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I wasn't trying to compare Rose and Colon as candidates. I was just pointing out that character issues don't single-handedly turn you into a joke candidate. Anyway, I'm going to once again that the WON HOF's prohibition on being inducted multiple times is completely asinine. The Four Horsemen and the Holy Demon Army should be locks for any pro wrestling HOF, but they're not eligible because Flair and Kawada are already in as singles performers.

I was paying attention, specifically when it was brought up that he was highly regarded as a worker. And if being a scumbag were an absolute disqualifier, Carlos Colon wouldn't be knocking on the door every year.

At the risk of sounding like a troll, why shouldn't the opinions of peers and contemporaries carry more weight than those of guys watching footage decades after the fact? Also, if Rose was so highly regarded by his peers, why isn't he a serious HOF candidate? It's not just that he cant get in, he can't even stay on the ballot.

I don't think it's so much generalities as it is that the people who are anti-Tanahashi have already hashed out the opinions either earlier in this thread, the Tanahashi vs. Cena thread, etc. I haven't seen much hashing out in either this thread or the Cena/Tanahashi one. The most substantive argument I've seen is that his offense looks weak.

I don't think Tanahashi has accomplished nearly enough to warrant HOF inclusion, and I'm increasingly indifferent toward him in general. But I find it interesting that pro-Tanahashi posters are expected to make the case for him in exhaustive detail while anti-Tanahashi ones can get away with expressing generalities.

More faked heart attacks: Fred Sanford or Kevin Nash?

I think Tyson is the perfect comparison. Neither he nor Hogan are pop culture icons, but they both have near-universal name recognition that transcends their respective sports.

There is no company in the history of the world that would have declined giving Rock the belt if he wanted it, especially with his plan ending with him doing a clean job to their top star. The goal of the program was to make Cena a bigger star by having Rock give him the rub. It was a complete failure in that regard.

Yes.

A stale but stable company doesn't throw truckloads of money at Brock Lesnar to work three matches a year. Nor does it make a Hollywood actor who hasn't wrestled full-time in over a decade its world champion.

Dwayne Johnson may have a higher Q rating than Hulk Hogan, but to the public at large, he's an actor who used to wrestle rather than a wrestler who became an actor. My guess is that if you asked a bunch of non-fans to name a professional wrestler, they'd say Hogan 9 times out of 10.

Hardys/Serial Thrillaz from OMEGA.

The problem a lot of people have with the Bryan storyline is that it represented the exact opposite of radical change.

I don't think what happened last night was a panic move. The dirtsheets were reporting at the beginning of September that the plan all along was to blow off Bryan/Orton at HIAC and to have Orton in the title picture through the Rumble.

First, Bryan was supposed to go over at NOC. Then it was supposed to happen at Battleground. Then it was supposed to happen at HIAC. Now it's going to happen at Survivor Series. Or maybe the Rumble or even Mania. Is there a cutoff? Or are people going to insist that Bryan getting the last laugh is just around the corner in perpetuity?

Bret was the same size as Randy Savage.

Did Shawn get hair plugs?

Added the minis trios, Trio Fantasia/Thundercats, and the Flair/Morton cage match. Some more candidates for discussion: June 12-Maeda/Fujinami from 1986 or Kawada/Kobashi from 1998? August 2-Hash/Choshu from 1996 or Hash/Yamazaki from 1998?

