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That seems kind of low on the list of scummy things Fritz pulled. Why don't you out-Fritz me then? The first thing I think of when I think of scummy Fritz Von Erich is when he faked a heart attack in the ring a couple of years after David's death

Don't recall ever seeing threads for these three, and there's probably not many people looking to vote for them, so you may have to nominate them yourself.

No real resolution, just continue to watch piles of stuff until I have to hand in my GWE ballot and then probably not watch any wrestling for months

Not sure if this actually is the match in question, I'm in work and I just did a quick search http://www.pideo.net/video/youku/461ce181eed85ba6/

Well you could say I'm finished in that if someone said i had to submit my ballot right this second i could do it. But i guarantee that the ballot i'd submit today is not the one i'll have at the start of April. What's the issue with 90-100, who to exclude? 10 empty spaces with nobody great enough to be on the list?

Not a single one has a match as good as Trish/Mickie from WM22. Or as good as Trish/Jazz/Victoria from WrestleMania 19. Or probably even as good as Trish/Stephanie from 2001(?). None of these people are going to make my list but I'd like to disagree with the idea that none of the women listed have a match as good as any if those 3 Trish Stratus matches. Nattie Neidhart: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2dni6d_charlotte-vs-natalya_sport AJ Lee: youtube.com/watch?v=TG-biPOCyeo Brie Bella: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x243h98_brie-bella-vs-stephanie-mcmahon_sport I know Loss said he meant Nikki Bella but honestly I don't think there are any examples of a Nikki Bella match that is good enough.

This post made this terrible idea for a thread worth it.

It's not just the issue of not appearing small time, but also by not trying to go national you will gradually lose your big stars to WWF who can pay them more. The model that these guys are suggesting doesn't seem so different to me than what the AWA did, and although they lasted longer than almost every other territory; they still went under eventually.

He works over CIMA's leg in the early going of this match, but it's nowhere near the quality of that Ricochet match. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x18e8si_cima-vs-yamato-dragon-gate-1-20-10_sport ​

The problem with lists like this is that it's almost impossible to figure out what criteria was used. How can The Crusher and Samoa Joe be on the same list? If someone handed in a ballot with these guys as the top 35, there'd be a WTF reaction from plenty of people here.

I think they're all time greats. But what's interesting about this to me about this is that if this thread existed at r/squared circle and someone said Michaels and Angle were divisive everyone would wonder what you're talking about. I'm in that middle ground when it comes to Brody, he doesn't sell which is annoying but from what I've seen he's not terrible, but he's far away from being some kind of all time great.

The person I'd put at the top of that list would be Bull Nakano

I finally have a real top ten that I'm actually happy with, so just 90 more positions to decide on (or 89 cos I've got CM Punk slotted at 11) also this list may change as I keep watching stuff Shawn Michaels Kenta Kobashi Ric Flair Mitsuharu Misawa Toshiaki Kawada Hiroshi Tanahashi Bryan Danielson Akira Hokuto Bret Hart Bull Nakano

I've always felt that last man standing and iron man matches tend to produce higher quality matches than most other stuff, but yeah the apuestas matches are probably the best

Took me far longer that it should've to realise you weren't inexplicably saying this would work with Steve Austin and The Voodoo Kin Mafia.

"Almost, I would say, close to a try saving tackle" That seems like a massive underselling of this by that commentator, Jim Ross would've put it over much better

Not a Raven fan but if I was to recommend a couple matches i'd say Raven & Perry Saturn vs Chris Benoit & Dean Malenko from Spring Stampede '99, this CM Punk match (my personal favourite Raven match) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf_WeCDOVxY and I suppose the double dog collar match w/Stevie Richards vs The Pitbulls that some people really like.

I just watched a Tanahashi & Nagata vs Kobashi & Tamon Honda match from 2003 and first of all it was great, but more importantly and unexepectedly I thought Tanahashi gave the best performance of the 4. A year ago I wouldn't have thought Tanahashi was anything special when he was young, because I just never heard much about this part of his career. This past year I've seen a decent chunk of pre-2010 Tanahashi, which is something I never explored before, and it seems he's been a great wrestler for a pretty long time. Top 10.​

To me the only glaring omission from the nominee list is Naomichi Marufuji http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/25855-jushin-liger-takehiro-murahama-vs-kenta-naomichi-marufuji-noah-accomplish-our-third-navigation-071603/ http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/25986-naomichi-marufuji-vs-shuji-kondo-ajpw-110308/ http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/21810-kenta-vs-naomichi-marufuji-noah-autumn-navigation-102906/

The Gywn Davies match is awesome; but then I watched three matches in a row that all ended with Veidor taking a bunch of two counts then immediately after winning with a school boy.

What do you mean exactly by working within you and your opponent? Is this mutually exclusive to working to pop the crowd? Isn't basically the whole point of working to elicit a particular response from the crowd?

Verne Gagne: has a good chance of making the bottom quarter of my list Buddy Rogers: Definitely on the list he's clearly great, but it's kinda hard for me to place a guy with this little footage Lou Thesz: I think he's good, but I won't be ranking him Pat O'Connor: probably better than Thesz, probably not as good as Gange Gene Kiniski, Fritz Von Erich, Antonio Rocca: haven't seen anything from any of these guys Rikidozan: nope Destroyer​: A lot of fun, could make my list Also until I saw the post at the top of this thread I didn't even know we had access to any Jim Londos footage at all

The Manami Toyota gauntlet was a series of thirty 1 minute time limit matches, so it went a little under 30 minutes. I think the Yoshiko Tamura thing was the same deal but with 31 matches.

Is who gives off the cooles vibes a better question? I'd end up giving that to Kawada but the things that break the tie are dumb stuff like Kawad's missing teeth, Tenryu's silly looking perm in the 90s and how lame his enziguri looks.

Where is that 78 Funks v. Abdullah and Sheik match? I've the 77 and 79 matches, but can't find the 78 one for the life of me. Is it possible that Parv got the date wrong? youtube.com/watch?v=OYxTsZ1pdJQ is that the right match?