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It should always be remembered that the Alvarado family (La Mascara and Maximo) got fired from CMLL for trashing Ultimo Gurterro's car because they felt he stole leadership of the wrestler's union from the family. While that was certainly not the best way to handled the situation, it's a sign that Gurrerro's been the source of a lot of issues within CMLL.

It has to have some kind of audience or else people would stop doing it, right? It's not my jam but it seems like the shows that feature it get enough of a crowd to keep doing it so I chalk it up to "if it works, it works, but I don't have to like it".

I'm just reminded of Paul Heyman being so grossed out after the Sabu/Terry Funk barb wire match where Sabu got his arm torn up and glued it together mid-match. that he vowed to never have another barb wire match in ECW again (and he didn't) because he couldn't ask anyone to do that in good conscience. That match would be considered relatively tame by today's deathmatch standards.

Jim may get mad at Dave for mentioning it, but he does act a lot like Trump and his fans act an awful lot like MAGA loonies who go after anyone who says a bad word about their dear leader. The reason Dave would make those comparisons was to point out the irony of how even though they are opposites politically, Jim does act very similar to him at times. Case in point, everyone who disagrees with him gets some sort of disparaging nickname and he takes everything as a personal slight. To be fair, I've long believed Dave is on the spectrum (even more so since raising my son who is also on it) and I honestly believe Dave thinks Jim is working and doesn't get the social clues being sent that say the opposite. I know that is an unpopular statement since people use that as a slur to attack someone a lot on the internet, but the infatuation with numbers/getting stuck on minor points and going on tangents about them/his obsessive work ethic....to me it's all telltale signs that if taken that way explain a lot about how he acts/behaves. Both men at this point would be better suited just never mentioning the other's name, but both guys being who they are that isn't likely to happen.

WWE: where you can never give the fans what they want or send them home happy.

That finish was fantastic, gotta give them that.

There is something poetic about NXT getting wiped out because Vince's age/body boners returned with a vengeance, and Raw is main evented by two guys on the short end of their 40s with average (for Vince standards) bodies.

Funny thing, SRS said earlier tonight was supposed to be the return of the Fiend before....well you know.

Also holy shit is the WWE makeup team bad at their job, Charlotte looks older than Ric in that interview.

An Elias repackaging was clearly the spark WWE was missing...

Love how Nikki Cross's character is just ALMOST a superhero so they're basically saying she's still a jobber with delusions of grandeur.

The problem with WWE's strategy is while of course it's more in line with what Vince is historically comfortable, but wrestling fans have moved past that decades ago. No one is going to be impressed by big tall muscle men that can't wrestle for shit. So Vince can wrap himself in his security blanket of living like it's still 1985, and any wrestler fans actually want to see can find success in AEW/ROH/Impact/MLW/NWA/whoever else pops up.

I mean..... I never looked at Sheik, or Abdullah, or if we want a more modern comp someone like Nick Gage and think "well that just doesn't look credible". My thoughts were more like "he just stabbed a motherfucker".

Funny thing, I'd imagine the people who would be directly involved in hiring her like Vince and Bruce would be aware of her rep.

NXT finally signed her? Well I suppose if you're going to blow the place up tossing in one extra grenade won't matter much.

So apparently Michael Elgin posted a video on YouTube suggesting self harm/suicide, and then complaining that it getting little views are another reason he might do it. Like, I do legit hope he gets some help as he's clearly dealing with some mental issues and those are a bitch sometimes, but also fuck that guy for being such a manipulative shitbag. The stuff listed on the restraining order against him was heinous, and for him to be doing things to make himself the victim when he's finally somewhat dealing with the consequences of being a shitty person is some real emotional abuser garbage.

NXT became noticeably more WWE-like once it was clear they were going to be the hammer used to beat down AEW. A lot of what drew people to NXT in the first place was taken away, and of course a lot of the reason was they were the in-house alternative to Raw/SD and someone came along that did it better.

It's not surprising, no, but the funny part is back in the 80s people would push back on his ideas and you know in the 'Tude Era Russo wasn't just blindly going along with everything, it's really only been in the last 20 years no-real-competition era where Vince has completely cut himself off from anyone not just a 100% yes man. I'm sure it's not a coincidence that the product has been on a rocket ship to bland sameness since then.

It is interesting to see Vince's response to AEW (that the fans have clearly showed they prefer to NXT), is to make it like the 80s WWF all over again. I wonder if it ever dawns on him that the precise reason AEW kicked NXT's ass is that they were offering something new and different rather than the same old formula. People were tired of only having pro wrestling as seen through the lens of a guy in his 70s with a muscle fetish and narrow views on who could be "allowed" to be a star. Dave made a point to mention Bruce isn't there to offer any new ideas, just to make sure what Vince wants gets carried out. The whole system seems to be built around making sure Vince's ideas never get challenged until it creates an "Emperor's New Clothes" situation where everyone in Vince's inner circle is just sitting there pretending his balls aren't out there waving in the breeze.

I'm mostly surprised Kevin even knows NXT exists. As much as I enjoy the in ring on NXT, the production is awful. The graphics/music come off like some emo kid's nu metal blog from the early 2000s. I do like Vic and Wade announcing. Beth still comes off like her chair is constantly sending electrical shocks though.

Well her fiancée is there and her dad will probably show up there at some point. Makes sense she would want to join them. Funny thing is Ric ended his podcast because he didn't want it to create a situation where he said something that affected Charlotte's career, him going to AEW would probably piss Vince off more than anything that would happen on a podcast.

Another interesting tidbit was that Andrade is telling people he wants his whole family, meaning Rush/Dragon Lee/Beastia as well as Ric and Charlotte, to join him in AEW at some point.

So listening to the morning WON show, Dave is mentioning how he doesn't expect a lot of people in WWE to leave for AEW since apparently a lot of people in WWE are brainwashed that AEW is actually not good and all the sellouts are fake because Tony Khan buys all the tickets.

I get the impression Cole has more of a chance than people realize since apparently HBK is really high on him, something like he thinks Cole is this era's version of himself. Vince has always had an unexplainable soft spot for Shawn so he might give a guy he's lobbying for more of a chance than he normally would.

Dave often talks about the difference between someone winning a match and someone getting put over. WCW was full of examples of guys winning matches but not getting put over, Cody was able to make the people he faces look like a million bucks even in losing, which made them a bigger deal in the fans's eyes when they got their big wins.