I edited the OP to include a master list of dates I think are pretty much settled. Here are a few more dates for discussion. February 29-Better match from Superbrawl II: Liger/Pillman or Dustin/Windham vs. Austin/Zbyszko? March 27-In addition to the first Clash, you also have the Hokuto/Kandori vs. Bull/Aja tag from 1994. April 11-Toyota/Yamada vs. Ozaki/Kansai is the best known match from Dreamslam II, but I prefer Kong/Hokuto vs. Kandori/Sawai. July 24-In addition to the previously mentioned matches, you also have Fujiwara/Yamazaki from 1989. August 29-Bret/Bulldog from 1992 or Liger/Tanaka vs. Kikuchi/Kanemaru from 2002? August 30-Midnight Rockers vs. Rose/Somers from 1986 or Kong/Kansai from 1995? August 31-In addition to the previously mentioned matches, you also have Funks vs. Hansen/Gordy from 1983 and Jumbo/Tenryu from 1987. September 22-Rey/Psicosis from 1995 or HBK/Mankind from 1996? September 23-Hansen/Andre from 1981 or MS-1/Sangre Chicana from 1983? October 21-Hansen/Jumbo from 1986, Misawa/Kobashi from 1997, or Rock/Jericho from 2001? October 28-Jumbo/Tenryu from 1988 or Kawada/Tenryu from 2000? December 5-Inoki/Fujinami vs. Murdoch/Adonis from 1984 or LA Park/Mesias from 2010?

The people have spoken, and I have listened. I've decided to use the date the match took place across the board. It somewhat complicates things for WWE, but it's a consistent standard. Moving on, let me throw out some more dates where I think a reasonable debate exists. January 4-This is basically a question of the best New Japan Dome match. Off the top of my head, I'd go with Vader/Inoki from 1996, but there are a number of worthy candidates. January 28-Jumbo/Tenryu vs. Choshu/Yatsu from 1986 or Cena/Umaga from 2007? February 15-Savage/Steamboat from 1987 or Eddy/Brock from 2004? March 27-The date of the first Clash. I really like the Luger/Windham vs. Arn/Tully tag, but others might go with MX/Fantastics or Flair/Sting. May 5-You have Kudo/Toyoda, but you also have various WoS matches, perhaps the most notable of which is Breaks/Saint from 1973. May 22-Jumbo/Kerry from 1984 or the Jumbo/Misawa six-man from 1992? July 24-Baba/Robinson from 1976 or Misawa/Kawada from 1995? August 18-Vader/Takada from 1994 or Brock/Punk from 2013? August 28-Jumbo/Brisco from 1976 or Warrior/Rude from 1989? August 31-Santo/Espanto from 1986 or Doc/Kobashi from 1993? November 20-The date of Big Egg Universe. Kong/Toyota is my favorite, but there are plenty of matches to pick from.

Gorgeous George is known mainly for his pioneering gimmick, but he really was a hell of a worker in the truest sense of the word. He could show up in WWE tomorrow and get over huge. Seriously, everybody drop what you're doing and check out these matches. vs. Larry Moquin: vs. Jesse James: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK8mU6FUmnk My favorite moment is probably the imported Florida air he brought to partake of between falls. That's something Damien Sandow should do, except maybe with air imported from Cambridge or something. With apologies to Lex Luger, George really was the total package.

