analogy becoming increasingly accurate.