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To me, the right move is to put the titles on FTR. I don't think the audience is going to turn them heel and, if they're both healthy, they're the best working team on the roster. They're also, IMO, a harder team to book without the titles than The Acclaimed. The Acclaimed are over enough with their catchphrases and their gimmicks to carry their segments quite handily (without the titles). You don't need them to put in a 20-minute match or try to work a clinic on every PPV. But with their intro rap and building up to some sort of Billy Gunn involvement, they can usually keep the crowd interest for an easy 10-12 minutes. They're such larger-than-life characters that they're perfectly fine foils for the lesser teams like the Ass Boys, Butcher & Blade, Bear Country, etc. and then are also over enough to make them potentially interesting opponents for the Bucks and FTRs of the company. I'm not sure FTR vs. Butcher & Blade works the same way without the titles. Same for FTR vs. the Ass Boys or FTR vs. some combo of JAS or BCC members. To me, FTR are that team whose gimmick really relies on them being able to say they're the best ("no gimmicks needed") and those sorts of characters are far easier to book, promote, and give credibility to when they have the titles. Plus, with Billy Gunn still able to do some work in the ring, they can fairly quickly and easily be transitioned into the 6-man "division" in a way that is more organic than finding a new buddy for FTR.

Its almost like Ronda Rousey, who's still understandably green when you consider the actual amount of matches she's had and how long of a break she took, looks great when she's given world class opponents who are very over with the audience (Charlotte, Becky, Sasha) or are big enough personalities/gimmicks to provide a nice contrast (Alexa Bliss, Nia Jax, Stephanie McMahon). Liv Morgan is neither. Shotzi is neither. Nattie is neither. Rousey isn't and has never been a super worker that was going to carry lesser talents to great matches. I think the bigger issue is whether or not Rousey thinks she's a super worker or if she's self-aware enough to recognize that she shines when she's in the ring with a more experienced wrestler and should do like Lesnar and hand-pick opponents that will allow her to shine. Lesnar against Danielson? Great. Against AJ? Awesome. Against Samoa Joe? Kickass match. Lesnar clearly likes working Reigns. But against Strowman? He didn't seem too eager to do a rematch. I'd reckon that he wouldn't be interested in facing Omos or Ridge Holland or any other guy whose still at that "not there yet" level. And, to be clear, Lesnar, when motivated and healthy, is actually talented enough and experienced enough to carry someone while Rousey, in comparison, is still a long ways from being able to do that.

Its almost like Ronda Rousey, who's still understandably green when you consider the actual amount of matches she's had and how long of a break she took, looks great when she's given world class opponents who are very over with the audience (Charlotte, Becky, Sasha) or are big enough personalities/gimmicks to provide a nice contrast (Alexa Bliss, Nia Jax, Stephanie McMahon). Liv Morgan is neither. Shotzi is neither. Nattie is neither. Rousey isn't and has never been a super worker that was going to carry lesser talents to great matches. I think the bigger issue is whether or not Rousey thinks she's a super worker or if she's self-aware enough to recognize that she shines when she's in the ring with a more experienced wrestler and should do like Lesnar and hand-pick opponents that will allow her to shine. Lesnar against Danielson? Great. Against AJ? Awesome. Against Samoa Joe? Kickass match. Lesnar clearly likes working Reigns. But against Strowman? He didn't seem too eager to do a rematch. I'd reckon that he wouldn't be interested in facing Omos or Ridge Holland or any other guy whose still at that "not there yet" level. And, to be clear, Lesnar, when motivated and healthy, is actually talented enough and experienced enough to carry someone while Rousey, in comparison, is still a long ways from being able to do that.

Hey y'all, surprised this hasn't been discussed yet. There's a show on Peacock called Dangerous Breed that is all about Teddy Hart and his connection with a missing young woman named Samantha Fiddle. The story is way more interesting than the show, which I would say is basic cable-level true crime, sub-Dateline stuff. The documentary filmmaker who was filming Teddy over the past 10 years and is basically narrating the story is a bit annoying and needlessly inserts himself into the story (when I think a more straightforward Dateline-esque style would be better) and it does seem like this is one of those shows (like the new Pepsi documentary on Netflix) that could've been wrapped up in 90 minutes rather than 2.5+ hours or whatever. On the plus side, if you can handle watching a legit scumbag monster, Teddy Hart is one of the most insane characters in wrestling. He *was* one of my favorite podcast guests just because you never knew what this guy was going to say and he doesn't disappoint in terms of delivering ridiculous soundbites on this show. Of course, learning that he's a rapist and serial abuser means I won't be seeking out his appearances like I did when I just thought he was a drugged-out lunatic who only harmed himself. What might be even crazier than the story is that, towards the end of the second episode I noticed that it seems like the WWE is getting some sort of production credit. Like, woah. This being on Peacock means the WWE was going to be, at the very least, made aware of the doc, but its odd to see their logo anywhere near this show. I mean, its like seeing an NFL logo if someone made a documentary about OJ Simpson's murder trial. Like, sure, the WWE could/should let a Peacock-produced documentary use whatever limited footage of Teddy Hart they have in their vault from 20 years ago, but his connection to the company is so peripheral at this point that I don't know why they'd want their logo flashed on the screen for even a split second. Anyway, I'm curious about what everyone else thinks/knows about this story.