Thanks for the contributions, everyone. And yeah, my preference would definitely be to start with the no-brainers and work my way out rather than going in chronological order. In that spirit, here's a few I would say are gimmes: January 13-El Hijo del Santo vs. Brazo de Oro, 1991 20-Misawa vs. Kobashi, 1997 22-Han vs. Tamura, 1997 31-Liger vs. Sano, 1990 February 5-Fujinami vs. Dynamite Kid, 1980 20-Flair vs. Steamboat, 1989 22-Kawada vs. Hashimoto, 2004 27-Misawa vs. Akiyama, 2000 28-Hansen vs. Kawada, 1993 March 20-Bret vs. Owen, 1994 22-Duggan vs. DiBiase, 1985 23-Hart vs. Austin, 1997 24-Finlay vs. Regal, 1996 29-Savage vs. Steamboat, 1987 April 1-Rock vs. Austin, 2001 15-Misawa vs. Taue, 1995 20-Misawa/Kawada/Kobashi vs. Jumbo/Taue/Fuchi, 1991 24-Ikeda vs. Ishikawa, 2005 25-Kobashi vs. Takayama, 2004 29-Cena vs. Lesnar, 2012 May 2-Vader vs. Misawa, 1999 17-Wargames, 1992 23-Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Taue, 1996 25-Kobashi/Kikuchi vs. Furnas/Kroffat, 1992 June 1-El Dandy vs. Angel Azteca, 1990 3-Misawa vs. Kawada, 1994 5-Jumbo vs. Tenryu, 1989 6-Lawler vs. Dundee, 1983 7-Misawa/Akiyama vs. Williams/Ace, 1996 8-Jumbo vs. Misawa, 1990 9-Misawa/Kobashi vs. Kawada/Taue, 1995 13-Hart vs. Perfect, 1993 16-Slaughter vs. Sheik, 1984 17-Tenryu vs. Hashimoto, 1993 20-Rude vs. Steamboat, 1992 21-Eddy vs. Rey, 2005 July 1-Hart vs. Kid, 1994 3-El Dandy vs. Negro Casas, 1992 12-Vader vs. Sting, 1992 17-Punk vs. Cena, 2011 18-Santo vs. Casas, 1987 23-Flair vs. Funk, 1989 29-Hansen vs. Kobashi, 1993 August 10-Liger vs. Sano, 1989 11-Mutoh vs. Chono, 1991 19-Angle vs. Austin, 2001 29-Hart vs. Bulldog, 1992 30-Kong vs. Kansai, 1995 September 1-Jumbo vs. Misawa, 1990 14-Satanico vs. Gran Cochisse, 1984 19-Santo vs. Casas, 1997 20-Hart vs. Undertaker, 1997 22-HBK vs. Mankind, 1996 23-MS-1 vs. Sangre Chicana, 1983 28-HBK/Diesel vs. Ramon/Kid, 1994 October 1-Joe vs. Kobashi, 2005 9-Kawada vs. Sasaki, 2000 19-Misawa/Kawada/Kobashi vs. Jumbo/Taue/Fuchi, 1990 21-Rock vs. Jericho, 2001 26-Eddy vs. Rey, 1997 28-Kawada vs. Tenryu, 2000 November 16-Vader vs. Dustin, 1994 17-Hart vs. Austin, 1996 19-Dustin/Steamboat vs. Arn/Zbyszko, 1991 December 3-Misawa/Kobashi vs. Kawada/Taue, 1993 6-Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Taue, 1996 11-Bockwinkel vs. Robinson, 1980 14-El Dandy vs. Satanico, 1990 16-Hansen/Gordy vs. Tenryu/Kawada, 1988 17-Hart vs. Bulldog, 1995 28-Vader vs. Sting, 1992 30-Lawler vs. Dundee, 1985 Any recommendations for additions/subtractions?

