Everything posted by Migs
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[2000-09-04-WWF-Raw] The Undertaker & The Rock vs Edge & Christian
I was really dreading this match based on E&C's prior interactions with Rock and Undertaker (the latter especially), but this was a really good tag match that made E&C look credible. The control segment on the Undertaker isn't amazing, but it does exist and serves to improve their credibility. The finishing sequence is a little disjointed with the run-ins, but it does work to get a couple of big near falls, and set up the con-chair-to (which the camera angle doesn't help here), to get the win.
- [2000-08-31-WWF-Smackdown] Matt & Jeff Hardy & Lita vs Edge & Christian & Jacqueline
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[2000-08-27-WWF-Summerslam] Matt & Jeff Hardy vs D-Von & Bubba Ray Dudley vs Edge & Christian (Tables, Ladders & Chairs)
This one had some strengths over the Mania match (less convolution), but it also felt like the bumps built a little less cleanly (Bubba and Matt get taken out by basically the same bump, although the visual of Matt falling backwards is insane). Still an insane, effective match that built really strong legacies for all six involved.
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WWE Network... It's Here
I believe they've solved that by taking the cues off most of his matches (although I think some have cues but don't use his name). I do wonder if part of the issue with playlists is the way video is organized - it's all in the full cards, and not individual videos. Even when you click a searched video you're pulling up the show.
- [2000-08-24-WWF-Smackdown] Matt & Jeff Hardy & Chris Jericho vs Chris Benoit & Edge & Christian
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[2000-08-21-WWF-Raw] Matt & Jeff Hardy vs D-Von & Bubba Ray Dudley
E&C are unsurprisingly great on commentary. In addition to what's discussed above, I believe they officially name the Con-chair-to here. The Hardyz and Dudleyz can put together a solid five minutes in their sleep, and this is an enjoyable setup to E&C interfering and getting the upper hand on both teams heading into the PPV.
- [2000-08-17-WWF-Smackdown] Jeff Hardy & D-Von Dudley vs Edge & Christian
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Current New Japan
Minoru Suzuki has been my favorite guy on their roster this year Yeah, the Tanahashi match was pretty fun.
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WWE Network... It's Here
There's PWO Welcome Pack level stuff like Savage vs Garvin in the cage or the Archie Gouldie promo about his son or even Andre vs Hansen. Absolutely. But there's also the ability to do this: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=midnight+express+vs Yeah, but look at what you get there. The first hit is a really mediocre match with the Freebirds. None of the stuff on the first page is what I'd call intro level MX stuff. There's so much stuff, even on the Network, that it's hard to work through the backlog if you don't have something to guide you.
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Biggest Pops and Best Crowd Connection you have seen in person
Related - when they appeared unexpectedly to wrestle the Young Bucks at the Manhattan Center ROH show a month before this, the crowd lost its collective mind. Absolute pandemonium. They came to the merch tables at intermission (the match led right into it) and the crowd was just mobbing them. I think it might be the biggest pop and reaction I've ever seen live. Low Ki, Homicide and Da Hit Squad had a pretty great connection with the NY and NJ crowd in early 2001. They just defined that era of wrestling in that region in a way that's hard to explain. The intensity. There was something very visceral about the way all those guys performed that connected in a way that the spotfest guys (who everyone enjoyed too, to be sure) did not.
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Has wrestling gone overboard with the various streaming services?
I have WWE and ROH (rolled over from the prior club membership, but feeling like I'll keep it at the end of the year). Keep getting tempted by Highspots but want to catch up on a few other things before I dive in over there (and most of their interesting stuff is back catalog).
- [2000-08-10-WWF-Smackdown] D-Von & Bubba Ray Dudley vs Edge & Christian
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[2000-07-17-WWF-Raw] The Acolytes & The Rock vs Chris Benoit & Edge & Christian
E&C forfeiting the pose to Benoit, and Benoit's grin, is hilarious. Match itself is a fun little sprint that makes good use of the Acolytes' power offense (the Bradshaw power bomb is great). Bradshaw even does a decent job of selling in the heat segment, with the bits of him struggling to get the tag working nicely. Simple bit effective heel work on the finish too.
