Everything posted by NintendoLogic
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Dave Meltzer stuff
In his review of Final Battle 2012, he said the Steen/Generico ladder match wasn't his cup of tea because it was just an exhibition of crazy spots and didn't feel like a world title match, but he gave it four stars largely because the live crowd ate it up.
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Current New Japan
I thought Omega/Okada was clearly the best of their matches. I think Okada's match with Tanahashi at Dontaku was better, but they hit all the marks they set out to hit while keeping me mostly engaged for over an hour, so kudos to them. I can't imagine someone finding serious fault with it unless they're implacably averse to New Japan main events or long matches in general. Is anybody else really excited by the prospect of Chris Jericho having a match with Minoru Suzuki? Jericho reinventing himself as middle-aged and crazy Terry Funk has worked far better than I ever imagined it would, and even if you don't think as I do that Suzuki is the best brawler in the world right now, he's the one guy on the roster who can give as good as he gets.
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UFC 203: Because CM Punk is finally fighting
OK, this is getting silly. If you can imagine a fantasy scenario where McGregor puts on 20 pounds and gains enough striking power to knock out heavyweights without his conditioning taking a serious hit, I can just as easily imagine Alberto training for the fight like it's a full-time job and hiring someone like Greg Jackson to devise the perfect game plan. Remember that he was a full-time professional wrestler when he fought and MMA was basically a side gig. He wore a mask during his fights, for chrissakes. Basketball is not a combat sport. And for the record, LeBron actually outweighs Plumlee.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
I like the episode of Ren & Stimpy where Mad Dog Hoek and Killer Kadoogan wrestle the Lout Brothers. Stimpy cuts a money promo at the end of the episode.
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UFC 203: Because CM Punk is finally fighting
It's actually not unprecedented. Nobuhiko Takada had trained in submission grappling for decades and he was routinely tapped out by white belts at BHJJC.
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UFC 203: Because CM Punk is finally fighting
Del Rio is former world-class amateur wrestler with MMA experience. He may not be an elite fighter, but he's not just some guy off the street either. He also outweighs McGregor by nearly 100 pounds. I have no idea who would win in a fight between the two, but I can guarantee McGregor wouldn't get a first-round knockout. He has yet to show he can knock out a welterweight, let alone a heavyweight.
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Dave Meltzer stuff
Straight from the horse's mouth: http://www.jimcornette.com/fighting-spirit/stars-their-eyes-fsm138 And I don't think modern NJPW is a significant deviation from 90s AJPW at all. It's a continuation of the direction the style was going in 2000s NOAH. Current NJPW is far closer to King's Road than it is to 80s/90s strong style.
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UFC 203: Because CM Punk is finally fighting
Have you ever grappled? Seriously, if you haven't done any grappling, he'd probably take you down and tap you in the first round. I don't know how anyone watched that first fight and thought Punk had any business in the cage with a professional fighter. He decided to become fighter at a time of life when most fighters are thinking about their exit strategy, and that is before we take into consideration all of his previous injuries. He's never been a good athlete, which is a huge detriment when you are trying to be a professional athlete. The amount of arrogance it takes for a dude who never even wrestled in high school to believe that he'd be able to be a professional fighter in his mid-to-late 30s is legitimately insane. It is like someone who never played football deciding to becoming a NFL quarterback. It is incredibly stupid for anyone to believe he'd be able to do it. I honestly don't know how he got past the licensing board. There is a huge lack of respect for how good these guys are at fighting. I remember someone telling me that they thought Alberto Del Rio could beat Conor McGregor in a fight. These aren't just dudes off the street, getting drunk and fighting in a bar. These are serious athletes who train up to 8 hours a day to become better fighters. The amount of talent, athleticism and skill that it takes to be an elite MMA fighter is so much higher than anyone gives them credit for. People really believe that random assholes who used to do Tae-Bo can compete with professional fighters. Stop it. This is fake news. I never said that Del Rio would beat McGregor in a fight. I only said it was absurd to think that McGregor would beat his ass. On a completely unrelated note, it just occurred to me that having Curt Hawkins break his losing streak by squashing Mike Jackson would be so hilariously petty that I fully expect WWE to do it.
