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Ahem? Wwf ran them in 86.. checked my records. If it's an issue we can work out dates or other arenas but these are straight from their results.

The planning for this loop is all based on the Tag Festival leading to the first Saturday Night's Main Event on May the 18th. After that, the dust will settle, the smoke will clear, and then the biggest feuds of the summer will be showcased. There are 6 loops I follow. I may bump it out to 8 with some more major markets picked up as I head into 1986 and expansion. This would then geographically make sense... however the one thing I need to keep is an MSG show once every 4th week to keep that market hot... but those shows would be held on Mondays to keep the regular loops going without concern. Mondays - MSG every 4th week Tuesday - 8 sets of tv taping sites Wed-Friday- House shows Saturday/Sunday super show combos - I need 16 of these... Montreal Toronto Boston Nassau Coliseum Meadowlands Cleveland Pittsburgh Philly Chicago Indianapolis Houston Denver Miami Tampa Los Angeles Oakland Then I just use house show loops for each of those cities and pick a television taping site... easy as pie right?

Good return of SMW. There is a lot of potential within the group of guys you have here and then the subsequent freelancers and relationships you have with the promoters to run bigger shows. In regards to rosters... I think we all have a little bit of fat to trim and send your way... I will be in touch and perhaps give you something more to work with...

I really like the run sheet you've got going on here. Some really good lineups. The 24-Karat group has shown to be pretty domineering in their tenure with MACW. Plus to think of Flair and Funk teaming at this point is bonkers. Keep doing work and I am pumped for the Great American Bash coming up!

I think after the big split things are starting to shape up. The intrigue on the Von Erich is going to be something to really follow and then to see who really jumps in to take the top spot. With Lawler freelancing and Dusty on top, this could spell some trouble for those involved. Meanwhile the tag division is getting bigger and better. UWF/USWA is heading in the right direction this summer.

Mean Gene if you will.... I really like the mix with the UWF here and It think it helps legitimize your product even more. You have got some nice name talent which helps. I like the build of Idol as well... he has a big upside in 1985 and this kind of exposure could make him a huge name for some of us (like myself) who may not have the recognition for him he deserves.

I would have loved to see the Hennig v Rude match at this point. I enjoy the use of the varsity club and it is nice to see Rick Martel here in the AWA with his NWA commitments as well. It is a great way for everyone to share talent.

I know the tour is ending soon but I have been very happy with the Valentine/Brutus combo. This has really been a great addition to our little world with the JWA and the power they wield.

It is hard for me to say anything nice about Lutte given our personal history, but I will begrudgingly give you kudos for your continued success. I personally like the Machine gimmick here and with you as I can picture Vince just going nuts about the same gimmick being used. That could change his focus on that tag team in the future...

WWF on Tour 4/24 – 4/26 New Haven, CT – Coliseum Hartford, CT - Civic Center Wayne, NJ – William Paterson College MAIN EVENT EIGHT MAN ELIMINATION Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant, & The Machines defeated Bundy, Studd, & The FoF w/ Heenan ‘King’ Harley Race defeated Tony Atlas Nikita Koloff w/ Ivan defeated Hillbilly Jim Dino Bravo defeated Ivan Koloff The Fantastics defeated Los Conquistadors Piper’s Pit w/ Bruno Sammartino WWF on Tour 4/24 – 4/26 Manchester, NH - JFK Coliseum South Yarmouth, MA - Cape Cod Coliseum Canton, MA - Metropolis Skating Rink INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage © defeated Jake Roberts TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP FOUR-WAY Gino & Adams © defeated The Bulldogs, Killer Bees, & Hart Foundation ELIMINATION TAG The Guerreros defeated Black Bart, Ron Bass, & Jack Lanza Tito Sananta defeated Jay Youngblood

