JerryvonKramer

It's just a principle for me, not what happens in the end result. If you make a deal with a promotion I don't see why it needs to be renogtiated if the booker changes. Put it this way, imagine Bill Watts makes a deal with Vince Sr to bring in Andre for a month, DiBiase going up to New York for the same month. Buck Robley is Watts's booker. Watts fires him. Is the deal off or is it still happening? I don't really see Watts even bothering to ring Vince Sr up, if they shook on it, it's happening. That's the way those guys were. Bookers come and go, but promises are kept. That's really where I am with this. I know fully well that whoever takes over is probably going to be cool but I don't even like the theoretical possibllity of deals being broken just because the booker changed. Think it is plain wrong as a basic position.

The way I read it Central States is being dissolved and handed over to WWA? Look I'm sorry, but my plans being affected because essentially someone is too busy too take part is not something I can run with. if I make a deal with a promotion I expect that to be binding not dropped the second something happens to affect it, that's just pretty unrealistic if nothing else. Imagine I signed a contract with CS, what's Bob Giegel dropping dead got to do with it? Whoever takes over has to honour the contract. I'm not really cool with this "oh it's a risk contingency" deal. It's only been four weeks, how can you even plan a month of booking if you create a world that unstable? BS, and I'm out if that's the way it is running.

This awesome playlist of Bockwinkel and Heenan promos with Okerlund doing the interviews: One of the great three-way acts on screen, tremendous chemistry (although Blackjack Lanza is often standing there too). Okerlund's timing and facial expressions are perfect. Heenan is generally a bit more irate than he would be in WWF. The AWA Heenan seemed to shout a lot more than the WWF Heenan. He has less of the con-artist about him, and is a bit more serious in general. I probably opt for the WWF Heenan over this incarnation, but both are gold.

Note that I had an ongoing deal with Central States whereby he got use of Heenan and I get use of Bock. Since Bock is my champion currently, I wouldn't be very amused if this had a bearing in any way on my plans. Same deal as Mid-South only to the power of ten. This is one aspect of the process I have literally no time for. It's cool for people to drop out etc., but I'm not having such things affect what I'm doing and if they do, I'm off too. Simple as that. I'm not booking around stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with goings on in the "in-game" world.

