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Okay, I fucked up... Jeff Sword and Doug Vines were shipped from SMW to MACW for Saggs and Knobbs... they have now been added to the draft. Apologies guys.

They should be on the MACW roster... that was the last trade and movement I saw of them. If this isn't correct let me know.

I have seemed to misplace the Nasty Boys... Brian Knobbs and Jerry Saggs. I know a year ago they were drafted to the Memphis roster but never used... then not sure where they went after that or where they are at now.

WWF drops out of the draft... time to start planning for next years now... Sid... Taker... or Eddie... hmmm. Regardless, Kevin let me know about Patera. I will keep up with the draft as it will be continuous until everyone drops.

The WWF has decided to drop out of the draft. Kevin is up

I think this is on Kevin right now... Patera being the outlier while the rest can be good to go. If he wants him available now, just throw me a list of names, again, doesn't have to be anything big and I will pick one and he can go to UWF and be active. If he doesn't want him to be active, he is going to sit on the WWF roster until he is. Everyone else should be fine to go with the rule change.

His first match back is in April of 87. I have no problem holding him until then or if Kevin wasn't to feel better throw me a list of guys you'd move for him... doesn't have to be major and he can have him for a low price and be available right now. Whatever he sees fit.

I understand that point of view but we have to try and encourage the organic nature of the game and rules as we move forward. We have to increase creativity and not limit it. With a majority of people agreeing to changes it encourages that growth.

1st pick in the 2nd round will be on the block for another 30 or so minutes if there's any interest.

So I guess Ken Patera gets early parole on January 1st thanks to overcrowding... that changes some things. 1st pick in the 2nd round is on the block right now given these changes... let me know if you're interested... Rain I sent you a PM.

I see Schultz working (quite sparingly) to 1989. I say he is yours to use until that time as you see fit. I agree with career enders like Magnum. Hiatus and prison and movies and such are thrown out and can be utilized by the owner of the talent. Death is death. Retirement should be utilized as in the "year" they retire... so for instance Schultz wrestled one match in 1989 according to cage match... imo he is useable until that time.

I think the major question out there is this... Death is death and we keep that... Other issues like prison, Dave Schultz beating up dudes, hiatus from working... do we want to throw those out? Some instances I can think of are John Studd in late 86 going away for a while, Piper leaving after Mania 3. I am sure there are others but I am willing to throw these things aside and let us have more of a free reign on individuals outside of if they die.

Kevin is back up

I guess after rereading what you posted the major reason is that the guys who initially wrote all the rules for this before we changed things kind of set that as one of the parameters.

I think it's Up For Debate and something that could be definitely changed. I would love to have an alternate reality where Gino Hernandez doesn't die in 3 months. That's kind of why I picked up at area just to hold on to him that when he got out of prison and I could utilize him. I think that if we have enough people that agree to maybe change the instances outside of death for inactive, I'd be cool with doing that.

He has a look for sure and some skills. I looked back at the NCAA wrestling tournaments from this time and he and his brother didn't compete very well... Dr. Death though did some serious work.

I really like the format with the discussion from Tony and the wrestlers throughout. This is easy to read and easy to follow. You will have a lot of moving pieces with your roster over the next couple of weeks but Starrcade will be something to behold.

Pick has been made and the ball is rolling. Slept in till 8 today fellas...sorry for the tardiness

The big booty daddy...in 12 years Scott Steiner comes to the WWF. Kevin is up

Draft is continuous then. I'm go make the first pick

Draft thread is good to go... One idea to think of... I have 4 rounds... but would anyone have interest to keep the draft going as much as someone would like? For example... if a person would to want this option they would more than likely pick last in the 1987 draft... but the reward would be to re-pick your roster for the most part from all of the options available. Now the kicker would be that you can't use them until January 1st... but come that date... all the individuals you drafted would be yours and then you would just need to make your cap of 50. This would be relinquishing other wrestlers on your roster but really shaking things up and allowing individuals to pick from what we have so we don't have the free agent hassles after. What do you guys think?