WWF NEWS -The WWF is expected to announce a new figurehead for the company as Bruno Sammartino has asked for his release. He felt as though he could still do something in the ring, but when David shit the bed at WrestleMania, all plans were squashed. Bruno is still trying to lobby for his son to get back with the company but it doesn't look like it will happen. - The WWF Tag Festival is going well and is now in the home stretch. The big stories coming up in the next two weeks will be the Machines vs Harts, Bulldogs, and Russians. These were the top four teams to be highlighted throughout the festival, with the Fantastics getting a big rub as well. The WWF has been very happy with the results thus far and the coming weeks will show how well it is received by the fans. -The WWF is looking to try and bring in some big monsters for Hulk Hogan to face over the summer months in spot shows. Hogan is currently in a program with Piper that will blow off in a couple of weeks in MSG and then it is expected for him to move to Harley Race. Nikita Koloff however has been getting some real steam and some would say that with the current issues with Russia and the US... now is the time to pull the trigger on this monster feud that could really move the WWF up a notch. ​- Look for the WWF to hold more competitive matches on their programming. They are looking to expand their markets to the "mid-east" and then into the "mid-west" in the coming months. By 1986, Vince McMahon and company hope to be running tours throughout Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Missouri, and then into Nebraska and Colorado. This would supplement week long tours in California and then Washington and Oregon. Texas looks to be a big area for the WWF with their current situation with Houston. If the WWF did try to expand, they would likely be met with some concerns about their draws. With a Von Erich or Dusty Rhodes, Texas seems to be a desert for the WWF with no hope. Some have said that not even Hulk Hogan could draw in Dallas due to the lack of television there currently. Andre is definitely a drawing card but all reports are showing that he may not even be with the WWF over this whole Lutte/Canada debacle.

WWF Live April 21, 1985 Houston, TX – Sam Houston Coliseum WWF CHAMPIONSHIP TEXAS-DEATHMATCH Hulk Hogan © defeated Roddy Piper SIX-MAN TAG ELIMINATION RULES Andre the Giant, Hillbilly Jim, & Tony Atlas defeated Harley Race, John Studd, & King Kong Bundy INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage © defeated Jake Robert TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP TEXAS TORNADO RULES Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams © defeated Chavo Guerrero & Tito Santana Dino Bravo defeated Ron Bass TAG FESTIVAL The Machines vs The Killer Bees -The Machines won via pinfall for 3 points The Russians vs The Faces of Fear w/ Bobby Heenan -The Russians won via count out after Nikita clotheslined Barb outside into the crowd for 2 points The Fantastics vs The Hart Foundation -The match went to a 20-minute draw for both teams getting 1 point The British Bulldogs vs The Guerreros The British Bulldogs get a pinfall victory for 3 points TAG FESTIVAL RESULTS The Machines - 12 points The Hart Foundation - 9 points The British Bulldogs – 9 points The Fantastics – 6 points The Russians – 5 points The Guerreros – 3 points The Faces of Fear – 0 points The Killer Bees – 0 points

WWF Superstars Vince McMahon & Jesse the Body Ventura Matches from Hershey, PA – Hershypark Arena Vince: Welcome everyone to the Superstars of Wrestling, I am Vince McMahon and joining me as always is Jesse the Body Ventura… Jesse: Now listen up here McMahon… I get top billing… and don’t you forget it! Vince: Whatever you say Jesse. What a night we have got on the docket here this evening… King Kong Bundy in action… Jesse: And he is going to be looking to finish things with the 5 count… just like he did to that chump Hulk Hogan. Vince: Plus we will see the Canadian Strong Man… Dino Bravo… Jesse: Well he is in America now McMahon and you are looking at the strongest man alive! Vince: We will also wee a special showcase, the Guerreros taking on the Faces of Fear from the Tag Festival. Jesse: This event has caused a lot of controversy and could even lead to some teams breaking up… a lot of bad blood! Vince: Speaking of that, our feature match up, Randy Savage in action and he will be joined with Miss Elizabeth… Jesse: What does she know McMahon… he is the champion! Vince: Be that as it may, right now tag team action as we head to the ring! Ron Bass & Black Bart w/ Jack Lanza & Jay Youngblood defeated Rick McGraw & Steve Simpson -We get to hear about the feud between the Guerreros as the Outlaws here. They talk about Jay Youngblood joining them and wonder how Mark will respond when he comes back from his injury… King Kong Bundy w/ Bobby Heenan defeated Pez Whatley -Bundy destroys Pistol Pez here and gets the 5-count for the victory. Heenan is going nuts outside the ring. Dino Bravo defeated Bob Bradley -Dino looks amazing here and is in incredible condition. The fans still aren’t warming up to him though… TAG FESTIVAL SHOWCASE Philadelphia – April 20, 1985 The Guerreros vs The Faces of Fear w/ Bobby Heenan -A really fun contest with the Guerreros showing some good teamwork. The Faces of Fear are just not clicking yet… and they don’t find their rhythm. Heenan tries to get involved but he ends up being the cause while the effect is Hector dropkicking Haku as he falls overinto a backslide by Mando for the 3 count! The Guerreros get 3 big points! EVENT CENTER TAG FESTIVAL The Machines vs The British Bulldogs -The Machines won via Pinfall for 3 points The Russians vs The Hart Foundation w/ Jimmy Hart -The Hart Foundation won via DQ when Nikita Koloff used the chain for 2 points The Fantastics vs The Killer Bees -The Fantastics won via Pinfall for 3 points The Guerreros vs The Faces of Fear w/ Bobby Heenan -The Guerreros won via pinfall for 3 points. TAG FESTIVAL RESULTS The Machines - 9 points The Hart Foundation - 8 points The British Bulldogs – 6 points The Fantastics – 5 points The Russians – 3 points The Guerreros – 3 points The Faces of Fear – 0 points The Killer Bees – 0 points MAIN EVENT Randy Savage w/ Elizabeth vs Jay Youngblood -The Macho Man continues his reign here as not only the IC champion… but one of the best wrestlers in the world. He handles Jay Youngblood who is going full on heel here. Savage hits the elbow drop and gets the 3-count. He continues to boast and work the crowd up the aisle.

