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Like I said before: when you train your fans not to care, don't get mad at them when they end up not caring.

Big E and Woods jamming out to Seth's music was the high point of Raw yesterday.

Maybe it's something only Sasha saw, who knows? My point is knowing how the business and particularly this company tend to be, she deserves a little more benefit of the doubt than assuming the default explanation is "bitches be tripping" when something goes on.

It would depend on the nature of the incident though, wouldn't it? If she flipped out over the wrong kind of bottled water in catering, then yes she's immature. If someone was backstage flopping their junk, then maybe it's not on her.

Maybe not putting talented cruiserweights on a lightly watched ghetto of a show so people will care when they are given a spot on a big show like that? You can't train people not to care then get mad when the people don't care.

It's really impressive how WWE has been able to flip the discussion completely. In the 90s, fans rejected the vision the company had for Blue Chipper Rocky and they used that as the motivation to make him a superstar. Now if the same thing happened today, we'd get people on the internet saying fans should just shut up and enjoy the show. The business used to be based on listening to the feedback from your paying customers and adjusting accordingly for maximum financial impact. Now WWE doesn't need to cater to the fans thanks to Fox Sports and MBS so now the fans are an annoyance who don't play their parts correctly.

Yeah, they got LARS showing up and Sami returning only for the main event run in to be The Bar. It seemed to be building up at the very least the start of a new program for one of the guys in the match, only to get a team the New Day has faced off with hundreds of times.

I think people were more happy Brock lost it than happy Seth won it. Plus folks tend to be negative on Sheamus since he's injured folks in the past (no one recently, but idk if there's a statute of limitation on being mad at someone about that). But somehow, he got over with the Burn It Down stuff, so I can't fault them for going with the guy. If history is any indication, once the afterglow of having a Universal champ that's actually around every week wears off I think crowds will tire of Seth.

I saw it as the crowd rejecting guys who are a mid card act on SD going above their pay grade interrupting a match between the two singles champs.

LOL @ everyone here being all "fuck wrestling fans". I'm sure they weren't expecting a title unification, but that doesn't mean they should be happy to have the fucking Bar be the ones to interrupt. It was a wet fart of an ending to what was one of the better Raws in recent memory.

Oh look, another "guy as Vince's mouthpiece" gimmick.

SAMI

They are promoting Kofi's celebration on Smackdown tomorrow.

Well I certainly didn't expect the payoff to all the Lacey stuff to be her punching Becky in the face.

Probably, they've already established Cena is immune to the Superstar Shakeup and just goes wherever he wants, so I assume he follows Lars.

Lars looks like a guy who would have had a big money program against Bruno in the 70s.

I doubt there will be a finish, someone's debuting/coming back/starting a program here.

To be fair he is probably the best at the style Vince wants.

That promo for next year's WM reminded me there's a full Pirate Ship in Tampa's stadium and now my mind is boggling at the ways WWE will make use of that.

Oh Hi Charles!

More impressive: Bryan getting a whole stadium to boo him after being the fans' darling, or "You Deserve It" chants for a guy who broke up the Shield and was the face of the Authority. They're actually both astounding in their own ways.

I was thinking the same thing. I know all the cool kids hate Cole (and certainly not without reason) but dude put in more time at work than anyone last night. Dude should be able to spend a vacation day after that.

Just imagine if Shawn's shoulders were up when Austin beat him at Mania to set up a rematch with someone with no set return date. Which come to think about it, is amazing that it didn't happen that way considering Shawn's views on losing cleanly.

Yeah it seemed pretty clear he was referring to Heyman as the one adamant that Ronda shouldn't tap, which I actually agree with. She's obviously the type that would rather get KTFO than tap in a real fight, so her tapping in pro wrestling wouldn't make sense. The story of "she never had to deal with pins in Judo or MMA so she could get caught in a flash pin situation in wrestling" works better, that is until what happened. Whatever the real details are, when it happened my first thought was Becky just got Sting'd by Ronda's Hulk Hogan.

I don't know if I've ever seen a crowd want someone to win as badly as they did for Kofi.