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Dave Meltzer stuff
Dave has consistently held that matches can only be fairly judged contemporaneously because nobody can predict the tastes of future generations with any degree of certainty. If a match felt like the greatest he'd ever seen after watching it when it happened, then it was. How well it holds up 5/10/20 years from now is irrelevant. More broadly speaking, I think you have to distinguish between evaluating matches as a fan and evaluating them as a critic. It's one thing to say that, say, Tiger Mask and Dynamite Kid's matches don't hold up for you thirty-plus years after the fact. It's another thing entirely to say that they were therefore wrong to have worked their matches the way they did.
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The big announcement
Way to grab that brass ring, brother.
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Proposal for 2018: Match Review Trades
Too bad DR Ackermann's out. I had plenty of Bret Hart matches lined up for him. For SmartMark15, here's some BatBat. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4mkxoi
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LA Park is the King of Lucha (aka 2018 is weird)
I actually enjoyed the main event quite a bit. WWE is so stagnant right now that crash TV feels like a breath of fresh air. I certainly wouldn't want to watch it all the time, but it's fun in small doses. Is there any chance of Park losing his mask at Triplemania? I'm sure he would if the price was right, and Wagner got a nice chunk of change for losing his at last year's show. But that was a match with a year-long build and not a hastily thrown together four-way.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
The lights going out in the middle of a match seemingly to set up a big return or debut only for it to be just a power outage is peak AAA.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
I'd like to see them do it like in New Japan where the briefcase holder has to defend it like a championship. That way, they're established as credible challengers even if they win the title on a fluke cash-in.
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Wrestling moves/holds I'd like to see mount a comeback
I think the Russian legsweep works best as a setup for the Octagon Special.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
So WWE fired one of their executives after it was revealed that his wife is a notorious far-right Twitter troll. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-muslim-twitter-troll-amy-mek-mekelburg_us_5b0d9e40e4b0802d69cf0264?7z
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Great Punchers Of The 2000s
European uppercuts are fantastic. At the very least, they seem like they'd be more likely to end a match than chops to the chest.
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Wrestling moves/holds I'd like to see mount a comeback
Randy Orton does that all the time. Is there a name for punching someone in the face while you have him in a headlock? That's something no one really does anymore.
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Wrestling moves/holds I'd like to see mount a comeback
Braun Strowman uses a running powerslam as a finisher. And Tanahashi has used the cloverleaf as a secondary finisher for years. I'd like to see the Calf Branding make a comeback.
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Proposal for 2018: Match Review Trades
I find deathmatch wrestling repugnant on basically every level, and scaffold matches uniformly suck, so I went into this with low expectations. To the match's credit, the scaffold was mostly a nonfactor. I find that gimmick matches work best when the gimmick is an accent rather than the centerpiece, like I Quit matches that feature the microphone as little as possible and strap matches where the wrestlers concentrate on whipping each other rather than trying to touch the four corners. Regardless, this felt like more of a carnival geek show where the goal was to use the light tubes as creatively as possible than a wrestling match. They lost me completely when Miyamoto kicked out of an Emerald Flowsion off the scaffold through a table. There were so many kickouts of big moves that by all rights should have ended the match, I half expected the finish to be something like a small package. As it turns out, the actual finish was appropriately brutal and incorporated the scaffold to boot. I also wasn't really feeling the use of traffic cones as weapons. That seemed more appropriate for a WWE comedy street fight than a Japanese deathmatch.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
The Twitter machine says that Io isn't the only Stardom talent WWE has poached. My guess would be Mayu Iwatani or Hana Kimura.
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Proposal for 2018: Match Review Trades
My pick for fxnj is Antonio Inoki vs. Texas Red (Red Bastien under a mask). http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkfzr
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The Innovation of the Tapout in Pro Wrestling
Taz may have done it first, but I'm pretty sure Shamrock was responsible for popularizing it in mainstream American wrestling. In addition to the Billy Gunn segment, he made Vader tap out in his first WWF match. And I distinctly remember Brian Pillman mocking him in the Canadian Stampede ten-man by slamming his hand against the mat and yelling "He's tapping out!" during a pin attempt.
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WWE TV $$$ Edition (0$/21 - 0$/27)
FOMO is a hell of a drug.
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Roman Reigns as the ace post-Wrestlemania
You mean Brock, right?