I see... looking forward to it. You guys keep doing work.

WWF Live April 20,1985 Philadelphia, PA – Philadelphia Spectrum MAIN EVENT WWF CHAMPIONSHIP LUMBERJACK MATCH Hulk Hogan © defeated Roddy Piper –botched interference from Harley Race led to the fall SIX-MAN TAG Harley Race, John Studd, & King Kong Bundy defeated Andre the Giant, Hillbilly Jim, & Tony Atlas INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage © defeated Jake Robert TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams © defeated Chavo Guerrero & Tito Santana Dino Bravo defeated Ron Bass TAG FESTIVAL The Machines vs The British Bulldogs -The Machines won via Pinfall for 3 points The Russians vs The Hart Foundation w/ Jimmy Hart -The Hart Foundation won via DQ when Nikita Koloff used the chain for 2 points The Fantastics vs The Killer Bees -The Fantastics won via Pinfall for 3 points The Guerreros vs The Faces of Fear w/ Bobby Heenan -The Guerreros won via pinfall for 3 points. TAG FESTIVAL RESULTS The Machines - 9 points The Hart Foundation - 8 points The British Bulldogs – 6 points The Fantastics – 5 points The Russians – 3 points The Guerreros – 3 points The Faces of Fear – 0 points The Killer Bees – 0 points

WWF Wrestling Challenge Gorilla Monsoon & Bobby The Brain Heenan in studio Matches from Hershey, PA – Hershypark Arena Gorilla: Welcome ladies and gentlemen to Wrestling Challenge, I am Gorilla Monsoon along with… Bobby: Your host, Bobby the Brain Heenan. Gorilla: Right… fans we have got a great night of action for you here including your favorites, the Machines along with the King Harley Race… Bobby: Plus Tito Santana… Chavo Guerrero… Gorilla: And we will be seeing a showcase from last week in Miami… the Fantastics taking on the Russians… Bobby: I don’t really care for this whole tag festival… I don’t like it… Gorilla: Is that because your guys, the Faces of Fear have yet to win a match? Bobby: No… no… that’s not it at all… Gorilla: Or is it because the Machines have looked unstoppable?! Fans we have got action right now… let’s take it to the ring. The Machines defeated The Invaders Bobby Heenan: Listen up here boys… I know what is going on here… I know who is under those masks… and I am going to prove it and show it to the world! I am sick and tired of the Machines… it is Machines this… and Machines that… so much so that I am putting out a challenge to you two… on May the 18th… live on NBC… Saturday Night’s Main Event… Detroit, Michigan… haha… The ENTIRE Heenan Family is challenging you two… let’s see if you have any guts under those masks. ‘King’ Harley Race w/ Bobby Heenan defeated Omar Atlas Harley Race: I guess everyone is talking about WrestleMania… well I am still not over the issue at hand… Andre the Giant NEVER BEAT ME… you didn’t pin my shoulders down to the mat. You could never do that. Now, I am done with the Giant and I have got bigger plans on my mind… and those bigger plans are for YOU HULK HOGAN! As the King of the WWF… I am entitled to special royalties and one of those is a shot at the WWF Championship. Chavo Guerrero defeated Terry Daniels -A great showcase for Chavo who is looking to get a renewed push here in his return. We will see his brothers in action tomorrow on Superstars. Tonight Chavo handles Daniels and ends things with a big moonsault for the three count! The crowd is white hot for the Moonsault still! TAG FESTIVAL SHOWCASE From Miami 4/14 The Fantastics vs the Russians -A really fun match up as the Fantastics are coming off a loss last week while the Russians are looking strong. This one goes about 14-minutes with some fast-paced action. The festival is becoming a real showcase for Nikita Koloff, who is rising at a meteoric rate. The finish of the match sees Nikita pick up Tommy Rogers over his head and then toss him into the guardrail over the ropes to the floor! Bobby Fulton goes over to check on him as the referee is in awe of what happened by Uncle Ivan hits him with the chain. The Russians don’t seem to care about what happened here as the Fantastics are in a bad way… but they got 2 points! EVENT CENTER TAG FESTIVAL from 4/14 in Miami The Machines vs The Guerreros -The Machines won via pinfall for 3 points The Fantastics vs The Russians -The Fantastics won via DQ when Uncle Ivan used the chain on Bobby. Fantastics get 2 points The Faces of Fear vs The Hart Foundation -The Hart Foundation won via pinfall when the FOF were distracted by Heenan and Hart fighting outside the ring. The Harts got 3 points. The British Bulldogs vs The Killer Bees -The Bulldogs won via pinfall and got 3 points TAG FESTIVAL RESULTS The British Bulldogs – 6 points The Hart Foundation - 6 points The Machines - 6 points The Russians – 3 points The Fantastics – 2 points The Faces of Fear – 0 points The Guerreros – 0 points The Killer Bees – 0 points MAIN EVENT Tito Santana defeated Bart Sawyer Jimmy Hart: You know something Tito Santana… I am sick and tired of hearing about how you put Greg Valentine out of commission for a couple of weeks… but know this… he is training harder than ever right now… He is going to come back to a vengeance and he is going to beat the sense out of you burrito breath!