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[2000-07-06-WWF-Smackdown] Edge & Christian & Chris Benoit vs The Rock & Eddy Guerrero & Chyna
Interesting to see the presentational differences between 2000 and 2018 (or really any time in the 2010s), as a main event six man tag nowadays would definitely have a commercial break after the entrances and probably one mid-match as well. So this ends up being a real fast sprint, with barely a shine and a quick heat segment to set up a comeback that's basically just Rock and Chyna hitting a couple of big moves. I actually have less of an issue with losing to Chyna (who's been presented pretty strongly) than the fact that they barely get in any offense.
- [2000-07-03-WWF-Raw] Edge & Christian vs Kane & The Undertaker
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[2000-06-29-WWF-Smackdown] Edge vs The Undertaker
I believe that clip had the first "Conchairto" - sort of amazing how over two months Edge and Christian went from relatively vanilla tag wrestlers to guys with such defined and entertaining characters. If you'd told me in 2000 that 8 years later I'd be watching Edge v. The Undertaker at Wrestlemania... well, I guess that would have seemed semi-plausible. But that I'd be really enjoying, it and their many month subsequent feud? That I would not have believed.
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[2000-06-26-WWF-Raw] Edge & Christian vs Kane & The Undertaker
Stuff like this (along with continually losing handicap matches to top guys) might have been one of the reasons they struggled to elevate the tag teams over the next couple of years when they went to singles. All the top teams got treated as JTTS whenever it was convenient for years before, instead of being even minimally protected.
- [2000-06-22-WWF-Smackdown] Edge & Christian vs Too Cool
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[2000-06-19-WWF-Raw] Edge vs Chris Jericho
The spear spot is pretty cool. Pretty strong performance from Edge here - as a guy who was working almost exclusively tags at this point, this is a good indication that he was capable of hanging with the better guys in the company for a singles match, at least a short one. (I know he was an IC champ the year before, but I don't recall the work being particularly good at that point.) With a less out of nowhere finish (the transition to the Walls felt really abrupt), I'd have stumped pretty hard for this match.
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[2000-06-15-WWF-Smackdown] Edge & Christian vs D-Von & Bubba Ray Dudley
By this point, they had set the bar so high with the poses that anything not city specific felt like a bit of a letdown for sure. It's super weird that on commentary here, Jerry Lawler has the better side of a gender issue ion 2017 (specifically, it's not cool for Bubba to be attacking women, no matter how "evil" Michael Cole thinks she is). The match itself is a pleasant enough use of 3 minutes.
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[2000-06-08-WWF-Smackdown] Edge & Christian & Kurt Angle vs D-Von & Bubba Ray Dudley (Handicap)
The Angle promo here is tremendous. My wife is from Buffalo, so i can understand why that pose was high level cheap heat. Maybe as cheap but as effective as you can get. Match is really nothing, but it doesn't hurt anyone here and just puts over 3D (still a killer move all these years later).
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[2000-06-05-WWF-Raw] Edge & Christian & Kurt Angle vs Chris Jericho & D-Von & Bubba Ray Dudley
As someone who had an ex from Rochester and spent some time there, I wholeheartedly endorse E&C's take on the city. Interesting choice to have Jericho get the shine and take the heat, but given the limited time for the match, it's probably the best choice. Bubba takes a nice hot tag to lead into the finish. Fun little match.
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[2000-05-29-WWF-Raw] Edge & Christian vs Too Cool
My best friend at the time was a giant Too Cool mark. And I enjoyed them as well - they were so purely goofy that it worked. If they'd committed anything less than fully, it's a terrible gimmick - but played to the hilt it worked really well in the moment. The build with the backstage vignettes with E&C and Joe C (with the E&C initially thinking he's Verne Troyer) are great, and nicely pay off here. Nothing as a match, but a really nice moment with a big reaction from the crowd.
- [2000-05-21-WWF-Judgment Day] Edge & Christian & Kurt Angle vs Too Cool & Rikishi
- [2000-05-15-WWF-Raw] Edge & Christian vs Matt & Jeff Hardy vs The Acolytes