Everything posted by dawho5
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[1996-01-22-WWF-Raw] Shawn Michaels and Jim Cornette
So answer me a question. Was it that fans really liked the idea of complete asshole babyfaces in 1996? Or was it that the people that WCW and WWF were pushing were complete assholes? Shawn is so heelish here it makes absolutely no sense how over he is. Corny turning things around on him towards the end kind of made it worth it, but why come out without Owen or somebody to back him up?
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[1996-01-22-WWF-Raw] Billionaire Ted Skit
I'm trying to figure out between Hogan on Nitro and these whether Hogan or Vince is the more juvenile , sad human being who can't accept even the smallest thing not going their way.
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[1996-01-22-WWF-Raw] Vader vs Savio Vega
Great debut for Vader. At first I was wondering if he should have gone over the top to the floor like he did, but what came after made it perfectly fine. The post-match stuff was good with the crazy stiff powerbomb to a ref and trying to murder Gorilla. In my mind I heard Gorilla on commentary criticizing Vader's technique while putting himself over and it made the beating he got seem deserved.
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[1996-01-22-WCW-Nitro] Sting & Lex Luger vs Harlem Heat
Stevie Ray, for all of his real life badassery, didn't ever figure out how to be exciting in the ring. And him taking most of the offense is not great. I will echo praise for the Booker axe kick and the Sting/Luger stuff up to that point. The Sting/Booker double crossbody was also pretty good. Can someone explain to me how Nick Patrick didn't see all of those coins rolling around the ring?
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[1996-01-22-WCW-Nitro] Ric Flair vs Randy Savage
I didn't love the confusion of the bell before Savage even dropped the elbow, but it was a fun Flair/Savage match. The hotshotting is kinda ridiculous at this point with Savage having wrestled Luger 4 times recently now this? Post-match I did love Savage making sure to kill every attempt by Hogan to usurp his moment.
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[1996-01-15-WWF-Raw] Razor Ramon and Goldust
The previous interview with Vince and Goldust was pretty...interesting as well. How much did Vince actually need to act when Dustin (who really did go way into character it seems) was standing next to him I wonder. Lawler laughing at Vince was a definite trip. Fun little brawl they should have kept in the building with all that snow.
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[1996-01-15-WWF-Raw] Billionaire Ted
Not funny, but we did get a Vince Russo cameo.
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Owen did one where he got the arm bar, turned it into a kind of hammerlock and used the leg to secure that one before going at the other arm like that. Perhaps a variation on the original?
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Really fun match that has a lot of comedy early on. I kind of get the idea of each man going for pinfalls in the final round, as they are both well aware that they don't have much time to put the match away. That arm trap abdominal stretch variation says to me Owen spent some time in Mexico before this as that seemed like a very lucha flavored submission.
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This is actually the most technical I've ever seen a Moondog. Certainly a fun match, but I wasn't a huge fan of the transition to Moondog control. What was Wright thinking going for a victory roll with the ropes right there? Also, for a guy like Wright these are the kinds of matches that would make him a little easier to get behind in a "big guy" promotion. He's a smallish technician, and if he only ever beats the guys his size who fight similarly he won't get near as much respect. If he can translate his technical skill into a way to beat a big bruiser despite getting beat up, he is at least a threat to everyone he may face.
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The Beginner's Guide To British Wrestling
I always enjoyed that aspect of British wrestling. Just the idea that the punch was a HUGE weapon makes so much sense and the heels absolutely should have to hide it when they do it. It goes back to that thing I heard Al Snow talk about when he was instructing young wrestlers. "What is one of the few things you do those people know anything about?" It just makes sense that if a big dude punches somebody at the bar and can knock him out, how are these guys taking so many? As far as Faulkner goes, I think it's kinda cool that he was as good at comedy as he was despite being a serious technician is what I'm trying to say. He could have easily been a comedy wrestler with his skill, but was able to be a triple threat at any point in a match. I also think the idea of the "super serious technician" gimmick kind of ruined the idea that wrestlers are people. Yes, there are some super-serious wrestlers who were technicians. Not everyone has to fit into that box though. I want to think that at some point people decided technical wrestling was boring and that somehow played into the way that whole thing worked out and killed the idea that you could have a guy who was a serious technician, but liked to have fun with it and hated the idea of the heel cheating excessively all at the same time. Would have made the dean Malenkos of the world a lot more fun as a wrestling character and allowed them more freedom.