I thought Ron Simmons was Burt Reynolds favorite wrestler with the Florida State connection...

MAIN EVENT Continental Heavyweight Title UGANDAN JUNGLE FIGHT (Come as you are, anything goes) Mr. Olympia defeated Kamala w/Tojo Yammamoto when Tojo accidently threw salt in the eyes of Kamala allowing Olympia to roll him up for a pinfall What a great way to put Olympia on the major scale. I am seeing this break on one of the Apter mags with full length photos... great way to put him over.

WWF On Tour April 17th, 18th, and 19th Long Island, NY – Nassau Coliseum Troy, NY - RPI Fieldhouse Erie, PA - Civic Center MAIN EVENT WWF CHAMPIONSHIP Hulk Hogan © defeated Roddy Piper via DQ Andre the Giant & The Machines defeated Bundy & The Faces of Fear Dino Bravo defeated Big John Studd ‘King’ Harley Race defeated Tony Atlas Nikita Koloff w/ Ivan defeated Hillbilly Jim Tito Santana defeated The Invader WWF on Tour April 17th, 18th, and 19th Scranton, PA – CYC Johnstown, PA - Cambria County War Memorial Concord, NH - Douglas Everitt Center MAIN EVENT INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage © w/ Elizabeth defeated Jake Roberts TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams © defeated the British Bulldogs Chavo Guerrero defeated Jay Youngblood The Hart Foundation defeated The Guerreros The Killer Bees defeated Ron Bass & Black Bart

-The controversy over Toronto's Maple Leaf Gardens, the WWF, and Lutte International has risen to an explosive level. Some has suspected that Jack Tunney signed a backdoor deal with the WWF which will give him full promotional control over the WWF in Canada and also a possible on air role. The WWF has been at odds with Lutte for months since they split and joined the NWA and this is said to be a huge blow in favor of the WWF. -Barring some of the issues from the previous story, Andre the Giant has stated that he is going to run independently and book himself for the foreseeable future. He has a handshake agreement with Vince McMahon but feels as though that agreement was voided when McMahon tried to kick Lutte out of Toronto and Montreal along with not letting Andre work the Johnny Rouge tournament. Andre has already said that he is going to go on his own and if the WWF isn't the best place for him, then he will find somewhere else to work. ​-The British Bulldogs have been vocal about their displeasure over the finish of the WrestleMania match in which they lost the tag team championships...there is talk that they have lobbied this into being booked strongly in the Tag Festival and will come out looking unstoppable and being the undisputed number one contenders for the tag team championship. ​- The WWF has sent some feelers out about bringing in some new names... especially in the Intercontinental Championship division. -the Guardian Angel (Raymond Trayler) started with the company this week but is said to be very protected. He is going to be under a mask and asked to get into shape for his "unveiling" if you will down the line. The WWF has done this before with talent they see a future in. This is a way for him to pay his dues if you will and build up to being a main talent. ​-Mark your calendars for Saturday, May the 18th as the WWF will be on NBC for a special "Saturday Night's Main Event." This is going to be a 60-minute sprint with top stars being showcased. The WWF piloted a program back in February to great results and this is going to be the standard for the WWF and NBC if it goes well. With the feedback of WrestleMania being positive, the WWF is doing everything they can to get out there to the public. They signed a 5 show agreement with NBC to have Saturday Night Main Event shows on July 13th, August 31st, October 26th, and December 21st. - The WWF is also looking to hold a big beginning of the summer show called WrestleFest. This may end up being a touring vent with huge shows in the big markets and the biggest show being headlined from Los Angeles. They may try to hold it in a stadium, but in order to have a big enough event they would need to have a very big headline contest.