1986 Fresh Face Draft WWF - Low Blow Scott Steiner UWF - Kevin Jerry Lawler Ron Simmons Ricky Morton The Warlord Robert Gibson Jeff Jarrett Lutte - Edgar Adrian Adonis Paul Heyman Chris Candido Brian Knobbs Jerry Saggs AWA - Rain Leon Vader White Flyin Brian Pillman Doug Furnas Maxx Payne Scorpio Dave Taylor Mr. Saito Jeff Gaylord Beef Wellington World Class - Gene Brian Adams Jack Victory Doug Gilbert WWC - Dawho5 TNT (Savio Vega) Mike Davis Tommy Lane MACW - Spaldoni Tom Prichard Norvell Austin Skip Young Round 1 WWF - Low Blow - Scott Steiner USWA - Kevin - Jerry Lawler Lutte - Edgar - TRADED TO USWA - Ron Simmons AWA - Rain - Leon White World Class - Gene - TRADED TO USWA - TRADED TO AWA - Flying Brian Pillman WWC - Dawho5 - TNT (Savio Vega) MACW - Spaldoni - TRADED TO USWA - Ricky Morton Round 2 WWF - Low Blow - DROPS USWA - Kevin - The Warlord Lutte - Edgar - Adrian Adonis AWA - Rain - Doug Furnas World Class - Gene - TRADED TO AWA - Maxx Payne WWC - Dawho5 - TRADED TO AWA - Scorpio MACW - Spaldoni - TRADED TO USWA - Robert Gibson Round 3 USWA - Kevin - Jeff Jarrett Lutte - Edgar - Paul Heyman AWA - Rain - Dave Taylor World Class - Gene - Brian Adams WWC - Dawho5 - TRADED TO AWA - Masa Saito MACW - Spaldoni - Tom Prichard Round 4 Lutte - Edgar - Chris Candido AWA - Rain - Jeff Gaylord World Class - Gene - Jack Victory WWC - Dawho5 - Mike Davis MACW - Spaldoni - Norvell Austin Round 5 Lutte - Edgar - Jerry Saggs AWA - Rain - Biff Wellington World Class - Gene - Doug Gilbert WWC - Dawho5 - Tommy Lane MACW - Spaldoni - Skip Young Round 6 Lutte - Edgar - Brian Knobbs AWA - Rain World Class - Gene WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni Round 7 AWA - Rain World Class - Gene WWC - Dawho5 MACW - Spaldoni Chris Youngblood Sivi Afa Action Jackson Alex Rizzo Axl Rotten
 Brian Armstrong Bruce Prichard Charles Robinson Chris Evans
 Chuck Coates
 Cody Michaels
 Curtis Thompson
 Emily Dole John Laurinaitis Mark Star Ranger Ross Ray Odyssey Red Tyler
 Reggie Bennett
 Reibun Amada
 Rikki Nelson
 Rockin' Robin
 Ron Powers
 Scott Putski Selina Majors
 Steve Blackman Super Parka Todd Champion Wayne Bloom Oliver Humperdink Slick Bart Batten Brad Batten From Radical Wrestling Denny Brown George Weingroff Goldie Rogers Jack Armstrong Keith Larson King Cobra Lord Humongous Mike Starbuck Pat Kelly Rudy Diamond Steve Pardee Superfly Tui Selinga Super Samoan Sakalia Tarus Bulba (Juan Reynosa) Tony Parisi Tony St. Clair From PR Brad Rhenigans Bulldog Bob Brown Damien Kane Don Carson Don Running Bear Frank Starr Hercules Ayala Joe Lightfoot Joe Salvodi Mike George Mike Hammer Mr. Hito Mr. Pogo Omar Atlas Phil Apollo Rick Renslow Ron Ellis Salvatore Bellomo Steve Simpson Tarzan Goto Tony Stetson Valente Fernandez From Central States Art Crews Ben Bassarab Buck Zumhofe Buzz Tyler Gary Royal Kelly Kiniski Nick Kiniski Tiger Conway Jr. Marty Jones Magic Dragon Frankie Laine John Richmond Bob Della Sorra Gino Della Sorra Denis Goulet Tito Sansa Dominick DeNouchi Lanny Poffo Spike Huber Brett Wayne Sawyer Plowboy Frazier JR Foley.(Manager) Jimmy Valiant "Dream Machine" Troy Graham From Smokey Mountain Brian Adias Ricky Vaughan (Lance Von Erich) Ken Lucas Tim Horner Phil Hickerson Vinnie Valentino Javier Cruz Johnny Rich Davey Rich Don Kernodle Don Bass Dirty Rhodes Mongolian Stomper Hiro saito Ken Timbs Billy Travis Pat Rose Boomer Lynch Jimmy Del Ray The Flame Mike Jackson Larry Hamiton Josh Stroud Steven Dunn Tony Falk Ron Wright 1987 Fresh Face Draft Order WWF - Low Blow UWF - Kevin

I continue to enjoy the use of Sting here and how it mirrored what he was like at this stage in his career IRL. It is good to put a guy like him with others to help move things along. I am also happy to see John Studd utilized in a big way here... he is a talent and a name and deserves to be a top dog.

I know there's going to be a lot of movement... please keep track of your rosters and come January 1st, send me the most up to date lists after the draft.

Kevin, I think we've have all said we don't want you to quit. I have sent you a PM on the topic and said it on here. I would discourage any kind of cleaning house trades as it is counter productive to the overall movement of the project. I think that this draft has been a major issue from the get go with all those involved to be drafted and so on... the sooner it is finished the sooner we can get back to business. I don't even want to wait till Sunday to put this thing in the rearview mirror but will so we can all move forward...