I disagree. In 97', after the Montreal Screwjob, after Bret left, Shawn Michaels and DX continued to mock Bret Hart. If I'm not mistaken, they did a segment where they beat down Jim Neidhart. Owen Hart came back in December 97' and they essentially beat him down and stuck him in a midcard feud with Triple H (that I think he lost) when most people would've reasonably said that he would've been a natural opponent for Shawn in January/February. But to say that Shawn didn't get his ass kicked is forgetting that, ultimately, it was "Stone Cold" Steve Austin who was given that spot and when he beat HBK for the title and started hitting stunners on Vince, it was Austin who was working as not just the audience surrogate but - in a very real sense - a Bret Hart surrogate. Similarly, in WCW, there was a fairly widespread feeling that they had botched Sting's victory at Starrcade 97'. That's not a revisionist thought. I was 13 years old and I remember watching that show, full-on pizza party sleepover with my fellow wrestling nerds, and all of us feeling a bit deflated by it. We were "smart" in the way that 13 year olds who frequented RSPW were "smart." So when Goldberg came onto the scene and started systematically taking out the nWo members and then whupping Hogan's ass clean on TV? That felt like the victory that Sting didn't get. I bring these up because, if you're a fan holding onto hope that CM Punk is going to be the guy to take down the Elite, you are likely to be out of luck. But CM Punk not being in that spot could mean that another star - like Austin was, like Goldberg was - becomes that fan surrogate. The fun thing is that AEW has several guys that might fit that bill. MJF would have a field day if he was allowed to cut loose on Omega and the Bucks. You could do a Wardlow-as-Batista vs. Omega-as-Triple H type thing. I'm not sure how you'd get there, but I'm a big Ricky Starks fan and wouldn't mind seeing him go up against the Elite (maybe even backed up by FTR). I think Hangman Page's potential to be that guy has passed, but I could see Jungle Boy involved in some sort of longterm Elite storyline. I'm not sure it will ever happen now, but Adam Cole and Kyle O'Reilly seemed to be "penciled in" for a feud with the Elite at one point. Saying that the Elite will never get their comeuppance seems a bit premature, just like saying that the Elite's mocking of CM Punk is "building to nothing." If their actions get people talking, get people wanting them to get beaten up, get people wondering what they'll do to antagonize the audience next, it doesn't need to be CM Punk who puts them in their place. And they don't need to be in their place next week or next month either. If anything, as someone else pointed out, drawing out Kenny Omega's next major defeat is a recipe that worked in the past and there's no reason to think it can't work again.

If I were Ricky Starks, I'd try to get a remix going of his current song with Ghostface. Usually Ghostface and/or Raekwon + horns = bombastic braggadocios awesomeness and, I dunno, listening to his theme, it just screams should-be Wu banger to me. * And I know some of Ghost's views aren't super PC and would likely offend people with more progressive, liberal views, but its pretty easy to separate art from artists with the Wu for me.

