dawho5
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Observer Hall of Fame, two time IWGP Jr Heavyweight champion, WCW Cruiserweight champion (before that title was devalued), J Crown winner, numerous title reigns all over Mexico and Japan. How on earth is Ultimo Dragon underrated and by whom? Hardly underrated by people on here, but I'll throw in Steve Grey and Jon Cortez. I should clarify. I've seen a lot of folks on this site and elsewhere who think his stuff has aged badly and that he was all flash and no substance. Part of which I can understand as guys like Liger, Mysterio, and Samurai were more consistent. But I think his peak matches are pretty dang high and are proof that he brought more to the table than just flashy moves. I guess that goes back to the problem of how we define "underrated" and by whom? I will actually put myself up as one of these. And I think it's due to that pendulum deal mentioned earlier. Younger me LOVED Ultimo Dragon, one of my favorite WCW guys. But the more I watched, the more it just disappointed me seeing him whenever it came up. I started seeing things that soured me on him and did almost a complete 180. I won't say he's a superb junior heavyweight, but he's not actively bad....usually.. -
That is a great compliment to give anyone. I know Kabuki is not a huge favorite, but the man knows how to throw an uppercut.
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I was watching this and thinking it was really good, intense matwork for the majority of the bout. Everything was earned and well-executed. And I find myself liking Nogami because he's good and able to hang with Liger on the mat as well as adding a few things of his own to the mix. But I think the reason Nogami didn't pop is that he doesn't bring a whole lot of emotion into anything. He's just out there doing stuff. And there's no problem with what he's doing, it's just lacking any kind of meaning beyond running through spots. He gets to look good and plucky though in surviving long enough to win. At least with Honaga, we get a guy who is absolutely desperate to beat Liger for the belt. He may not have the technical prowess or highspots of Nogami, but there is emotion for Liger to react to.
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I thought Vader bumped a little too much right at the opening bell. Finish was good for the dynamic of the rivalry and match, and keeps Vader strong going forward. I get this feeling I'm going to not want to see another sharpshooter/scorpion deathlock for a long time after this tournament.
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Didn't think much of the early match. They definitely turned it around for the finish, first making it look like Choshu was going to put Chono away after Chono had worked to wear him down. Then Chono gets that second wind and makes it count. I'm guessing that even in 1991, Chono hated being introduced anywhere other than last.
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Haku does look really good. I'd have liked to see him in either AJPW or NJPW. Everyone was laying in their shots, especially Hara with those lariats. Reminded me of the 1988 AJPW tags this is trying to reference, but not quite as good. Looking at the match listings August is pretty loaded too. I doubt this even makes upper half of the month even with Tenryu's post match throwing shit around.
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I made a mistake, needs to be January 29th for Brody.
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Finished it up yesterday. Great read and I liked that the end was upbeat in the face of all the tragedy.
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WWC would also like to request Brody for January 6th and 27th. As well as Abdullah January 6th.
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I liked what I could see and tell what was happening. Here's what bothers me about the idea of the falls count anywhere match. It was done with no intention of being taped. Explain why you would do that at a house show where half the people aren't even going to be able to see what is happening when they brawl through the crowd. It's stupid and should cost them paying fans in the future. Then they go and just leave the cage to do some more. That being said, this is way ahead of it's time and I wish more of the ECW arena brawls were this good.
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Harts on Tito's team is perfect. As was Jimmy's reaction, I wonder who he'll throw at them after this is all said and done. Fabs running away from Demo is a good teaser. I really like Gino as a Hogan opponent because he's way less cartoon-y than most of them. It has a different kind of gravitas then even somebody like Bundy can bring to it. Gino is the kind of opponent you wish Hogan would have had more often.
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I actually like how Rain works in his younger guys. Like I said with Steamboat feuding with Steiner. You think a guy like Steiner wouldn't be taking loads of advice from Steamboat, an amateur wrestling based guy who made good? To me that's the perfect pairing to let Steamer do his thing and Steiner learn from the master. It's stuff like that I can really appreciate about Rain's booking.
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Cornette and Lane are gold here. "Oh yeah and Steve Cox too." Brilliant stuff.
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Leatherface stuff has impressed me a lot. For some reason I can't figure out, it works. I liked the argument between Davis and Dundee and thought the match was really good while it lasted. I really like the chance to see both of them get a chance to show what they can do on the mat, which doesn't happen often in Memphis.
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Jake was so good in this. I can't imagine anyone else actually doing this and it not being wrestlecrap. One thing about the Hogan/Warrior/Sid thing. Sid is SO GODDAMN sweaty coming out to say 30 seconds worth of lines. Also, how is Warrior going from the chilled, I-just-learned-the-secrets-of-death guy to amped up psycho mode between these?
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JR trying to cover for all of the inaccuracies in this match is such a slap in the face by WCW management. It's a perfectly fine match and some of it was actually really good. Even so, if so much has changed why bother airing it? Just seems like a lazy decision being made to not include something a little more fitting for the current situation.
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I did like how they went from Scott not really being a threat early to his back suplex really changing the tone. Yamazaki didn't seem like he looked at Scott as much of a threat early and was willing to go to the ground without much attempt at striking, seemed like he had written Scott off. Then after he recovered from the couple of suplexes and "near falls" he turned it on enough for the win.
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Looks like they had set up a mock bar in the ring for the fight with the...Bar Room Brawlers. Not sure why you would want them right at home, but I digress. There is probably a reason bars don't use folding metal chairs. Fun little brawl with Morrell getting more and more abused by the Brawlers, one of them even kicks him to stop a count that is clearly not going to reach 10. So he whacks one with a chair to set up the spike piledriver. I guess the bartender gets involved after all. Memphis comes up with some wacky concepts that just shouldn't work, but somehow manage to. Like this.
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Some viewing stuff for Chicky Starr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZyNuXgCAWY My favorite Sports Shop episode put on video twice. But hey, kill him Stan Hansen!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va19iUjDsJk The match itself can be hard to appreciate. But the first minute with Chicky coming to the ring and being a preening asshole is glorious.
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First I'd have to see a roster. If you pull in Vader in 95 I think the quality of AJPW jumps up enormously.
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Loved Vader and Bam Bam as a team. I do always love when the heels will toss chairs in the ring and refuse to go back in there until the faces get rid of them. It's just such a great little psychological dig at the ref and the rules. You know that criticism that Vader and Hansen had about their team in AJPW? I think that could also hold true here.
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I actually like the direction they went here. They tried to cut ties with Luger's past, which I think we can all agree is a positive. The focus on the "new" Lex Luger is good and while I don't like the distraction of "why the fuck is Mr. Hughes even here?" it doesn't take enough away from it so as to make it bad.