dawho5
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I dug Panther not wanting to let go of the belt in the pre-match. I thought the execution was off through a lot of this. It seemed like one guy was a step slow on a lot of it. The layout was really well-done with Astro getting a lot of roll-ups and counters to keep Panther on the defensive and build the drama. Then Panther suckers Astro into the moonsault and takes control, only to have Astro turn the tables on him later. I just wish I thought the execution looked better in spots. Also caida 2 seemed too short even by lucha standards. Question for the more seasoned lucha folks. Is Blue Panther known for his nucadora? He seemed to use it a lot. -
Taue and Williams really carried this I thought. Gordy and Jumbo for sure had their moments, but the lion's share of the work (and the big moments) went to the other two. The layout of the finishing stretch was incredible. I loved the symmetry of both teams working to a big double team after tossing the illegal partner out and then the big save in succession. Taue looks like a monster in this match. He was certainly benefitting from being next to Jumbo, but he more than holds his own.
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I will agree that the style is preferable to AJW. Suzuki's early strikes took me out of the match right away though. Seemed like they were doing this weird stiffness/working holds morphing into AJW style (with Fukuoka even doing a Toyota dropkick sequence) and then back again. Which also took me out of it. Parts of it were good. Not a fan of a lot of it.
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WCW is just so weird. For a promotion that is about the wrestling more than the sideshow antics and promos, the fans sometimes don't respond to the wrestling unless it's somebody who has already wowed them with the antics/promos. This was a great match with a structure that should have kept the crowd involved, but somehow it just didn't. Maybe hotshotting Gordy/Williams into the spotlight had something to do with that? I wonder if Watts wasn't trying a little too hard to put his stamp on WCW rightnow when he came in and would probably have done better working the stuff he wanted to do in gradually. As it is I'm surprised he didn't bring in JYD and start pushing him to the moon from day one. There was an idea in this thread involving Watts using Hayes as a mouthpiece for the MVC, which seemed like it might have worked. Would even have gotten past Watts' predeliction towards not having Hayes wrestle. So far for me the Watts era has been mostly bust and I kinda wish they had stuck with the Dangerous Alliance and worked Vader in as the newer big bad instead if this.
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One thing I've noticed when listening to Cornette talk on his podcast is that a part of what made him great as a manager (the insulting witticisms) can come off as really, really insensitive or even bigoted when not being said by a heel character in a wrestling promotion. Which makes me think that it is extremely likely the man has always had some attitudes and beliefs that I disagree with. Somehow the context they were being presented in made them less likely to offend due to the fact they were coming from a guy you were supposed to want to see get his ass kicked. That being said, his opinion of modern wrestling and mine tend to align. I think he goes a little far bemoaning the evils of it, but it's coming from a place I can agree with. In general, when he talks about wrestling and the presentation of it (not the people involved that he doesn't like) he comes across as a super intelligent guy who gets what it's all about.
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Liked this a lot. The crowd was nuts, especially for Sting. Sting's hip swivel after the posedown was great. I know he never truly got his chance due to booking and poor management of the company, but the guy got it and should have had a big run. The Steiners really weren't doing their usual act here, as mentioned above. If Rude doing a bearhug to Scotty is weird, what would you describe Bobby doing a bearhug to Scotty as? Batshit insane?
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Not much more to be said about this one. Really well-worked, solid, basic match. Which, to Sleaze's point earlier in the thread, should have been the heart of every WCW card...oh, ever. Funny how a guy like Jake could make a match like this that should seem run-of-the-mill seem great and yet not have his personal shit figured out. And on the opposite side of the coin how all the flash and movez of the modern day somehow don't do the same in the ring and the workers are much more likely to have their act together outside the ring. Seems wrong.
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I thought the Robert Fuller promo was great. The idea of a Fuller/Lawler alliance in the WWF and being anti-drug in a heel ways is super fun. The hanging was really well-done, but I didn't buy Bob's "I've never seen anything like this!" line. Did we not just see Orndorff do the same with a torn up towel a week or two ago? And yeah, Horner was never gonna be your main babyface.
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Groundwork was slow, but they were generally working towards something the whole time. Admittedly not the most exciting matwork you'll see. Exciting finish, pretty good match. Will agree with garetta on the lack of scoring being shown. Kinda need that as I don't mentally keep track of all of the KDs and rope breaks. I enjoted the whole "3 judges watched and agreed that Takada won" deal. If they hadn't agreed would Takada have not won the title??
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