Sorry, Outsider, your post reads like someone who's just "butthurt" because you're a Mox fan and were inexplicably holding on hope that Tony Khan was going to keep the title on a guy who openly was about to take a much-needed and deserved vacation after the last pay-per-view. Dude, this outcome was written in stone months ago and the only question was how MJF was going to win the title, not if. I also think all this talk of ratings is ignoring the much bigger issues - namely attendance (which is down) and, for lack of better words, "buzz" (which is not what it was). AEW is still performing considerably higher in TV ratings than initially expected (remember when folks said that AEW getting 250k weekly viewers would be a coup) and what TBS/TNT is paying for. Could AEW end up shit-canned because the people at the top believe it'd be cheaper and more lucrative to just play Big Bang Theory repeats and first-run movies on Wednesdays and Fridays? Sure. But AEW is still, more often than not, a top 5 cable show on its nights (at least Dynamite is) and its biggest rivals are live sports and politics, which aren't going away and are also not things that TBS/TNT are necessarily able to counterprogram (especially as the US is now in perpetual election cycle). Plus, we are talking about a genre and brand that could theoretically catch fire and go right back to drawing in the 900k-1 million range. (Don't think so? This time last year, people were saying the WWE was irrevocably damaged and would only continue to be basically unwatchable garbage and that AEW was the "hotter" company, but, right now in November 2022, one could argue that the WWE is delivering and AEW is stagnant.) I'm still an AEW viewer first and foremost and am staying optimistic about MJF's reign. My hope is that this is leading to a Daniel Bryan/MJF match as I think Bryan is in contention for GOAT status and that he and MJF is kinda like one of those combos that you may not think would work, but is actually fucking peanut butter and chocolate.

Austin just needs someone like Owens last year - a heel that can do a little brawling in the crowd, bump for haymakers like they've been struck by lightning, and bounce off a Stunner. If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on Theory and its not because I'm an Austin Theory fan. The issue is that the WWE is a bit light on heels that fit the bill. Rollins just turned face but would've probably been the ideal candidate. I'd like to see The Miz in the spot, but for whatever reason, I'm not sure he'd get the nod despite being the best possible choice (he can carry the feud via promos when Austin isn't around and making a smoke-and-mirrors match work is actually one of his strong suits). Sami has a babyface-in-a-heel-stable vibe so I don't think he'd be the guy, though he obviously deserves some sort of big Mania match after being arguably the company MVP since last Mania. Then you've got heels that would just make no sense - Judgment Day, Karrion Kross, Lashley now (?), Corbin....I don't know, none really strike me as more realistic than Theory.

Triple H not revealing that the mystery participants are Beth Phoenix and/or Candice LeRae would be a real foreseeable misstep. Which is why, as long as those spots are TBD, my money is on Sasha Banks and Naomi returning. I think Triple H realizes something that Vince certainly didn't - the audience is sick of trolling from the company itself. Sure, heel characters can troll all day and night. Triple H did that non-stop as an on-screen character. But crowds hijacking shows? Booing babyfaces? Chanting for wrestlers you don't have under contract and can't deliver? Its a bad look. And an unnecessary one. If you announce Beth Phoenix on the go-home show, she gets a huge pop at the show and nobody can say there was a "bait and switch." Having an empty spot going into the show, in Sasha's hometown, with rumors that her and Naomi are returning (they were recently added back to the pre-show video package, I believe), and then bringing out Beth Phoenix is a Vince move not dissimilar to that Rumble where the fans were dying to see Bryan, but the last entrant ended up being Mysterio. Now, we all agree, Mysterio is an all-time babyface, just like I think we'd all agree that seeing Beth take it to Rhea will be a great moment, but this crowd is going to be wanting Sasha. There's no reason to tease something that you can't deliver and I think Triple H knows it.

I know Braun isn't the world's smartest or most eloquent man, but everyone jumping on him for what was clearly a tongue-in-cheek tweet is kinda cringe too. Braun has said some really dumb shit in the past, but this, to me, read more like he was trying to do an FTR-like thing ("No flips, just fists"), but because he has such a shit reputation, it flopped hard. The reference to earning 47 stars? Clearly a joke. Referencing that too many of the "flippy guys" look like grocery store employees and couldn't pass the "Airport Test"? Seems perfectly within bounds from a kayfabe perspective and, if he really was trying to talk down about the smaller guys on the roster or in other companies, he did it in such a general way that it's barely a recognizable slight. Again, not defending every dumb thing Braun's ever tweeted, but this latest tweet was so clearly just a failed attempt at humor that I actually feel sorry for the guy a little. And, yeah, I know Strowman's involvement in the Control Your Narrative shit was lame, but it felt like he was just seeking some work at whoever was willing to pay him. Meanwhile, Chris "My Wife Was Actually At The January 6th Failed Coup" Jericho piling on is his usual M.O of jumping on any opportunity to promote himself and Mustafa Ali, well, I like the guy, but, dude, Braun Strowman ain't one of the people who booked you on the midcard hamster wheel for the past 3 years.

