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The angle with Cena/Orton/Cena Sr. was a straight up old school babyface heat gainer for Cena but the crowd was still overwhelmingly pro Orton. That's got to either be overestimated on Dave's part or proof that people are booing Cena for the sake of booing him. You'd think Memphis fans of all places would have ate that up. Why put Taker in with Henry for his return match? You know you aren't going to get a ***** match from a guy coming back from injury, why put him in a match that is guaranteed to suck?

Probably they require anyone who asks for help to join the Kiss My Ass Club first.

I'm not a finance wizard, but wouldn't it raise red flags in the sense of a publicly traded company inflating numbers used to calculate income? I mean, attendance X ticket price = total gate. SEC types would pay attention to that, right? Most people in wrestling know attendance numbers are exaggerated, but is Joe Stockbuyer supposed to know that? Wouldn't it be theoretically possible for someone who owns stock to make the claim they bought it on false pretenses if they found out that most (if not all) shows have exaggerated attendance totals? Yes, it's not breaking laws, but it's not quite how a traded company is expected to behave.

So I have the New Mexico-Arizona game on as background noise, and when they throw to the sideline reporter I hear a voice that sounds familiar. I turn around and I see SEAN F'N MOONEY on my TV for the first time in like 20 years.

The WO update for today mentioned the battle royale at the next TNA ppv would crown the first women's champion. Why is TNA creating a women's title when they fail at booking the men's ones?

It also ended up leading to his dismissal from WWE from painkillers if I recall the timeline correctly.

Joey Mercury?

I get the feeling she did make that advertisement and then changed her mind when she started getting replies from wrestling fans who wanted to play "Chris and Nancy".

Man, it's hella creepy watching Vengeance and hear the announcers talk about the "late" Mr. McMahon and the plans for a 3 hour Very Special RAW considering what was going on probably at the exact same time.

It would almost make sense if it was a WWE PPV, where a payoff could make someone consider wagering an eye, but he's doing to for a PPV designed to garner more DVD sales.

After watching Bruce Hart stomp Dynamite's face until his nose bled, I can only surmise they must have been having a dispute over ring rats or coke money.

That's pretty funny. I wonder what website they're monitoring where that was discussed and thought, "Oh shit... pull that quick!" Too bad someone didn't grab all of it. John WO.com maybe?

Well, in fairness, he did invent steroids. You can't blame a guy for trying to push his stuff on potential customers. Kind of makes you wonder if the whole Simon System gimmick was some elaborate rib on WWE's part. Like the 00's version of Python Powder.

I see what you did there, preemptively removing the main source of the pro wres news from the equation. you........you're good, you Niro>

Also Mike Bucci/Nova/Simon Dean was fired for encouraging young wrestlers looking to get hired by WWE to do steroids (among other things that pissed off backstage people).

He tested positive for painkillers and his prescription had expired. It was a repeat offense and he was already in rehab once, so they cut ties. He showed up to the 9/1 show in Cincy, was told he was let go, and then escorted out of the arena.

OK so someone explain to me why Paul Wight, who had hormones causing his body to grow wildly out of proportion naturally, would need to take any form of steroids. Was being 7 feet tall and 450 pounds not enough?

Reading the latest WON and finding out the details of Nick Dinsmore's release, am I wrong for picturing Nick being led out of the arena in his Superman PJs ?

No one is saying Flair has to be in a TLC match, what's wrong with at least one more WM payday before he hangs it up? Doesn't 30+ in the biz warrant that much at least? I think what bothers me the most is how HHH threw his alleged idol under the bus. I mean, obviously you can argue if he's right or not, but you'd think he'd at least try to work something out for the guy rather than flat out denying his program like that. *edit* to clarify, I mean it bothers me in a "what does anyone have to lose by it" sense. It's just striking me as petty they won't let the guy have his moment but we had to endure the Mick Foley Retirement Tour.

Cokehead? I thought Flair had a drinking problem. They aren't mutually exclusive I guess. By the way, I'm not suggesting he get a Jesus Push and a yearlong title run, I just thought his status would merit him a little more respect on the way out than what the average fast food worker gets.

So, what, if Flair was a former military dude it would make pushing him okay? It's pro mother-effing wrestling, which is practically defined by things happening within its confines that wouldn't/couldn't happen outside of it. Having Flair be the crafty old man who uses his experience and cheating acumen to pull one over on the young whippersnappers who felt they would just run over this old dude would be pretty awesome. Plus, previous times they teased giving Flair a push the crowds seemed to be into it, but WWE always has that hang up over not giving the crowd what they want if they weren't told by the company to want it first.

There's ways it can be done. Especially when said 58 year old is pushed as a master of cheating. It can be good business if WWE puts its mind to it, but it's apparent that they don't want to. The "old guy going back for one last chance" is one of the best stories in all of sports. Look at Randy Couture in MMA. He's not as old as Flair of course, but he also competes in a legitimate sport as well.

I was reading the thread over at DVDVR and it occurred to me: Is there anything that exemplifies pro wrestling more than having arguably the greatest in-ring performer of all time go from getting one last hurrah to being pushed aside to the point of him apparently quitting out of frustration. Not to mention having HHH, who's supposed to be the biggest Flair mark ever, play a role by saying having Flair go over people at his age would be a "credibility issue". As if that was the biggest thing to strain the company credibility right now. I mean, it's not like wrestling has the advantage of being worked so that they can script almost anything to plausible degree. I mean, if it was a Goldberg-like push then I'd kind of agree with HHH, but I think it's not that much of a stretch to think a 30 year vet and multiple time World Champ might just be able to outfox the youngin's. It's almost like Hunter has something against older wrestlers, as one of the reasons he wanted his match with Booker to be more one sided was because he felt the Booker/Lawler match on RAW was too even. What's so wrong about allowing Flair to go out on top? Just once it would be nice to see someone ride off in the sunset on a positive note instead of as a loser like most guys seem to.

I think Mad Dog hit on it , Tiger Mask was the dude people watched on TV and thought "wow, this is pretty awesome, I want to do that". I guess it's up there with "Vince brought wrestling out of smoke-filled arenas" thing in terms of urban legends people just accept as true.

Isn't Tiger Mask retroactively credited with bringing high flying to every country?