WingedEagle

Thought the angle with Orton punting Shane and RKO'ing Steph building towards his Mania match with Hunter was really, really strong. Came off the rails sooner rather than later and the match itself wasn't exactly hot, but we hadn't seen anyone get heat on Steph like that.

One of those I'd love to make #1 but can't quite put him above a few names. Glad some folks will have him there.

That's great. As others have noted, the best about this project is the process itself. Its been a basis for watching a lot of wrestling that I might not have moved to the top of the list and forced me to think about what I value in wrestling. At the end of the day the list that matters to each of us is our own. As long as we're all comfortable with that one and hopefully look back on it from time to time its well worth it.

As an analogy, yes.

Don't know you and am thus not in a position to judge. I simply don't see how a worker's performance in lingerie matches contributes to their case as an all-time great professional wrestler.

I think there's a big distinction between acknowledging that promos, angles and booking can contribute to how you view a match versus actively choosing to incorporate promos and angles as part of your rankings.

Don't really know what else to say. But this whole fascination is very unsettling.

What talent is required to pull off a T&A match other than meeting threshold for presentable T&A?

Come on. None of them were wrestlers. It seems beyond a stretch to say there is a "good" T&A "match." AVN award winners don't get promoted to the Oscars for a reason.

Exactly, that was far and away the hyped match for the show. Can't just look at what closes the night. With that approach Jericho/Hunter headlined 18.

Yeah, torrents for one-offs and certain territorial stuff. And Ditch. Bless the Ditch.

Almost zero on Youtube / DM here except for some modern lucha. Everything else is from comps secured through the Village or other trades or WWEN.

Love the diversity of this list. Absolutely zero consensus from what I can see. Perhaps a little more lucha than some others? Definitely a strong reminder that I have to check out many classics that department.

That was also the promoted main event of Mania that year and more an angle than a match.

When else has a Mania main event repeated at the following February show? Looks the case now but don't recall it happening otherwise.

I'd imagine Cena's absence will draw the most sideways glances there. Brock will absolutely place for me but no clue yet where or how to rank him. I could argue he belongs in my top 25 and just easily make a case for the bottom 25. Until a few weeks ago I was sure Lawler would be the biggest omission from my list (absent those I haven't seen enough to rank), but I started rewatching the Memphis set and needless to say the King will be on my list.

Gotta start somewhere. Your list may change dramatically in one month or 6, but that's what makes this stuff. Nothing written in stone.

Do we have any sense why Flair came out at #3 rather than #1? Instinct says its a simpler story to promote someone going the distance. So why 3?

His name is Gruber. Hans Gruber. Never knew this but was a fun read: http://sploid.gizmodo.com/alan-rickman-fell-for-real-in-die-hard-plus-six-other-f-1666327722

Quite ambitious but for purely selfish reasons I hope you get through most or all of it as I'm looking forward to seeing your thoughts on many eras, particular finishing out the 80s, joshi and 90s NJPW.

Couldn't agree more on Brock vs. Roman. A match I love more every time I watch it and somehow think they incorporated Rollins just about perfectly when on paper such a scenario may read like a trainwreck. Really eager to compile a list of this sort myself, but so many matches I've yet to rewatch since I started tracking things that it'd be very incomplete at this point.

He wouldn't place at the top of my list this year, but the standouts for me were Raw vs. Cena twice over the summer and Reigns I believe after Survivor Series. Also a number of good tags with Kidd earlier in the year against the Usos & New Day. Its a real shame Kidd got hurt.

The one wrestler above all others I fear could transmit Hep C to me solely by ranking him.

I'm only halfway through part 1 but already wasted from every "peak of his powers" Canada really seems to take this Hart/Michaels things seriously. It sounds like some legit cold war beef 18+ years (holy shit) later.

Could argue for 5 on the basis of 6's buyrate, but there's probably just as much an argument that 6 fell short due to the face vs. face dynamic.