- I'm surprised that everyone is so on-board with this MJF face turn. To me, his promo last night felt a bit like pandering at times ("I love you West Virginia...despite your shortcomings"). I dunno. Just feels like they rushed through the inner turmoil stuff when that's the most captivating part. The post above mentions The Rock in 98', but MJF last night seemed like The Rock in 2000 - fully-established babyface and mostly just testing catchphrases to see what the next tee-shirt design should be. Again, I'm not saying MJF shouldn't be a babyface, but it just seems a bit sudden and out-of-character for him this soon *and* while he's building a match towards another babyface. I would've kept this face turn on simmer until Full Gear, have him win clean there (or relatively), and then, on the next Dynamite, have his first challenger be a heel (and please not be Smart Mark Sterling or Jay Lethal). Maybe that's too obvious, but to me, that was the beauty of Austin (and The Rock) going from heel-to-face: they didn't change the character, they just changed the positioning. - Also, I know this won't be a popular note, but Renee is so damn good at what she does...but she looked like New Brood-era Matt Hardy last night. Call me old fashioned, but I want my commentators and interviewers and announcers to be dressed like real sportscasters. I know there are exceptions, but Renee shouldn't be one of them when, during her WWE run, she genuinely came across like she could co-anchor SportsCenter or be interviewing athletes at the Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, or World Series. Sean Mooney couldn't do that shit. Mean Gene? Nope. Not Cole or even JR either. But Renee had that quality. Maybe having the freedom of her wardrobe is a major plus for her and allows her to show her laidback, fun personality...but from a viewer's perspective, as the old adage goes, there should be a difference between how the fans in the crowd look and how the people on TV look. She looked like a fan. I miss the broadcaster that looked like she'd been grown in a lab by ESPN-sponsored scientists for maximum marketability and professionalism. - I'm gonna go ahead and contradict myself. My first point was that MJF's face turn seems too rushed, but I'm gonna just go ahead and say I'd be perfectly fine if we skipped a few weeks and had Swerve as a major heel. Like, I don't need the turn on Keith Lee or even a feud between the two. Just give me Swerve being an asshole and guys like Darby or Starks or Wardlow trying to unsuccessfully shut him up.

This might deserve its own thread, but.... WrestleMania XIII: The Show That Never Was (too dramatic?) I've been watching the WWE PPVs from November 96' - January 97' and it has me thinking about the direction the WWE was going in before Shawn "lost his smile" and Vince had to re-calibrate WrestleMania XIII. In December 96', it certainly seems like they're building to Bret vs. Shawn. Shawn dropping the title to Sid and winning it back at the Rumble seems like it was always the plan just based on the storyline and the location of the Rumble being in Shawn's home state. Austin was engaged in an on-going feud with Bulldog and while they could've ended that feud at the February In Your House, I'm thinking the real story there was that it was going to be Bret vs. Austin for the title shot (due to the ending of the Rumble) and maybe Bulldog screws Austin. Does this make Bret less a face? It sure does...but re-watching the In Your House: It's Time show, it seems like Bret was already drifting towards heel anyway. His works the match against Sid there as a 90% heel. Meanwhile, at the Rumble, Vader beats Undertaker with help from Paul Bearer. Seems to me like a rematch at Mania was in the cards there. The Ahmed Johnson/NOD feud isn't disrupted at all by Shawn's departure. The Chicago Street Fight still happens 100% as planned. But it does leave a handful of guys and titles without a match...for example, if Sid isn't the champion going into Mania, what is his match? Does he face Owen (1/2 half of the Tag Team Champions)? I kinda love the idea of a Sid vs. Mankind match personally just because Foley was so damn good around this time. So...here's the card for if Shawn doesn't leave and I have the pen... WWE Championship Match - Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels * I think it'd be extra interesting because the Chicago crowd would've probably cheered Bret even if he was going into the match as a "tweener." Its one of those things where I think the WWE's diehard fanbase had fairly clearly seen Austin as the new top babyface, Bret as the whiny-but-respectable veteran, and Shawn as the pandering pretty boy. So it makes sense they'd cheer Austin over Bret, but no way does Shawn get cheered over the Hitman in Chicago in 97'. Undertaker vs. Vader Austin vs. Bulldog Sid vs. Mankind Ahmed Johnson & LOD vs. Farooq/Vega/Crush (Chicago Street Fight) Helmsley vs. Goldust Owen Hart vs. Rocky Miavia - or - Flash Funk * I like the idea of either feud just because I think Owen would've made it work. If it's Miavia, I'd have loved to see Owen take umbrage with Rocky's "3rd generation" superstar hype by talking about how the Hart Family are the true greatest wrestling family in history. If its Funk, I think you could still do something fun with Owen claiming he's a better dancer than Flash and then the match itself would've been a nice display of high-flying and speed and whatnot. The actual show had a 4-way tag match involving a bunch of B-level teams. I guess that would fill out the card.

