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Thanks, Timbo. That makes sense. But I can't agree that people who pay $79 a year for Amazon Prime wouldn't want to watch the "free" streaming movies they get through Amazon Prime Instant Video (sort of Amazon's answer to Netflix), even if they also use iTunes. That's like saying people who use iTunes would have no interest in Netflix. Then again, all of these little boxes have their pros and cons. If HBO Go through Comcast only works with Apple TV, that's a pretty big plus. But Roku just added HBO Go/Direct TV access, so maybe Comcast won't be far behind. Kind of ridiculous that DTV and Comcast greedily withheld HBO Go from streaming boxes for so long (and still are, in some cases). But I'm taking this thread way off-topic, I fear, so I'll conclude that I'm glad we'll all be able to enjoy WWE Network no matter what box we have.

I'm confused too, because the Roku doesn't have a web browser either. But more than likely, you'll have to activate your membership through a PC at www.wwe.com/roku or something like that. Not trolling, but what is the appeal of Apple TV? I'm asking out of genuine curiosity. From what I understand, it doesn't run Amazon Instant Video either (if this is wrong, LMK). So, if it's more limited, why choose it over Roku? Obviously, I'm missing something, because a lot of people have Apple TVs.

Also added to the Roku store. When you open it, it just gives you a disclaimer to check back Monday. http://www.roku.com/channels/#!details/37966/wwe

Pretty sure that was a Vince Russo worked-shoot special.

Jerry, I can't tell if you're a film professor, a history professor, or both. As someone who took film classes several years ago, yeah, most of the kids there knew fuck-all about Godfather, Kubrick, etc. (I was a few years older.) The problem is, most people see those classes as "we watch movies the whole time, yeah!!!" and "it's an easy A." Before college, kids generally don't really view film as anything other than instant, disposable entertainment. They also aren't exposed to the classics, generally because they don't have an open mind. "Ewwww, that's old." I'm not painting ALL kids with that brush - some are more knowledgeable and open-minded than others - but most of them only care about the latest and greatest blockbuster. To be fair to today's youth though, at 18, 19, 20 years old, regardless of how much of a movie buff they may be (and I again acknowledge that most are not), they're still just KIDS and there will inevitably be gaps in what they have seen. I didn't see Godfather until around that age, even though I had known for years beforehand that it was regarded as a major classic. There are SO many movies, not enough time in a day, and a million things dividing their time and interests. I consider myself knowledgeable about movies, but I'd be lying if I said I've seen every single acclaimed classic. Even now, I still haven't. I don't think anyone can really say they have. There are just so many. As for history, you're right, it's not taught well. All kids get are the broad strokes, and never in an interesting, informative way that would make those events part of their general knowledge. To them, it's just more boring bullshit data they have to memorize. I blame the school system in that case.

Wow, interesting stuff with the Meltzer report. Whether he's right or wrong, Savage obviously believed that Shawn was selfish and went over. Not exactly a stretch considering HBK's personality at the time. Plus, I refuse to believe Macho/Crush was supposed to be that short. Makes no sense to me. It felt rushed, even then.

Fair enough, but can't the button somehow be removed entirely?

Since I'm here, the "Like This" button seems to have a bug. I haven't voted for anything else, so something's wrong there.

NOW I see it. It's in a very faded font unless I hover my mouse over it, so that explains how I missed it the first time. Thanks!

Am I missing something or is there no edit post option? Come to think of it, was there ever one? Edit: Yep, there is.

Some others that I don't think have been mentioned yet: - Bob Backlund "snapping" on Bret Hart was one of my favorite heel turns as a kid. - Jake turning on Ultimate Warrior after a series of bizarre vignettes that seemed like Satanic rituals to me at the time. This turn is obviously notable less for Warrior and more for the incredible Jake/Macho feud that followed. - Crush turning on Macho Man. Great feud but disappointing WrestleMania match (supposedly because HBK and Razor took up more time than they were supposed to - not that anyone is crying over that today, because the Ladder Match was an all-time classic) - The Natural Disasters' face turn that saw Jimmy Hart side with Money Inc. was weird and convoluted, but I liked it. - Jimmy Hart turning face by protecting Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake from Money Inc. - Ahmed Johnson turning heel to join the Nation only to be attacked by them a few weeks later were both equally shocking. Ultimately pointless, but shocking.

A great commercial, but I don't know if it had the intended effect. It reminded me of how much better Radio Shack used to be, and how irrelevant it is now.

Any chance for a darker theme (black/gray)? No complaints about current theme...just thought I'd ask.

Looks awesome! Finally back on after being shut out a few weeks ago (forgot my password and the site's captcha system was broken, so I coudn't reset it).

I always liked Rip, but seriously, has he ever drawn a dime in his life to be able to say with any authority what's good for business? Maybe part of is that Rip was never really utilized in a major promotion, but with WCW giving at least minor pushes to the likes of Firebreaker Chip and Joe Gomez, Rip probably could have gone places if he had anything at all. Am I being too harsh? Again, I actually liked what I saw of Rip.

