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Curious why Dave omitted the reason Shawn and Jose had a falling out (disagreement over money with Shawn's wrestling school). Dave reported it several times in the past but left the obituary up to interpretation.

Shawn did enough to silence most critics

Looking forward to bald Shawn growing his beard out and showing Ciampa how it's done.

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If I'm that out of it that I'm just gonna chill there dangling on the 2nd rope, just pin me already. Not that his finisher had anything to do with my argument, but screw it, let's keep it moving along jovially.

I'm going to edit this because I'm done playing run around

Doesn't matter how many threads on here I lurk, I'll never in my life understand how or why Rey's offense was better than HBK's or Bret's. Shawn was an undersized babyface who had offence that was often shown to be at parity with his bigger opponents when it came to power. There are ways of doing that properly, but Shawn didn't. Rey was someone who used his size, which should have been a detriment in Vince's company, and turned it into a massive advantage. Every aspect of his offence emphasized his quickness and agility. He didn't engage in a punch-out when he fought Kane. I also do not see how Rey's offence did not look legit. Neither do I see why his punches being bad matters, since his punches were never a significant part of his arsenal. Rey never had any offense that looked as legitimate as the stuff Shawn displayed vs. guys like Diesel or Sid. Rey always relied on the guys bringing themselves down to him; Shawn brought it to them. Big difference.

It's painfully awful... Anyway I'm guessing Bryan, Funk, Hansen, Misawa, Flair in that order. Solid top 5. What exactly are you proposing is the reason he ranked so highly? I'd like to think we're above this kind of bad-faith reasoning here. Nice guy, fun matches, never a threat.

Rey and Painful don't belong in the same sentence when it comes to offense. His looked like choreographed sillyness with zero exception. His punches were the worst of anyone listed in the top 300. But he's Rey so Rey has to be high up on the list because reasons. Rey's placement may be the single biggest legitimacy-buster of this entire thing, the more I think about it.

Doesn't matter how many threads on here I lurk, I'll never in my life understand how or why Rey's offense was better than HBK's or Bret's.

I'm guessing Bryan is next at no. 5. Not getting that first ballot WON HOF will prevent him from the top 3 in my eyes. Tied for most overrated in this list with Regal. Good for him for getting so high though. Gotta love that death/unexpected retirement boost. Keep in mind he couldn't even handle a title reign in the safe era.

edit: wrong thread.

Regal being this high is a joke. Guy couldn't main event a flea market, ever.

Long time lurker here, enjoying the "Prevent Shawn Michaels From Being Top 25" list so far.

Most likely it was him doing the training, but Shawn Michaels' name was on the door, he occasionally came by, but mostly rudy did the actual instructions. With Daniel Bryan having stated that Michaels was there virtually every day, not to mention the vast amount of evidence that he was heavily invested in the project, I'm curious as to why your take seems to be the consensus among internet types.