NintendoLogic

Added my final pick for 2016 and my first pick for 2017.

I think it's funny that while this thread is going on, there's a thread on the F4W forum wondering why Dave didn't give HBK/Undertaker five stars.

Does anyone else find it bizarre that Meltzer refers to the Rock as Dwayne on Twitter even when speaking about him in a wrestling contest? Example: https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/834871578399682561

That's not how Street Fighter works. Supers aren't guaranteed round enders, and even a jab can end a round if the opponent's lifebar is sufficiently depleted. I'd like to see the concept of cumulative damage return to wrestling. When was the last time you saw someone kick out of big finisher and get pinned by a mid-level move? As it is, the escalation train only goes forward, never backward.

TNA's new owners must be big Rush fans.

I think he was saying more that Mexican fans are more willing to pay to see wrestlers in their 50s and 60s. But he missed the point of the question, which is why so many more luchadores are able to perform at a high level at an advanced age. The thing is, I don't know how true that is from a percentage standpoint. A big part of it is that there are many times more active wrestlers in Mexico than in the US and Japan.

I'm not nearly as much of a lucha fan as many here, but the 11/29/96 trios is my second-favorite lucha match of all time.

My version of 1983 Lawler/Dundee is 17:03. For 1985, it's 15:20. Both are definitely clipped.

Corey Graves has a really annoying habit of giving away what's about to happen by predicting the exact opposite. I realize that's a WWE announcer trope, but he seems to be worse about it than most.

I've only been half paying attention to this show, but I actually really liked Cena/Styles. Much better than their Summerslam match.

I've actually wanted to do something like this for a while. But I decided to hold off on suggesting it because I figured everyone would be burned out from the GWE project.

So I gave Okada/Omega another chance after all the hype it was getting. I'd say the good outweighed the bad overall, but I doubt it would make a list of my top 200 favorite matches. But that's not the focus of this thread. Given all the reaction to Meltzer's ****** rating, I figured this would be a good time to revisit the topic. What do you consider to be the greatest match of all time? No lists, pick one and only one. Include an explanation if you like, especially if your pick is somewhat unorthodox. For me, it's an easy call: 6/9/95. 'Nuff said.

It seems to me that this question is functionally equivalent to asking one's opinion of 90s All Japan. If you think it's the greatest shit ever, you'll almost certainly pick the 90s. If you don't, you'll most likely pick the 80s. EDIT: I actually accidentally voted for the 80s the first time. Oops.

1970s: Giant Baba vs. Billy Robinson 1980s: Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk, Great American Bash 1990s: 6/9/95 2000s: Eddie Guerrero vs. Brock Lesnar, No Way Out 2010s: Brock Lesnar vs. CM Punk, Summerslam

Thanks for the recs, guys. I'll post my thoughts after I've made it through all of them. I did watch Brody/Spoiler. Really good brawl, and a great performance by Brody. If more matches like this turn up, I'd say Brody is due for a re-re-evaluation.

John Cena tweeted support for the Women's March on Washington. https://twitter.com/JohnCena/status/822917247886913536

So I finally bit the bullet and signed up for this. I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so I apologize if this has been covered before, but is there any kind of consensus on five or ten must-see matches as a starting point?

Jack Brisco once said that he still would have gone into pro wrestling even if MMA had been around because he didn't like getting hit in the face.

I tried to watch the WK match and turned it off after about ten minutes. I actually like Okada a lot, so Omega pretty much has to be the worst wrestler on Earth to make me hate an Okada match that much. Anyway, I went to renew my subscription this morning, and I was a bit puzzled to see that one of the options is $32.99 for three months. A single month is $10.99, so it's actually more expensive than signing up for a monthly subscription and cancelling after three months, albeit only by two cents.

New Orleans celebrates its tricentennial that year, so there's that.

The 10/19/90 six-man had work on Kobashi's nose. And the 10/15/91 one had work on Misawa's.

But Rush is where all that breaks down. He wrestles like a heel and is clearly positioned as the heel in his feuds yet is classified as a tecnico. It reflects neither his in-ring style nor his moral alignment.

I don't think there's any particular thing Flair is the greatest of all time at, but there's no one who's better than him at everything. It all comes down to what you value the most.

Also, Satanico had done the same thing to Dandy in their October match.

Here's an important factor no one has mentioned yet: the predominance of lighter weight classes in Mexico. The traditional American focus on heavyweights is part of the reason why relatively few American stars have worked in Mexico and few luchadores have worked in the US outside of California and Texas. And plenty of fans just don't like smaller wrestlers in general, whether they be New Japan juniors, WCW cruiserweights, or luchadores.