With all the talk about Bray these days, how could I forget Waylon Mercy being Max Cady from Cape Fear?

Maybe its been asked in another thread or even on r/SC, but can anyone maybe rattle off a list of 5-10 other WWE/WCW superstars that were as blatant a rip-off of an existing IP as Dexter Lumis. My first thought is Jason The Terrible. I don't know much about the character or his career, but I presume he was just basically "Jason" from Friday the 13th? Impervious to pain, slow moving brawler? Any which way, as far as I know, he never made it to the WWE, WCW, or even ECW with that particular gimmick. Then I think of Magnum TA looking like Tom Selleck, but even then, it wasn't like Magnum TA's gimmick was that he was a private eye who resided in Hawaii. The Goon was sorta like one of those brothers from Slap Shot, but I could also him being based on Bob Probert. I know in Japan various wrestlers have been based on popular mangas and anime (?), but I'm thinking more in the US. So, I put it out to all you wrestling superfans, who else would you compare Dexter Lumis as a gimmick that is just so, so, so obviously based on an existing IP (Dexter Morgan from the Dexter books and TV series). I mean, they didn't even change his first name. I feel like I'm drawing a blank but there are a ton of examples I just can't think of...

Just google'd him. Yeah, he looks fine. Sign him. A friend also mentioned Karrion Kross as a great first guy to squash. That's the best idea I've heard. Kross is going nowhere unless he can discover a personality. I just don't see him connecting with the audience in any sort of way, especially on a roster that is already crowded with solid heels, including people I don't even think are all that great like Baron Corbin. Kross would benefit from a foil that can inject some life into his act and maybe even force him to discover whatever's "missing." I know Gunther was a can't miss prospect, but damn if this rivalry with Sheamus hasn't clearly pushed him to that next level. Kross is like 3-4 levels below that.

Its hard to say whether it was because was Vince in her ear or not, but I did not find her to be great on commentary. I think she's a fantastic interviewer/host, though, and in that role, she could add to the flow of the show the same way that I think Gene Okerlund did for Nitro in its early years. I know people don't look back too fondly on Gene's WCW days, but rewatching some of those shows recently, they really did flow well and he was often the conduit between segments.

- Just finished the show. Thought most of it was in the fine-to-good range. - The opener was the best match on the show and it really wasn't all that close. - I'd be curious to know who the agent/producer was for the Rousey/Morgan match. We knew this wasn't going to be a MOTY candidate, but there were some very bad choices made on the agent/producer end that didn't help. First, you have a simple story to tell, so tell that story (and just try to do it well). Yes, Morgan has somehow snuck away with two wins over Rousey, but this is still David vs. Goliath and Morgan, to gain control, needed to have some sort of lucky weapons shot early to re-establish why Rousey can't just destroy her. I know Rousey's aura is not what it once was, but Liv Morgan is still not at the level to be booked like her equal. But even that wasn't as offensive as the actual ending, which saw Morgan inexplicably smile as Rousey forced her to submit/pass out. So now Morgan is, like, into pain? Like a creepy masochist gimmick? Its not a remotely original idea anyway and it made Rousey's win feel lesser and was distracting and just plain dumb. - I expected a bit more creativity in the Bayley/Bianca match. The best spot was Bayley's running elbow drop onto the ladder when it was set up between the barricade the steps. It looked great and felt like something we haven't seen before. Second best was probably the KOD with the ladder. To me, this match needed a touch more of that and less of the same ol' spots we get in every ladder match. I also think they suffered just a touch from an audience that is now really, really expecting Sasha and Naomi to show up at any time. (The same thing happened in the main event as it felt like a segment of the audience was more focused on Bray's predicted return and not Rollins/Riddle.) - We can all hate on Wyatt all we want, but let's not deny how over he can be at times. This past Saturday was one of those times and I expect he'll continue to get huge reactions and sell a ton of merch for weeks to come. The Undertaker sucked for longer than he was good. Kane sucked forever. But these characters undeniably made the company money. I'm okay with Wyatt getting his 15 minutes of screen time every week. But, like Taker in the 90s, they need to really cater his feuds and storylines and, for the most part, keep him separate from championships and "serious" wrestlers. Like, literally do what they did with Taker and bring in oddities and monsters for him to feud with. I'm not sure who the Kamala-of-2022 is on the indie scene, but bring in whoever that is. Bring back The Boogeyman. Don't treat Wyatt like a regular performer and instead treat him like a TV character designed to sell tee-shirts to the people who actually like the gimmick. These people are not interested in workrate or technical ability or traditional wrestling. They want the spectacle. They want the entrance. Give them that without sacrificing the credibility of other valuable wrestlers.