John Tolos

WWF at The Meadowlands, East Rutherford, NJ Jul 26th, 1983 Gorilla Monsoon is your host. Gary Michael Cappetta with the introductions. SD Jones vs. Baron Mikel Scicluna Match: SD Jones defeats Baron Scicluna with an atomic drop in 12:33. During the match Scicluna constantly hid a foreign object down his tights. Quotation(s) from announcer: “SD Jones here, trying to regain his mojo after a disappointing few weeks for the man from Trinidad”. Andre the Giant vs. The Destroyer Match: Andre pins The Destroyer in 7:43 after a headlock takeover that hit with real force. During the match Andre proved too big and strong for Destroyer’s attempts at arm work. Quotation(s) from announcer: “Andre the Giant does it again, and The Destoyer ain’t no slouch, but Andre is no ordinary human being.” Jack and Jerry Brisco © vs. Lars and Ole Anderson for the WWF Tag Team Championship Match: Jack Brisco pinned Lars Anderson in 14:32 with a splash after hitting a butterfly suplex. The match started with Lars and Ole jumping Jerry isolating him with severe clubbing blows and kicks. The match was worked at a fast pace. Jack Brisco was not able to receive the “hot tag” from his brother until the 12 minute mark, but made short work of Lars thereafter. Quotation(s) from announcer: “No sign of Gene or Arn tonight, you gotta wonder how they work out who turns up in the Anderson family” “Jerry Brisco has a lot of heart but he really shouldn’t be in the ring if you ask me. The man is clearly still injured.” “Jack Brisco is an incredible wrestler, so much experience and ring smarts, but what can he do if he’s on the wrong side of that apron?” “THE BRISCOS, retain the tag titles! And Ole Anderson’s plans are foiled yet again.” An interview now by Gorilla Monsoon with Bobby Heenan Monsoon: Bobby Heenan! What is the meaning of tonight’s match-up? First of all, how can you be wrestling … your own client? Second of all, how can anyone believe that YOU are the number one contender for the title. Heenan: I beg your pardon? I am a very fine wrestler thank you very much, I have over 20 years’ experience in the ring. I have more up here than the likes of you, Monsoon ever had. See, for a man like you – a big boned man like you – wrestling was probably a piece of cake, I mean you ate a lot of cake sure, like you always eat those hot dogs – but you never had to train or think about what you were doing being over 400lbs. Monsoon: I did train very hard you … WEASEL. I was on the Olympic team. Heenan *checking his watch and yawning* Monsoon: What are you … ? Heenan: Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t realise I was at an old-timer’s convention. Monsoon: You still haven’t answered the key issue here, how why are you taking on your own man, Nick Bockwinkel – your MEAL TICKET – for the WWF title? Heenan: I have been training extensively and am recognised around the world as a top contender for the title. How can anyone think otherwise? In the interests of … good sporting competition, and in his very good grace, Bockwinkel accepted the match. Monsoon: I smell a rat! Heenan: You have such little faith, Monsoon. I’ve been studying the tapes and working very hard to get up to the level required for this momentous match. Monsoon: Have you even had a match this … YEAR? I haven’t seen you in that ring since you turned up. Heenan: I didn’t want for all of these people to see what skills I’ve got. So they can be surprised when I bring my advanced tactics to the ring. Monsoon: So for the last time, this match tonight for the title is on the level? Heenan (looking incredibly shifty): 100% Monsoon, would you expect anything less? Monsoon: Well if you ask me, Heenan, you should be locked up and in jail. I saw what you and the champion did to Kal Rudman in Philadelphia. Heenan: Well, he stuck his nose where it wasn’t wanted and I have to protect my business interests. I’m a business man. I’m a professional. I protect the interests of my clinets! Monsoon: Protect their interests by facing them in matches and trying to take their titles? Heenan: You are twisting my words now. Monsoon: What about Bob Backlund? He hasn’t been given a single rematch ever since … YOU and that crony of yours Lanza screwed him out of the title. When is he ever going to get a rematch? Heenan: Monsoon … Monsoon: What? Heenan: You’re forgetting I might be champion by the time this night is through. Nick Bockwinkel! (fired up now) Listen to me … we go back a long way you and I but if you think for one moment I will let up on you tonight … well you might wake up looking at the ceiling and I