El McKell

He may not actually even be signed, although this tweet is a little vague https://twitter.com/thechrishero/status/808323313244237824

Sorry to be a dick fact checking when i basically agree with what you're saying but that Ziggler ladder match at TLC wasn't until 2012. At TLC 2010 Cena had a pretty crappy chairs match with Wade Barrett.

Volk Han & Seiji Sakaguchi

the entire thread has been a fucking trainwreck

So much this, reading reviews/discussion on matches before I see them affects the way I think about the match too much and I end up thinking about reviews while I'm watching which kills a lot of the enjoyment for me. But at the same time star ratings are a great help for knowing what is and isn't worth my time.

I loved this so much. Bryan's angry yelling promo with Michael Cole was phenomenal not to mention all the shades of Terry Funk for no real reason in the last video great stuff.

Of course he's serious. By comparing the two words and talking about them like they're on a similar level shows a real ignorance of how the n word affects/affected people, it's a pretty clear example of white privilege.

This exceeded my expectations. Dory heeling it up was unique to see and i thought he did a good job of it. Inoki brought a pace to it that his matches often lack. Weird to have a two out of three falls match go an hour without a single fall though. ***3/4

Pretty good show that got me even more hyped up to see a match i might never get to watch, cos I'm not spending €12.99 on the network. I dunno if this is the right thread to mention this but as a reminder to all of us of how small of a niche we are even among hardcore wrestling fans. The Last Battle of Atlanta did not feature in the 20 most watched stuff on the network this week. The only things from the hidden gems section that did was Rollins vs Kassius Ohno and Undertaker vs Unabomb. http://www.wwenetworknews.com/2016/09/09/9816-top-20-most-popular-shows-on-the-wwe-network-right-now/

Really liked the brutal intense feeling that this match has with the heel vs heel thing. crazy first fall, intense second fall that ended with a forearm exchange followed by what was basically a fucking powerbomb, real shame about the last fall though.

Just looked it up and my god is that June 1st 1987 card bad on paper: Prime Time Wrestling - 6/29/87: Jim Powers & Paul Roma defeated the Shadows at 13:15 when Roma scored the pin with a flying bodypress Prime Time Wrestling - 6/29/87: Hillbilly Jim pinned Iron Mike Sharpe at 8:10 after making Sharpe hit himself with his own loaded forearm; after the bout, Sharpe began arguing with the referee until he was sent out of the ring by an atomic drop from Jim Danny Davis defeated George Steele via disqualification Bam Bam Bigelow defeated Paul Roma (sub. for unknown) Prime Time Wrestling - 6/29/87: Brad Rheingans pinned Terry Gibbs at 8:49 with a rolling cradle Prime Time Wrestling - 7/20/87: Demolition defeated B. Brian Blair & SD Jones (sub. for Jim Brunzell) at 9:44 when Smash pinned Jones after Ax hit a clothesline as Jones had a sleeper applied Hercules pinned Billy Jack Haynes in a chain match at 8:45 by tying Haynes' legs with the chain and putting his own feet on the ropes for leverage

How and why can WWE remove this from YouTube? Surely the Chicago Film Archives own the copyright to all these matches.

Using the spoiler tags because this thread looks so long and unwieldy.

What's the other top five Cena match against someone who wasn't nominated? Maybe I'm forgetting something obvious.

Seeing as how everyone from my prediction in the other thread is still alive I'm not changing it, I'm doubling down on my possibly dumb prediction that Kawada will be number one: 1. Toshiaki Kawada 2. Ric Flair 3. Kenta Kobashi 4. Stan Hansen 5. Mitsuharu Misawa 6. Genichiro Tenryu 7. Jumbo Tsuruta 8. Terry Funk 9. Jerry Lawler 10.Rey Mysterio Jr

I was definitely thinking Steamboat

That Savage shirt is pretty cool. I have no idea where the best place to buy vintage wrestling shirts is, sorry. My favourite wrestling shirt I own, out of two, is the CM Punk/Chris Hero shirt pictured below.

Volk Han got two number one votes.

I don't like the suggestion that everyone who didn't vote for Buddy Rose didn't watch any of him. I initally watched a handful of his matches as I did as a starting point for most of the candidates but I only really went deeper if I really enjoyed the initial smattering which in Rose's case I didn't really. He did kinda get more of a chance from me because when I was looking at other people I deliberately watched matches with Buddy Rose if possible because people we so hype about him. ​The point is I feel like I gave Buddy Rose a fair chance and I thought he just wasn't very good.

Ok, makes sense. But not liking shoot-style makes me sad. At least I tried

I didn't vote for either guy but I entertained the idea of ranking Han if this were top 200, I'm sure I would've ranked Han and would not have ranked Tamura. The short answer for why I considered Volk Han is that even though I don't like shoot style at all I felt he had other people's best matches that I saw: Tamura, Maeda, Kopylov, Kohsaka and possibly others that I can't recall. This led me to believe that even though Han's matches weren't that good he must be doing something right because they're consistently much more enjoyable than almost all the other stuff in the same style.

No way in hell Kawada doesn't get any number one votes

Regal and Arn seem like likely choices. Someone who I think it has a chance of being that I think would be interesting is El Dandy. I could see him beating Arn or Regal and I think it's probable that nobody ranked him number 1.

Somehow Dylan went lower on John Cena than me and yet I felt like he was showering him with more praise than he deserves.

This seems really smart and insightful but I feel like because I wasn't alive in the 80s I can't be sure that it's true.