- I was wondering where Dan Lambert was. I know he wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but he got heat. I'd have kept him around. I know Stokely has a great rep, but I haven't seen the greatness yet. - TK has a real chance for a do-over and I hope he takes it. Yes, he's got 3 hours to fill a week and Dark/Elevation (though, does he really need to fill those hours and how much a roster do you really need for those? Video packages and squash matches don't necessitate a roster as bloated as he has). Its time to trim the fat and I'd start with the malcontents. I'm an Andrade fan...but I think he's a guy who needs a better coach and TK is not it. In Triple H's NXT, he came off as a star. In AEW, from the gimp mask to the baseball pants to the bland, useless manager, the entire presentation needs to be thrown away. Maybe if he were to go back to WWE, Triple H would put him back with Zelina and they could see if what worked in NXT would work again. (And if Andrade getting cut means his friends leave too, so be it.) I'll say the same about Black and Miro and FTR and Punk. Though, optimistically, I hope that if they trim some of the fat, Miro and FTR would be featured more and then be happier. - If you can't find something fun to do with Danhausen for Halloween, you clearly have no use for Danhausen. I like the guy and would guess that he has some good ideas to pitch - maybe listen to them. If they're shitty, cut him loose. Here's a free one if you're reading this, TK: pair him with Abadon and make it Jade's October storyline. Basically, TK needs to sit down and really look at what 25 wrestlers/performers he needs. Break that 25 into who he wants to push - maybe 15, the other 10 on the backburner. Then look at what additional 15 wrestlers he needs to fill out shows. Basically, pretend like you can't afford everyone. Like you didn't cheat your Extreme Warfare Revenge game by editing the file to start with the maximum amount of money. Based on a random google search, the AEW roster is over 150 performers (one website has it as 180). But lets be extra conservative and say 120 for 3 hours of TV and no house shows. I'll rewrite that for emphasis: 120 performers for 180 minutes and zero house shows. If it was 75 wrestlers, that would be too many for 3 hours of TV and no house shows. But its not 75. Its 50 more than that conservatively and maybe as much as 100 more than that. More performers than you actually have minutes to show in a given week and, technically, it only takes two wrestlers, a referee, and 2 announcers to fill 20 minutes at a time. This roster shouldn't be more than 60-70, so the fact that it is at least 2.5x that, well, maybe one can imagine why Andrade might feel like he's not getting enough screen time or the chance to become a star when the shows he's on also feature guys like Lee Moriarty and Ryan Nemeth (who I like). Its a bit hard to call your wrestling company "all elite" when its 130 wrestlers that nobody really cares about and 30 that are inexplicably fighting them for airtime. And also, as I wrote about in the last page, hard to sell the concept of "all elite" wrestling to potential ticket buyers when you're being asked to buy a ticket to a show headlined by John Silver vs. Rush instead of, y'know, any single one of the dozen guys you have on your roster who've actually main evented a major show for a major promotion in the past decade (including your own).

I posted a similar thought on Reddit, but, to me, part of the issue - and its not entirely TK's fault - is that for a roster loaded with talent, there's often question marks about what you might actually get when you buy a ticket for a show a month or 3 weeks later. When's the last time an episode of Dynamite featured even 50% of the stars in the company - Omega, Punk, The Bucks, Danielson, Mox, Kingston, Hangman, Jeff Hardy, Jericho, Britt Baker, Adam Page, Miro, FTR, Malachai Black, the Lucha Bros, Darby, Starks, Christian, Samoa Joe... I'm sorry, but when you give me Jay Lethal and Tony Nese and Luchasaurus every week, well...I'm just not interested in paying $50+ to see a show where I'm not getting the big stars. Again, I know that you can't book all these talents onto a single show and that injuries/suspensions (and now weather and pandemics) make it even harder, but TK has talent that is over and healthy and still seem under-exposed. Like, dude, you're paying these people. Put them on the show!

Maybe you insert FTR into the Tag Titles match? I think Lee/Swerve as heels who are able to somehow escape with the titles against two very popular tag teams is the route I would take. I like The Acclaimed, but they wouldn't be the team I'd want as the centerpiece of my tag division when you consider who else you have at your disposal. Like, they wouldn't even be my third or fourth pick. I also think that turning Lee and Swerve heel is the right move here and one that, if I was Lee and Swerve, I'd be vocally pushing for. Right now, they're not the most popular babyface team on the roster. They're not the second most popular babyface team on the roster. They might not even be the third most popular team on the roster. But you know what spot they could be? The most hated team on the roster. If you can't be the top babyface, be the top heel.