Tony Garea has been dropped to add the Guardian Angel from USWA... he will be used as a jobber until he gets the big call up and takes off the mask to reveal his true identity...

WWF LIVE 4/14 Miami, FL – Knight Center MAIN EVENT WWF CHAMPIONSHIP Hulk Hogan © defeated Roddy Piper via DQ INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Randy Savage © w/ Elizabeth defeated Jake Roberts TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams © defeated Dino Bravo & Tony Atlas LUMBERJACK MATCH Andre the Giant defeated Harley Race John Studd & King Kong Bundy w/ Bobby Heenan defeated Hillbilly Jim & Tito Santana Chavo Guerrero defeated Jay Youngblood TAG FESTIVAL The Machines vs The Guerreros -The Machines won via pinfall for 3 points The Fantastics vs The Russians -The Fantastics won via DQ when Uncle Ivan used the chain on Bobby. Fantastics get 2 points The Faces of Fear vs The Hart Foundation -The Hart Foundation won via pinfall when the FOF were distracted by Heenan and Hart fighting outside the ring. The Harts got 3 points. The British Bulldogs vs The Killer Bees -The Bulldogs won via pinfall and got 3 points TAG FESTIVAL RESULTS The British Bulldogs – 6 points The Hart Foundation - 6 points The Machines - 6 points The Russians – 3 points The Fantastics – 2 points The Faces of Fear – 0 points The Guerreros – 0 points The Killer Bees – 0 points

WWF Superstars Vince McMahon & Jesse the Body Ventura Matches from St. Louis, MO – Kiel Auditorium Vince: Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the Superstars of Wrestling. I am Vince McMahon alongside Jesse the Body Ventura and Jess… the WrestleMania aftermath has scorched all of us… Jesse: Calm down McMahon and put on some shades… it is nice out. Vince: I don’t quite know about that Jesse… I do know that the action is going to bright and fast paced here tonight, plus we will see one of the tag team festival matches from last night along with the Intercontinental Champion, Randy Savage being in action! Jesse: Hit is McMahon! Big John Studd w/ Bobby Heenan defeated Steve Simpson & Brady Boone Bobby: Haha… the family is coming back together. With Bundy, Haku, Tonga, The King, and now John Studd back in toe… there is no one who can stop us! The Fantastics defeated Jose River & Victor Rivera -A good contest here from the Fantastics who are really building up some steam in the WWF. Vince and Jesse really put over the tag match from WrestleMania and how the Fantastics could just be a sleeper in the Festival! FROM 4/13 Boston Gardens – Tag Festival The Guerreros vs The Russians -We get highlights of this contest with Jesse and Vince doing the voiceover. They put over how Mando was still hurting from that vicious attack by Bart and Bass along with Youngblood, which leads to them being a bad way here with the Russians. We see them put up a good fight but it is just not enough for Nikita who gives Mando the Russian Sickle and puts him straight down, no questions asked for the 3-count and 3 points for the Russians! EVENT CENTER TAG FESTIVAL RESULTS - From Boston 4/13 The British Bulldogs vs the Faces of Fear w/ Bobby Heenan -The British Bulldogs won via pinfall for 3 points The Guerreros vs The Russians -The Russians won via pinfall for 3 points Killer Bees vs The Hart Foundation w/ Jimmy Hart -The Hart Foundation won via pinfall for 3 points The Machines vs the Fantastics -The Machines won a very hard fought match at 19 minutes with pinfall for 3 points TAG FESTIVAL RESULTS The British Bulldogs – 3 points The Russians – 3 points The Hart Foundation - 3 points The Machines - 3 points The Faces of Fear – 0 points The Guerreros – 0 points The Killer Bees – 0 points The Fantastics – 0 points MAIN EVENT Randy Savage w/ Miss Elizabeth defeated Barry Horowitz -A premium main event here with Savage showing why he is one of the best in the business right here. He handles Horowitz without a problem and nails the big elbow. We do get some interesting things here though as Savage doesn’t hold the ropes for Liz and walks off showing off the belt. Jesse and Vince don’t play into it, but you can see it on screen.

Like the Brain said... it isn't technically if you win it is how you win. Every team will face each other... that outcome is important but the rest of the outcomes are even more important.