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The Beginner's Guide To British Wrestling
Oh, I appreciate Faulkner both for the humor and the great technique. He's an incredible worker in that he can mix both without skipping a beat, plus go completely red-faced and believably go off and throw a punch at a guy. Being able to have all three of those is not something the majority of workers in the history of the business can claim.
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The Beginner's Guide To British Wrestling
I just watched 2 Jim Breaks vs . Vic Faulkner matches that pre-date the one I was aware of. The drive I have has no dates attached to any of the matches for the Faulker stuff, so I can't say when they happened. The first seemed to be the initial meeting of a feud, with Faulkner doing his funny guy stuff and pissing Breaks off immensely. Breaks gets a quick fall by tying Faulkner's arm up in the ropes and putting on the Special, then Faulkner quickly pulls a trick on Breaks to even things up. Faulkner is a little more heated, but still very much the prankster. Breaks eventually gets caught throwing a punch (many were thrown before) by the ref, who seemed pretty lenient throughout, and the ref promptly DQs Breaks. The second match opens in round 3 with Breaks really trying to go to town on the arm and Faulkner finding ways to slow his momentum. There was a great sequence in there with breaks actively working against a rope break while Faulkner is tangled up, all the while screaming at the referees to get Faulkner out of the ropes. Not long after Breaks gets his feet tangled in the cloth drop hanging just off the ring apron and does a great comedy spot trying to untangle his feet. Faulkner gets one of his trickster/funny falls, Breaks gets a sneak attack fall and we go to a draw. They two actually both punch each other after the match and Faulkner gets really angry during. The previous match I'd seen there was a story going in of Faulkner losign a match by DQ for punching Breaks. My hope is the next one I come across is that one, so I get to see the whole evolving story of Breaks getting pissed at Faulkner, Faulkner getting pissed at Breaks because of that and then the fallout.
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[1997-04-12-GAEA] Akira Hokuto vs Kaoru
I thought this was really good. I really liked the struggle throughout as even when somebody was taking offense, they were grabbing for a handful of hair or whatever they could get between the other's offense. Very fun stuff. I still struggle to accept the need for 5 straight backdrops, but that's a regular joshi thing.
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[1996-12-01-Inoki Festival] Great Sasuke & Masato Yakushiji & Naohiro Hoshikawa & Gran Hamada & Super Delphin vs Taka Michinoku & Dick Togo & Mens Teoh & Shiryu & Shoichi Funaki
Really great 10-man that hits all the right highspots without going too far. I will say that Shiryu is consistently missing cues and sloppy as Hell around this time period, and this is no exception. He does hit a nice corner lariat tho. Double dive by Yakushiji & Hoshikawa was legitimately one of the most ridiculous things you've ever seen in wrestling with the timing they had to have at that speed.
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[1996-12-01-Inoki Festival] Daisuke Ikeda & Takeshi Ono vs Alexander Otsuka & Satoshi Yoneyama
Ikeda and Ono as bully shit-kicking (literally kicking here) heels are amazing. I really dug that first bit with Otsuka proving he could neutralize everything Ono threw at him right away. Before Ikeda gets involved anyway. And that pre-match is amazing. If you know anything about the 3 famous Bat Bat guys, you know Yoneyama is in for the beating of a lifetime. He clearly is in over his head, but in no way backs down. The perfect Japanese underdog against a horrifically overpowered heel team. Not the brutality you would get 9 years later in FUTEN, but still all kinds of fun. If not "years off of your career" dangerous for the participants.
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[1996-04-27-WCW-Saturday Night] Steven Regal vs Fit Finlay
That lariat off the apron was definitely the highlight, but this was a wonderful slugfest. How is it Britain is better at both technical wrestling AND Brawling?