Unpopular Opinion Alert: I think the best Survivor Series shows have had a mix of matches. I like the 5-on-5s and 4-on-4s, sure, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think that Survivor Series hasn't given us some really, really exciting 1-on-1 matches over the years too (Lesnar/Daniel Bryan, Rousey/Charlotte, that crazy Goldberg/Lesnar squash, obviously Hart/Michaels in 97'). To me, every match being a Survivors match is just as bad as every match being in a cage on those Lockdown PPVs TNA used to (?) run. I say the same thing with a WWE PPV is only singles matches. Why hamstring your own show by not leaning into the wide variety of match types you can use? 2-3 Survivors matches on the show, a big War Games main event, and a pair of compelling RAW and SD Women's Championship matches sounds good to me. I think the inclusion of War Games is unnecessary, but I'm up for it just because I think the Bloodline storyline fits so well with it. I'm also hoping that Triple H opts to let someone get a little "color." The WWE doesn't need to deliver a bloodbath like AEW does in their version, but, y'know, a little bit of juice would go a long way in establishing War Games as a violent, serious match. I'm hoping this recent quote is a bit of a red herring so that people don't expect a really gory War Games match and then he can "overdeliver" by at least having someone do a small blade job (which would be consistent with what we've seen semi-recently with guys getting opened up but matches not being stopped).

Surprised none of the reviews above - aside from mentioning the "pussy grab"* - talks about how basically near-bottomless Mickie James is in this. Like, yes, there had been Bra & Panty matches and bikini matches in the WWE before, but this match is different because they actually wrestle a real, physical, action-packed match. I don't think there's any other match that I've seen, definitely not in the WWE but nowhere else I can think of either, that mixes the NC-17/almost X-rated vibe of WWE at their skeaziest to the physicality, competitiveness, and athleticism that the women's division would eventually highlight. This match isn't "ahead of its time" because, character-wise and storyline-wise and presentation wise, the WWE would never do something this outright vulgar today. (On Peacock, after Mickie delivers the Donald Trump Special, it cuts to the crowd, but IIRC, she actually licked her hand afterwards too and they showed it on the live feed) But its also not "of its time" because, unless you caught a random good match involving Ivory or Victoria or Trish or Jazz or whoever, nobody was watching WWE to see great women's wrestling in the 00s. This match really had the crowd fully into it and seemed like a big deal and there was much more intrigue around it than, say, the Henry/Taker match that follows it (which isn't even all that terrible, but nobody on Earth thought Henry had any chance of winning) or the JBL/Benoit match for the US Title earlier on the show. To me, this is good enough to be considered a "must see" match, especially for people who may think "WWE + the 00s + Trish Stratus = overrated fanboy garbage." No, this match somehow features kick-ass action, a great story, awesome character work, and will also give you very impure thoughts and there's something to be said for being the only match that does all 4 of those things really, really well. * I'm going to go ahead and dub the move "The Donald Trump Special" because of, y'know, Trump's admitted penchant for grabbing women by the crotch.

Even if you and I (and most people) were to agree that CM Punk was in the wrong, that doesn't mean Kenny and the Bucks don't have heat with a segment of the AEW audience. Punk was clearly in a shit mood after All Out (likely because he'd just re-injured himself, but also because he's CM Punk). TK is an absolute idiot for putting a live mic in front of a guy who came into the scrum in a shit mood. However, nobody forced Omega and the Bucks to come into Punk's locker room after. That's not how anyone de-escalates a conflict. Their actions, whether you think they were justified or not, tarnished the memory of the show and the AEW brand and caused a whole hell of a lot of issues. If CM Punk had went off at the scrum and Omega and the Bucks let it slide for 24 hours and then maybe approached him in a civilized manner, things would look so much different. But right now, and I don't think I'm alone, I feel disheartened about the whole AEW enterprise. I enjoy CM Punk as an on-screen character and wanted to see what the next chapter with MJF would be. I wanted to see what Omega and the Bucks were going to do with the Trios Championship to combat the "They're just vanity titles" narrative. I wanted to see what Tony Khan had planned because he was undoubtedly already feeling the heat from the WWE. All of those things were torpedoed within 24 hours.* I'm probably in the minority, but I know my spirit and excitement for AEW is the lowest its ever been and I didn't bother tuning in or watching (on delay) any of last week's shows after probably watching Dynamite 90% of the time over the past two years. I don't even know if I will this week. There's loads of other wrestling to watch, past and present. I'm not sure I want to watch a show that I used to love just flounder and go through the motions. * Obviously, Punk's injury would've been a factor even if the scrum/backstage fight doesn't happen, but if all we were talking about was Punk re-injuring himself, I don't think this thread would be 10+ pages.

