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People need to get over the irrational Henry hate. They guy's shown improvement, and he's had some good matches in the last couple weeks. He'll never be Lou Thesz but he's not the Shockmaster either.

In fact, after Jeter turned heel in OVW, Burke delivered an awesome promo basically promising to kill Jeter for what he did and the crowd went batshit for it.

I watched the Akebono tag match from the most recent NOAH show, and I thought he was pretty good for a superheavyweight. Everyone seems to be pretty down on him but I thought he was alright for someone who's basically the real Yokozuna (literally and gimmick wise).

Wasn't HBK working through a knee injury right around the time he started back full time again? I don't think he ever got it repaired, and it could be what Dave's talking about now. I agree 100% with his opinion on the Spirit Squad. I actually thought their debut was pretty funny (WHEN COACH ROCKS THE HOUSE!) but anyone who's watched OVW since Heyman took over knows what a waste of Johnny Jeter this is. His gimmick in OVW was basically Shawn Michaels at the height of his dick heel mode, and now he's another generic short haired WWE newbie in a group that all looks the same. I wish Elijah Burke would have taken the gimmick since it probably would have spared one of the guys in it now, and it would have added a bit of visual comedy seeing a black guy in a group with a bunch of preppy looking white boys.

I get that Graham should have been prepared to lose the belt when he was told, but Vince Sr was dumb for not seeing the potential in him. I don't know if he didn't "get" what Superstar was doing, but there was no reason why he couldn't have turned him face.

I just hope WWE gives us a Finlay-Regal matchup. I remember thinking their one WCW match was a shoot because of how they were just beating the piss out of each other.

I just finished watching the DVD, and while it was a really good illustration of Graham's career, there were several things that bugged me: 1. It's getting annoying to see Vince being praised like the next Jesus on *every* DVD they make. OK, he's the boss and he made WWE what it is today, but can they make one tribute to an ex superstar without having a whole segment devoted to how Vince's tears cure cancer. 2. They completely threw Superstar under the bus for the whole steroid trial mess. The feds were looking at Vince for a while and while Graham's lawsuit opened the door they were going to go after Vince no matter what. It was also disgusting to hear them cast doubt on the effects of steroids when this was the first DVD released after Eddie's death. 3. Vince is obviously a huge mark for Superstar. Someone (JR?) said Graham was the model that Vince wanted all his wrestlers to look like, and that would explain why Vince would forgive a guy he seems to put all the blame for being put on trial. 4. HHH needs to shut up. I hate how he's always the biggest fan of whoever the DVD's about. I had to watch WM XII afterwards just to see him get squished by Warrior. 5. It seemed kinda sad to see first how Superstar wanted to turn face and have a longer run as champ (which Vince agreed later would have been huge), only to have the rug pulled out from him because Vince Sr. wanted to go back to the All American Babyface champ. Not only did it send him down a spiral, he ended up having to crawl back to Vince since he was basically broke and his medical problems were piling up. Now it seemed they were using him as a punching bag and he had to agree with whatever was being said since if there's anyone who couldn't afford to lose his Legends deal it's him.

I hope you were being sarcastic and not thinking that someone should expect a side of hep with their tattoos. Vince is lucky that of all people for this to happen to, it was Taker. Anyone else would own the company.

I would venture that the People's Elbow was probably both the most over and most ridiculous move in wrestling at the same time. He never won a match with it, so I could live with it. Being a wrestling fan is all about knowing when to let shit slide for the greater good of getting over with the crowd.

Hopefully he'll make a sarcastic remark about Jericho's ability to put asses in seats.

Also, if TNA were to go under I guarantee you'd see WWE signing Jarrett just to give him an updated version of Dusty's polka dot gimmick. Vince can't let the sin of daring to compete with him go unpunished.

I would think that signing Sting and then (apparently) at least talking to other big names would give a signal that JJ's days on top may be numbered. I don't think Spike and Panda want to see the money they invested going towards more jobs for Double J.

The funny thing is this thread is the first time I've heard about it. There was a huge thread at DVDVR about how the move was silly because of the level of parcipitation needed from the person taking the move.

Every one I've seen the guy's head was really nowhere near hitting the mat. I don't think the move's as dangerous as it looks. Besides, Stan Hansen broke Bruno's neck by fucking up a body slam, so any move can be potentially dangerous.

What's the deal with people hating the Canadian Destroyer? Sure, it's not something you could do in a real fight, but the majority of moves in wrestling require co-operation from both parties. I don't get why there's such a hatred for it.

It's almost at the point where keeping Joe out of the main event is a Verne-not-making-Hogan-AWA-champ level blunder.

A little of both. Obviously Eddie's going to get more out of a guy than most, but JBL wasn't just a broomstick out there. I don't know what it is about JBL that makes some people act like he stole their lunch money while raping their mothers. The guy's improved a lot, there's nothing wrong with admitting that.

Looking at the buyrates, doesn't seem like anything is drawing other than the Big 4 PPVs which are pretty much on name value. JBL really stepped it up during his title reign, his promos are top notch and he's turned into quite the capable brawler. His match with Eddie at Judgement Day has become a modern-day classic in terms of brawls.

Bossman was way better than he gets credit for, especially after he dropped a lot of weight. Alas, he was a big guy and conventional wisdom says Big Guys Can't Work so pointing out someone like Bossman would probably get you laughed at in most places.

Condsidering the state of tag team wrestling these days, MNM might just be the closest thing we get to Tully and Arn for a long time.

How have they attempted to ruin Smackdown? I know they moved it to Friday nights but that's there prerogative. That it is, but I know I'm not the only one who gave up on the show completely at least in part because of the change. Letting rumors leak out about you maybe not wanting Smackdown was pretty bad. But I can't blame them with how the WWF has thrown Smackdown under a train compared to Raw. 1. Switching Cena for Batista when Cena was catching fire with the fans. 2. Moving most of the quality in ring workers to Raw at the expense of Smackdown for most of the time they've both been in existance. 3. Promising that Smackdown! would be the cleaner and less controversial show to advertisers, and going back on that promise. 4. Building the show around the Rock, then not having the Rock. And everytime someone was given a choice of where to go (Austin, Batista initially) they always chose Raw. 5. Making sure the women that could wrestle were on Raw, and Smackdown would get the second rate chicks. 6. Having JBL as their fucking World Champ for damn near a year. 7. Continuing to unabashedly treat Raw as the flagship show and making sure Raw had the major events. Example: Eddie's memorial show being on Raw, in spite of Eddie being a Smackdown! wrestler. 8. Always giving Smackdown! short shift on joint pay-per-views (their World Title matches always appearing in a worse position on the cards, etc.) I agree with most of your points, except for the needless JBL bashing. He proved himself to be a worthy champ, certainly better than the guy who beat him (Cena). The Eddie thing's not fair either, he died on a Sunday and it's not WWE's fault that Raw comes on before Smackdown. There were SD guys on the Raw show, so it's not like they were completely shut out or as if they didn't have their own tribute show the same week.

I remember that Vince wouldn't let PWI photographers ringside at WWF events. Their pics for Hogan-Warrior were all wide angle shots because their guy literally had to buy a ticket to WM to even get in the building. I find it hilarious that all these years later, WWF Magazine got turned into RAW Magazine and is pretty much a waste of paper these days and PWI is still plugging along.

copycat!

I wonder if Inoki's going senile or is he just like Jon Lovitz's habitual liar character from 80s SNL. His tall tales are starting to get hilarious.

I know, Vince still has sex with Linda, who'da thunk it?