will have the belt around my waist! Ricky Steamboat © vs. Larry Zbyszko for the WWF Intercontinental Championship Match: Larry Zbyszko won the match after it was stopped for excessive blood loss at 13:23. Larry suckered Steamboat coming into the ring with a concealed pencil-like object cutting him open in the early moments of the match. He controlled much of the action. When Steamboat started to make a comeback, he dumped him outside of the ring and smashed a chair over his head. With Steamboat now bleeding profusely, the referee stopped the bout. Quotation(s) from announcer: “We’ve seen these two have some great matches, let’s see if we get another one tonight” “Zbyszko hasn’t even tried to wrestle here, this is a fight and he’s playing as dirty as they come!” “The referee has called this one, the title cannot change hands for blood stoppage, the champion must be pinned or submit, and Larry Zbyskzo despite all his low down tactics, could not make Ricky Steamboat do that!” Nick Bockwinkel © vs Bobby Heenan for the WWF Heavyweight Championship Match: Nick Bockwinkel defeated Bobby Heenan by count out in 12:32. As the match started Heenan and Bockwinkel shook hands and proceeded to work an extremely technically sound match with clean breaks for the first 8 minutes as Heenan worked over Bockwinkel’s arm to start, and soon Bockwinkel took over on Heenan’s leg. But at around the 8:30 mark it became obvious that this match was not truly competitive as Bockwinkel threw a comedy punch at Heenan who proceeded to fly half way across the ring. Heenan stood up and threw comedy punch back which led Bockwinkel to fly almost the entire length of the ring. The crowd started to boo intensely. Laughing to themselves Bockwinkel and Heenan embraced after 12 minutes before Heenan jumped over the top rope and waited for the referee to count him out. Quotation(s) from announcer: “Well, I’ve been proven wrong. I thought I smelt a rat but these two seem to be going at it. Bobby Heenan does know how to wrestle!” “Oh I can see what’s happening here. This is awful. How could … will these two stop at nothing? This isn’t even funny, it’s just … DISRESPECTFUL to these fans and to Bob Backlund who would give his right ear for this title shot.” “Something needs to be done … in fact, I’m …” *Gorilla slams down his headset and gets up, crowd goes crazy* Bockwinkel scoffs at the sight of Monsoon getting in the ring, and Heenan is laughing his ass off. Monsoon demands the mic from Cappetta. Monsoon: Now listen here, Nick Bockwinkel! This … NONSENSE has got to stop! When are you going to start facing proper competition for that title? That title was held by the great Buddy Rogers. By Bruno Sammartino. By Pedro Morales. By Bob Backlund, the man that YOU have cheated and dodged for weeks now. Bockwinkel looks smug as Monsoon is talking. He’s openly mocking him. Heenan is behind him making gesutues around his stomach as if to signal that Monsoon is obese. Monsoon: I have connections in this business! I happen to know how these things work. TONIGHT I’m getting on the phone and I’m calling a man who should have been consulted a long time ago: WWF President Hisashi Shinma!!! And well I put together the litany of CRIMES that you have committed since you showed your face here, you are going to lose control of those title shots, license or contract be damned Heenan! Bockwinkel makes a face as if to say “I’m real scared, not” while Heenan laughs. As Monsoon goes to leave the ring, Bockwinkel sly and quick as anything gives him a low block shot taking his knee out. Heenan immediately goes over and drops a knee on Monsoon’s leg. Bockwinkel applies the figure four. Heenan gets on the mic and is almost psychotic with rage. Heenan: You don’t MESS WITH US! You understand FAT. OLD. MAN! OUR PLAN IS FULLPROOF AND NOTHING YOU CAN DO WILL STOP IT. Monsoon has passed out with pain as officials and security stream out of the back to pull them off. The crowd has started to throw trash into the ring. One fan even tries to make it over the barrier but is restrained by the police. Bob Backlund, Ricky Steamboat, SD Jones, and The Briscos all run out, but as they do all four Andersons and Larry Zbyskzko hit the ring. There is a massive brawl in the ring involving security, WWF officials, all of the faces and all of the heels as fans try to make it over the barriers to get involved. And meanwhile in the middle of it, Bockwinkel still has Monsoon in the figure four. There is, of course, no commentary. The show ends with this mass of humanity in the ring for a night that will go down in infamy.