What about The Hogan Family?

Getting shown on cable all the time is only one piece of the puzzle. Who talks with reverence, respect, or fond remembrance of Crocodile Dundee? Almost no one. Meanwhile, Breakfast Club is adored. Hogan, to a certain generation of casual fans, is also seen as "the man." No one holds Dundee in the same high esteem as Hogan and Ringwald/Brat Pack/John Hughes.

Not a chance. Not even in the '80s. But especially not now. Like I said with Ringwald, Paul Hogan had a couple of cups of coffee in the limelight. Hulk Hogan has had several straight decades. Still, Ringwald at least endures... Who gives a crap about Crocodile Dundee today? Not even the people who grew up with it.

Which is funny of you to say because she's actually been on a TV series for four seasons now - The Secret Life of the American Teenager. I don't think she's the star-star, but from what I understand, she has a fairly important role. (As the mother, I believe?) But TV has changed. Wrestling has changed. The world has changed. There were a lot less options in the '80s when Hogan ruled the roost. I think it's safe to say that more people know Hogan than Ringwald, just because of how distinctive he is, like you said, but also because he's had a much longer shelf life. Ringwald was big for a short period of time in the '80s and is experiencing a comeback now (if you can call it that), with very little in-between that garnered any major public recognition. Hogan, meanwhile, was on or near the top for 2-3 decades straight. More people had more chances to know him, even if Ringwald's '80s output is as "immortal" as Hogan's character. Still, the general public probably doesn't respect him the same way they might respect Ringwald. (I'm not saying Ringwald is Meryl Streep necessarily, but I'm willing to wager that people generally feel more affection and admiration for Ringwald than Hogan.) The problem with your data is that it relies solely on 1980s box office numbers. Even in the '80s, movies had a shelf life outside of theaters. Cable and VHS rentals made so many of them big past their theatrical run, including the John Hughes movies. The Princess Bride is another good example of that. That has since continued with DVD, Blu-Ray, Netflix, etc. Are you seriously going to tell me with a straight face that Witness, Out of Africa, and Cocoon are more enduring and beloved than the John Hughes films with Ringwald, or even the ones without her like Ferris? Crocodile Dundee was a major hit at the time, but it hasn't had the same staying power. It was a huge fad, almost like Hulk Hogan. But I don't think anyone outside of the '80s really knows or cares about Paul Hogan (the Croc actor).

Can't believe Larry Zbyszko and Williams & Gordy were mentioned. Larry was fun in The Enforcers, The Dangerous Alliance, and during his feud as a babyface against Regal. That match had me cheering Larry and booing Regal, even though I wasn't a Larry fan and always liked Regal. I've only seen the Williams & Gordy team in WCW, but I found them awesome to watch...very intense, in a way we rarely saw from that era (in America). Even the Triple H suggestion is a bit mind-boggling, though I can understand the sentiment, because he has been shoved down everyone's throats. I almost suggested Sting and Lex Luger. Against the right opponent, yes, they shined. But in normal, every day situations, I found them bland, bland, bland. Of all the things Sting especially is overrated for, charisma and personality top the list. Having spiky hair and facepaint does not equal personality. But to be fair, while they weren't as good as their spots, they were just good enough. So, I can't honestly suggest them. Maybe Marcus Alexander "Buff" Bagwell? Decent heel personality near the end, but I can't think of one truly great match he's had. Even then, I don't know... "Buff" was still a fun midcard gimmick. The problem is, no major league wrestler is boring in every aspect. They all have at least one thing going for them, even if that one thing is overshadowed by a million other deficits.

If you mean just putting Hansen in that spot for a big summer wrestling feud, yeah, it would have been cool. However, if you mean Hansen replacing Lister's character in the movie itself, no way. Lister is no Oscar winner, but he had the look that worked for posters and the screen presence needed to appear credible in the movie itself. I can't see Hansen being effective in the way that role called for. As I'm sure you already know, Hansen was in the movie too. Compare him to Zeus. Apples and oranges. Zeus looked better on screen. In the ring, different story, obviously.

So glad to see: 1991-11-19 The Enforcers (Arn Anderson & Larry Zbysko) vs Dustin Rhodes & Ricky Steamboat (WCW Tag Team Titles) (Clash Of The Champions 17) I had just gotten into wrestling a few months before that. The WWF first, then WCW. Seeing Steamboat jump from the WWF to WCW felt a big deal to me at the time. It really made WCW look semi-competitive. And it helps that this was probably the first truly great match I had seen at that point, being a young fan only a few months in.

I can see Tom being way out of the price range and having to settle for Ted McGinley. I actually prefer this to Cruise. McGinley would perfectly capture the fake, plastic, game show vibe of "Easy E."