I also think some of the reactions to BTE's hiatus is making a mountain out of a molehill. Its now been over a week since the incident and its basically impossible to hold onto anger for that long. I'm guessing Omega and the Bucks are thinking that while they don't want to work with CM Punk and would probably prefer he was out of the company, they also realize how their own actions led to a very embarrassing incident that was detrimental to their own brand and the wrestling company they helped start. It was always too idealistic to think that they, with Tony Khan and Cody Rhodes, could create a wrestling utopia, but that seemed like part of their vision. For awhile, many fans bought into it. Over the past year, the downturn in booking showed that, in terms of content/storylines, the lofty ideal of the "perfect" wrestling show was impossible to sustain. There were multiple reports of TK's leadership not being great. However, the events of All Out weekend completely shattered whatever remained of the notion that the locker room and TK's leadership were still united and strong. The Bucks and Omega are probably smart enough to see their role in that. So, maybe the BTE hiatus is them reading the room a bit. I don't think even their fans are in the mood to laugh at their hijinks right now considering how much a shit storm they were involved in (even if we can debate whether they caused it). Maybe they aren't in the mood to do videos with cleverly veiled jokes and references to getting legitimately suspended from the company they helped start. I'd be embarrassed too. I'd want to take a break too. Its only been 7 days, though. Embarrassment and self-doubt doesn't last forever. I predict that CM Punk will be out and that when the Bucks and Omega return in 4-6 weeks (?), it will not be in some sort of victory parade where they make light of Punk's firing or act like they ran him out of town. I'm guessing they never mention him, even in a veiled reference, on-screen. It wouldn't help them. It wouldn't win them any new fans. I'm guessing that even they recognize that, at this point, they have to win back some trust from the audience for the sake of AEW. They need to make AEW "fun" again, recapture the spirit that, right now, Triple H has brought back to the WWE. Excitement. Good cheer. Optimism. AEW had a monopoly on those things up until semi-recently. I don't see the Bucks and/or Omega quitting on AEW unless Tony Khan really pushes their hand.

The # of buys shouldn't necessarily be worrying, but it should be a wake up call, like Jmare said. I'm not sure what TK, Punk, or Mox were thinking they were accomplishing with that messy, convoluted stunt they pulled two weeks before the show aside from drawing a good TV number (but not really all that good of one). We'll never know if it really hurt or helped - maybe the show would've done even worse without the angle - but the angle angle made me less likely to purchase the PPV and I ended up passing on it. I wonder if there were more of me out there or the opposite (I'd bet on me). I think Danielson/Jericho was a misfire too. I think what people want to see out of Jericho is the "smoke and mirrors." He's the sports entertainer guy. He's in his 50s and looks it. But nonsense, kitchen sink stable war matches? Yes, please. Heated death matches based on blood feuds? Sounds great. The occasional cocky veteran/young underdog dynamic? Jericho can do that. But those are matches and dynamics that are really counter to what people want out of Danielson. Danielson is the wrestler's wrestler, the technical whiz, and I think the AEW (and many of us here) want to see him in matches that are either "dream matches" or matches that have the potential to be technical classics. I think the live audience wants to be there for matches that people go "Holy shit, that was a 6-star match" for. I think, booked differently, he and Daniel Garcia could've had that match on that show and it would've been a big deal - maybe not necessarily a "draw" as big as Jericho/Danielson is on a marquee, but hey, clearly Jericho/Danielson didn't have much pull either. The Trios tournament not only felt rushed (with multiple 3-man teams/stables not even in the thing), but it added another title into a company that is full of them. It very much feels, rightly or wrongly, like a vanity title for the Elite to wear. To me, there was nothing exciting about that tournament or the finals that made me say, "I have to see that." I can go on and on about how the rest of the card was a mix of "awkwardly built" to outright head-scratching, but I'll stop here. To me, the good news is that they have a real opportunity to course correct right now and hopefully they'll make that happen. Like many here, I like AEW, but I want to love AEW. The build for this PPV was not something I loved and it seems like I wasn't alone.