Everything posted by NintendoLogic
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
I recall the UnAmericans being concerned for their safety because they were drawing the wrong kind of heat. In certain parts of the country, a heel doing something offensive to the flag would probably cause a riot.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
1997 is not the 70s or 80s. And even then, it would have been a much bigger deal if Bret Hart had humped the American flag.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
There's tons of shit that worked in the past that wouldn't fly today, like sneaky Japanese heels. Society advances. And the degree to which heels in the old days had free rein to offend is overstated. After the Brazilian flag incident, people were saying that Jericho was just being an old-school heel. I can't find the post, but Dave said that any promotion that ran a flag desecration angle in the 70s or 80s would have been thrown off TV.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
At its core, wrestling is escapist entertainment. There are some lines that shouldn't be crossed. If you have to hit that far below the belt to get heat, you're a pretty lousy heel.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Apparently, the last straw for A W was this tweet from Thursday: For those who are unaware, Rosa Mendes recently filed a police report because her fiance was beating her. And yes, he's having one hell of a Twitter meltdown.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
So A W, the Kobe rape joke guy, got released today. To say that he isn't taking it very well would be quite the understatement. From his Twitter:
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
There may have been a degree of lifetime achievement with Benoit, but I think it was more a case of them needing someone to keep the belt warm until Orton and Batista were ready to be elevated. HHH had gone through the entire Raw roster, so they brought in a top guy from Smackdown for fresh matchups.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Dave's response to the lifetime achievement argument: The "you" in question is rovert.
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Ridiculous quotes from WO.com columnists
I'd actually like to see a game where Alvarez taunts the player with "NO BUYS!" and "MINUS FIVE STARS!" He could be like the dog in Duck Hunt.
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Is anyone a "draw" anymore?
Isn't it basically the same thing he did with Jim Duggan? Taking badass brawlers and turning them into a kid-friendly comedy act?
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A Demand for a Comprehensive PPV Buyrate List
There was also the curiosity factor of it being the first single brand PPV.
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As The World Turns
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Kurt Angle. Debuts as a heel in 1999 Turns face with the rest of the WWF in 2001 Turns heel by joining the Alliance later in 2001 Turns face after returning from injury in 2003 Turns heel on Eddy in 2004 Turns face after the Cena feud in 2006 Then there's all his turns in TNA, which I haven't bothered to keep track of. Note that Vince directed him to join the Alliance as a mole, so depending on your perspective, you could add turning on the Alliance at Survivor Series and aligning with Vince the next night to the list.
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Your Dream "King of Trios" Card
I Don't even LIKE Kane that much! I was arguing against a Shawn Michaels match more than anything else there. Then you guys got all hyperbole on me and... bah. I wonder how bad his reading comprehension is to get that idea. He must only read capitalized words or something. It was a joke. Lighten up, Francis.
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1990 hype!
Most importantly, I hear the set has lots of Demolition.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
If they have a problem, they should man up and unionize.
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Is anyone a "draw" anymore?
And goodhelmet thought he could contain Demolition to a single thread.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
I thought that Eddy had become one of the WWE's biggest draws at that point, particularly among Latinos. Also, I wonder how many non-fans would notice Nash's buddy Shawn Michaels at the airport.
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Is anyone a "draw" anymore?
One variable that, to my knowledge, has never been examined in great detail is the relationship between the health of the wrestling industry and the health of the economy as a whole. A cursory look at the data indicates to me that the two track pretty well. It's not a perfect correlation, but it does appear to be statistically significant.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
I've never heard Nash take credit for Austin and the Attitude Era before. A while back, Dave said that either Nash has undergone a significant mental decline in the past few years or Twitter has exposed him as just another dumb wrestler. I'm inclined to say it's a little from column A and a little from column B.
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Is anyone a "draw" anymore?
Most of the undercard guys Jerry points to were already territorial headliners before they came to the WWF. So if the undercard has taken a dive, it's largely because there are no more successful territories to raid.
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Is anyone a "draw" anymore?
Oh, boy. Here we go.
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Linda McMahon for Senate catch-all thread
I don't think they're crazy. They just have the same blind spots a lot of rich people do. They expect a great deal of deference from ordinary people and think any problem can be solved by throwing money at it.
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Is anyone a "draw" anymore?
So I was thinking. Which old-timer could come back and do big numbers for a single match? Austin for sure. Probably Goldberg. Sting vs. Undertaker or whoever else is one of the few unrealized dream matches they can still run. The Ultimate Warrior would get a good nostalgia pop against Heath Slater on Raw, but would anyone pay to see him wrestle on PPV?
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
He did indeed. Ditch's site has a match from 1979 where he defends the AWA belt against Jumbo in Hawaii.
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Linda McMahon for Senate catch-all thread
The most liberal Republican is still well to the right of the most conservative Democrat.