While lying in bed last night, I got an idea for an ambitious/ridiculous/insane project: compile a list of the best matches to take place on every single day of the year. Some of the days, like June 3, are no-brainers. Other days are more difficult. For example, off the top of my head, I can't think of a single great match to take place on New Year's Day. So who wants to chip in? THE MASTER LIST January 13-El Hijo del Santo vs. Brazo de Oro, 1991 15-Kawada vs. Taue, 1991 20-Misawa vs. Kobashi, 1997 21-Ohtani vs. Samurai, 1996 22-Han vs. Tamura, 1997 31-Liger vs. Sano, 1990 February 5-Fujinami vs. Dynamite Kid, 1980 9-Liger vs. Ohtani, 1997 17-Tenryu vs. Hashimoto, 1994 20-Flair vs. Steamboat, 1989 22-Kawada vs. Hashimoto, 2004 27-Misawa vs. Akiyama, 2000 28-Hansen vs. Kawada, 1993 March 5-Jumbo vs. Robinson, 1977 6-Gotch vs. Inoki, 1972 11-Jumbo vs. Robinson, 1977 17-Liger vs. Ohtani, 1996 20-Bret vs. Owen, 1994 22-Duggan vs. DiBiase, 1985 23-Hart vs. Austin, 1997 24-Finlay vs. Regal, 1996 26-New Japan elimination match, 1986 29-Savage vs. Steamboat, 1987 31-Misawa vs. Kobashi, 1996 April 1-Rock vs. Austin, 2001 14-Funk vs. Hansen, 1983 15-Misawa vs. Taue, 1995 19-New Japan gauntlet, 1984 20-Misawa/Kawada/Kobashi vs. Jumbo/Taue/Fuchi, 1991 24-Ikeda vs. Ishikawa, 2005 25-Kobashi vs. Takayama, 2004 29-Cena vs. Lesnar, 2012 May 2-Vader vs. Misawa, 1999 17-Wargames, 1992 21-Misawa/Kobashi vs. Kawada/Taue, 1994 23-Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Taue, 1996 25-Kobashi/Kikuchi vs. Furnas/Kroffat, 1992 June 1-El Dandy vs. Angel Azteca, 1990 3-Misawa vs. Kawada, 1994 5-Jumbo vs. Tenryu, 1989 6-Lawler vs. Dundee, 1983 7-Misawa/Akiyama vs. Williams/Ace, 1996 8-Jumbo vs. Misawa, 1990 9-Misawa/Kobashi vs. Kawada/Taue, 1995 13-Hart vs. Perfect, 1993 16-Slaughter vs. Sheik, 1984 17-Tenryu vs. Hashimoto, 1993 20-Rude vs. Steamboat, 1992 21-Eddy vs. Rey, 2005 July 1-Hart vs. Kid, 1994 3-El Dandy vs. Negro Casas, 1992 5-Flair vs. Morton, 1986 12-Vader vs. Sting, 1992 17-Punk vs. Cena, 2011 18-Santo vs. Casas, 1987 19-Tamura vs. Uematsu, 1997 23-Flair vs. Funk, 1989 25-Destroyer vs. Mil Mascaras, 1974 27-Hansen vs. Tenryu, 1988 29-Hansen vs. Kobashi, 1993 August 4-Ultimo vs. Ohtani, 1996 8-Tenryu vs. Hashimoto, 1993 10-Liger vs. Sano, 1989 11-Mutoh vs. Chono, 1991 19-Angle vs. Austin, 2001 22-Devil vs. Chigusa, 1985 27-HBK vs. Ramon, 1995 September 1-Jumbo vs. Misawa, 1990 11-Fujiwara vs. Super Tiger, 1985 12-New Japan elimination match, 1988 14-Satanico vs. Gran Cochisse, 1984 19-Santo vs. Casas, 1997 20-Hart vs. Undertaker, 1997 28-HBK/Diesel vs. Ramon/Kid, 1994 October 1-Joe vs. Kobashi, 2005 3-Minis trios, 1997 5-HBK vs. Undertaker, 1997 8-Tanahashi vs. Suzuki, 2012 9-Kawada vs. Sasaki, 2000 11-Jumbo vs. Tenryu, 1989 19-Misawa/Kawada/Kobashi vs. Jumbo/Taue/Fuchi, 1990 24-Jumbo vs. Kawada, 1991 26-Eddy vs. Rey, 1997 31-Misawa vs. Kobashi, 1998 November 16-Vader vs. Dustin, 1994 17-Hart vs. Austin, 1996 19-Dustin/Steamboat vs. Arn/Zbyszko, 1991 21-Hennig vs. Bockwinkel, 1986 24-Ultimo vs. Rey, 1996 26-Toyota/Yamada vs. Ozaki/Kansai, 1992 28-Magnum vs. Tully, 1985 December 3-Misawa/Kobashi vs. Kawada/Taue, 1993 6-Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Taue, 1996 8-Trio Fantasia vs. Thundercats, 1991 11-Bockwinkel vs. Robinson, 1980 13-Lawler vs. Kerry, 1988 14-El Dandy vs. Satanico, 1990 16-Hansen/Gordy vs. Tenryu/Kawada, 1988 17-Hart vs. Bulldog, 1995 28-Vader vs. Sting, 1992 30-Lawler vs. Dundee, 1985

The dirtsheets were reporting a while back that Bryan/Orton was supposed to be blown off at HIAC and that Orton is supposed to be in the title picture through the Rumble.

Jerry, am I reading you correctly? Are you really claiming that negative reviews from Internet writers is the only think keeping Ed Leslie from being a HOF candidate?