Just had a brainwave: whoever doesn't get drafted gets added to Freelancers.

You've consistently stuck your nose where it doesn't belong, it was entirely of your own making. The consequences will only be suffered by you.

Joe Blanchard should wind his neck in and keep his beak out of affairs that do not concern him whatsoever.

I can think of one or two reasons.

Anybody working with you. The NWA has a proud history of icing out promotions who try to step on their turf.

Open google " Clawmaster" usually does the trick.

I think Joe Blanchard should be blacklisted for trying to provoke a war.

Okay, these are the towns I'm running: - Responsibility of Vince McMahon Sr: Buffalo, NY - Memorial Auditorium Glens Falls, NY - Civic Center Long Island, NY - Nassau Coliseum Poughkeepsie, NY - Mid-Hudson Civic Center Queens, NY - Ridgewood Groves Arena Rochester, NY - War Memorial Staten Island, NY - Wagner College Utica, NY - Memorial Auditorium - Responsibility of Vince McMahon Jr: Hartford, CT - Civic Center New Haven, CT - Coliseum Springfield, MA - Civic Center Worcester, MA - Auditorium - Responsibility of Phil Zacko: Hamburg, PA - Fieldhouse Harrisburg, PA - Zembo Temple Mosque aka "The House of Pete Doherty" Johnstown, PA - Cambria County War Memorial Arena Pittsburgh, PA - Civic Arena Scranton, PA - CYC - Responsibility of Gorilla Monsoon: Baltimore, MD - Civic Center Manchester, NH - JFK Coliseum Portland, ME - Civic Center Wilmington, DE - Memorial Hall Secondary Markets 1 (Mid-America): - Responsibility of Larry Matysik under the supervision of Dr Jerry von Kramer: Akron, OH - Physical Education Building Canton, OH - Civic Center Cleveland, OH - Convention Center Warren, OH - WD Packard Music Hall Detroit, MI - Cobo Arena Secondary Markets 2 (West Coast): - Responsibility of Mike Le Bell under the supervision of Dr Jerry von Kramer: Los Angeles, CA - Sports Arena Los Angeles, CA - Olympic Auditorium San Diego, CA - Sports Arena San Jose, CA - Outdoor Soccer Stadium Phoenix, AZ - Veterans Memorial Coliseum We could add: - Responsibility of Jack Tunney (co-branded shows with MLW), working with Gorilla Monsoon: - Any town in Maine that isn't Portland (10 mile radius) - Any town in Michigan that isn't Detroit (10 mile radius) - Any town in Vermount

Hold on, we might still be able to work something out.

No no no. Detroit, Boston and other such obvious key WWF towns, no. I'm talking Ontario, Nova Scotia, the Canadian part of the territory.

As a way of cementing the good working relationship between WWF and MLW, I can offer this: - You can run shows in those towns with joint WWF-MLW branding. - Send dates to me in advance. If date is set to clash with one of my shows such as 9/13, which is a Tuesday, I can work out who to send in advance for a double shot. Expect to see SD Jones in a town near you! - Jack Tunney would essentially be running the area under secondment from Vince McMahon, as long as co-branding is kept in place.

Writing staff are absolutely retarded with this deal of "let's put ALL of the people in one division in one match". They've been doing it for ages now, like they aren't actually creative enough to book an actual division to make it feel like a division so they just think "ah shit, let's just stick them all in one match". Seen them do it with the tag titles, they did it with the IC title and they are doing it with the women.

Charlotte also needs to cut a promo saying like "We are not fucking divas, we're wrestlers! Like my dad was a wrestler! Like the Four Horsemen were wrestlers! WOOOO!" Something like that. She'd be hot in seconds.

3 vs 3 vs 3 is a good way to bury something that had potential to be hot. And a good way to bury Charlotte and Sasha who everyone is crying about at the moment. 1 vs. 1 in a feature feud if you are going to do it. First match screw finish Sasha over, second match draw, third match cage blow off. Make these girls stars don't fucking hide them among .... what SEVEN other divas? CRAP.

Bruce seems quiet today. Is he off doing some New Japan thing?

It is fair to say that his image-preserving abilities declined post-WCW / final WWE run.

To me a main event is a featured match that can draw and which is positioned as such. I have long disagreed with people who think there is only ever one main event on any given card. Lots of times 2-3 matches will be drawing.

If they really do book a 3 vs. 3 vs. 3 woman's match at Summerslam and as a main event, I may cancel the Network. I already barely watch it. And it has nothing to do with women and everything to do with my hatred of multi-way matches with 7+ participants. First IC shitfest at Mania, now this. Just terrible booking in my mind. Think of more creative ways to get the talent on the cards if that's the issue. My disdain for the modern product has probably never been higher than it is right now. And that might be the final straw.

But if the Demo Harts match from Summerslam is being out up as competition, there is none.