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The other Tom Magee matches were so bad (the AJPW one with Wajima is apparently legendarily bad), that this one being good enough to pop a TV taping crowd in a dark match showed how good Bret really was years before everyone knew it. What really struck me is how 1986 WWF saw someone they thought had potential, had him work off TV, and even when it started to be clear he needed a lot of work they still kept him on C shows giving him every opportunity to catch on. 2019 WWE sees someone who has potential, puts them on TV whether they are ready or not, and jobs them out within a month or two making sure the audience never sees them as anything but a midlevel talent at best.

FIrefly Fun House continuing to be the only thing worth a damn on this show.

Man they just can't stop with the Roman stuff, they're going to end up getting a cancer survivor getting booed because they just can't help themselves.

Gorilla especially seemed to think it was a ref screw up since Wendi's shoulder was up barely at the 2 count but he kept going. It was funny to hear them clearly not know what was going on and either figure it out gradually or most likely someone told them over the headset.

Silver King was so good, Hijo del Santo had him be the one helping break his son into the business. If you only ever saw him in WCW, you need to check out his work in Mexico with Texano as the Cowboys, and him as Black Tiger in Japan. Also he was Ramses, the villain from the Nacho Libre movie which was one of those "win a drink at the bar" trivia questions. I always thought of him as a lucha version of Owen Hart, a really talented guy overshadowed by a more famous brother. Never expected that comparison to be so apt though.

The official word is that he had a heart attack. It could end up being one of those things where it didn't matter how quickly help arrived, but it's not a good look to have folks just standing around with someone in obvious distress.

Luchadores work far more dates than pretty much anywhere else in the world, the wear and tear tends to catch up with them faster.

Holy shit, cubsfan just confirmed Silver King passed away.

Looks like he hit Juvi with a clothesline, and when he went down to pin him something happened and his body shut down. Seemed to take an awful long time for help to arrive on the scene, maybe they thought it was part of the show?

Silver King is wrestling Juvi on a show in the UK, and apparently he collapsed during the match and needed CPR performed. *edited title to reflect updated situation

Yeah there's no way anyone wouldn't know it was Moolah in the ring that night. The Spider Lady costume wasn't exactly flattering and there was no one else it could have been based on the body type. What I never understood is Vince corners her before the match and demands she sign a new contract basically sight unseen, and then she gets to the ring and sees it's a different person in the Spider Lady suit and it's clearly Moolah. How does she not figure that shit's about to go down?

I'm like, 65% convinced Herodes is Vince's PWO account at this point.

It's a dick move, but it's not like this is something that is going to kill off Starrcast. Besides, it is WWE footage after all, it's like the people who upload stuff on YouTube and get their channels owned by WWE. It's a dick move that they have the right to do, and you can't be surprised when it happens.

That was kind of the thought I had, like the people she had heat with were low key worried Vince would love it since that's the exact drop-your-dick-on-the-table Alpha shit he pops for.

The impression I got was that he was saying Gino was super paranoid from hanging around dealers and ended up accidentally OD'ing, and that it wasn't anyone putting a hit out or any other kind of foul play.

Fritz wins after both guys get counted as down and Fritz ends up being the first to get up. So I guess that's technically a clean job by Texas Death Match rules?

The anonymous source who basically said Gino was involved in dealing and that led to is paranoia increasing leading to his OD seems to put a bow on things except for one thing: the vast amount of coke in his system. It's hard to understate how much we're talking about if the folks doing the autopsy were amazed by the amount, and this was Dallas in the 80s when Scarface was seen as an educational video. Bix seems to think there's something to the "Jack Royal gave Gino bad coke that killed him" based on his recent tweets, but at the levels he had in his system one would think it wouldn't matter at that point if it's the bad stuff or not.

It's a very Vince-like mindset to dismiss something that has proven to get over and be a draw as "go nowhere".

Considering the attendance they have so far this year, every ROH show from last year.

You say that, yet WWE would kill for any of their guys to be over with their crowds as The Bucks or Omega are with AEW crowds.

To think WWE had both those guys under contract, they pitched doing this angle to them (probably very similar to how they are doing it now) and WWE was like "nah, we pass". Now granted Cody was still a midcard nobody who didn't have a few years to wash the Stardust stink off him, but if AEW turns into something people will probably look back at this like how people look at WCW having Taker, Austin, and Foley under contract and doing nothing with them.

I'm not saying I don't do it sometimes too, but we need to train ourselves not to use "pro wrestling" when we really mean to say WWE. I know it gets the dummies going all "HURR DURR FIVE STARS IN THE DOME AMIRTE" to Dave, but New Japan really does do some strong storytelling. There's tons of examples in the indies that do as well. We shouldn't paint the whole business with a broad brush because WWE sucks at it.

I assumed he was taking a break since it was documented when he re-signed that he had more time off in his new deal. I was making a joke about how he's been far and away the MVP of the company on promo ability.

Man, I wonder if the injury that Bryan had that kept him out after Mania was his back from carrying this whole goddamn show for so long.

Honestly I assumed it was just because Bryan probably is not going to go to the Saudi show like he didn't go to the previous one, and they wanted the belt on someone else for that time.