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[1997-08-10-NJPW] El Samurai vs Shinjiro Otani
I really liked this one for a couple of reasons. 1. They didn't do that "spend 7-10 minutes on the mat" opening that NJ juniors always seem to do to prove they can mat wrestle. It's great that they can, but it very rarely has anything at all to do with the finish. Or the story leading to the finish. 2. What they did instead was get right to Samurai stealing some of the very key Ohtani spots, tree of woe and face washing to be particular. Clearly there has been some buildup that has some spice to it as Samurai is a guy who gets that way in response, not as the instigator. 3. After Samurai rips off the face washes, Ohtani does not try to respond in kind. He tries to hit bigger stuff to advance the purpose of winning the match. He's not just trying to get his shit in. He is trying to play to the story being told in the match. 4. The finishing sequence is not overblown like the previous matches Samurai had with Takaiwa and Kanemoto. It builds the moves up in a much more logical order with a lot more struggle to hit big moves in sequence. Overall, really good match that has to be one of the better NJ juniors matches as far as showing some restraint and staying within the established story of the match.
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[1997-08-03 NJPW] El Samurai vs Tatsuhito Takaiwa
What I have is clipped to the finishing stretch. Samurai hits a dive he has to hit or he piles the top of his head into the guard rail. Takaiwa (probably not often favorably compared to Kanemoto) is much better about keeping this finishing stretch sane longer compared to Kanemoto's blatant "I'm getting my big shit in" attitude. Samurai counters some of the really well-known Takaiwa offense and hits most of his stuff. I'd argue against the one Samurai bomb as it wasn't used as a nearfall, but a build to a less satisfying nearfall. Also, it kind of detracts from the 2 minutes later Samurai bomb that is a nearfall. Samurai takes two ridiculous bumps here. The first is a powerbomb from the second turnbuckle where Samurai's back hits, then his head hits in a nasty way off the bounce. The second is a second turnbuckle DVD that looks nasty as Hell. If I am getting this right, you have to pretty much commit attempted murder to finish a NJPW juniors match properly. The second one leads directly to the finish, but is not the finish, which may suggest some sort of excess.
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[1997-06-05-NJPW] El Samurai vs Koji Kanemoto
Koji bullying Samurai and targeting the leg early was indeed awesome. I'm kind of with a lot of folks in that the ending killed a great, great thing. And it's not Samurai's fault really. Koji brings in that reverse rana from the top that really has no place. Where do you go from there that is bigger? Then he does the moonsault to tiger suplex, which should be the end. That's not bigger than what he's already done to Samurai AND he has had about 2/3 of the offense in the match. Something about almost killing your opponent for the first non-submission big nearfall of the match just rings superbly untrue for me. Was stoked Samurai had that moment with the fans, but I wish they had not done a few of the things along the way. BTW, there was another wrestling heavy website with this awesome guy who made compilations. This was on one with 3 other El Samurai matches. Part of how the comp was described was several NJPW juniors having a contest to see who could kill El Samurai.
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Los Pastores vs. Jay & Mark Youngblood (Spring 1985)
On rewatch, the scrambling by security once Butch goes into the crowd is the best part. You know that lead security guard in the dark jacket was just about having a heart attack when that happened. I thought the stalling did go on a bit long this time. I'm sure the live crowd was pumped for it and if you can get away with that for the live audience, why not save a little wear and tear on your body?
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Goulet was announced as from Quebec. That is not saying he never spent any time in France though.
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Dennis Goulet vs. Terry Rudge was a fun match. I totally get why you prefaced it the way you did. It was a basic shineless-heat-comeback kind of deal. Nothing overwrought that you wouldn't have seen on TV in Crockett with a few different holds used and maybe a better part of the match as a shine. Still good stuff though as Rudge really does some good heel work through most of it. That one arm hold he was using early is probably not used anymore because ofthe proliferation of high knees. A good high knee would pretty much neutralize that thing in about half a second. I think where Rudge really shines is playing King of the Mountain. That really got the crowd going too, set them up well for the comeback.