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Rush signed a US exclusive deal with ROH, which means Rush vs Park is off for WM weekend.

Rush and Park had a couple of singles matches back in October. Were either of them taped?

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I'd like to hear the arguement for Lyger over Kobashi in terms of historical importance.

I feel like there were a number of good fueds that happened this year that had a lot of heat but didn’t really have a blow off match and now look like they may never have a satisfying conclusion. BC vs Golden Lovers LA Park vs Rush Daniel Bryan vs Miz Chiampa vs Gargano All of those fit into that great while it lasted category. As for something that had angles, promos, matches, heat, and looks like it will have a satisfying conclusion I’d go with Jericho vs Naito

I’ll jump in

Globally, this had to have been the best year in the last 15 to 20 years for match quality.

Gargano, LA Park, Omega

Also Mustache Mountain vs Undisputed Era the first one

What was the tag where Nakajima blasted the shit Nomura? That should be a contender too.

I think this is the best year in terms of match quality in two decades. There were probably a dozen matches this year that would be a runaway MOTY in another year. Omega v Jericho Almas v Gargano the Rousey Tag at WM Gargano vs Ciampano Omega vs Okada LA Park vs Rush Omega vs Ishii at the G1 The G1 final Toxin vs FlyStar mask match Riddle vs Lee from Neon Lights

PCO vs Park was a letdown.

How are absolute trash like Lince Dorado and Lio Rush both on Raw... smh

I don’t think I’ve ever heard the word heinous used outside of WWE...

So an extra 5 bucks a month takes out all the commercials that are already on the network or if you don’t pay 5 bucks more you get more commercials?

To me the argument for CIMA getting in is similar to the argument for Ibushi and Hayabusa. Smaller guys who did good business anchoring smaller promotions and the promotions suffered Attendance wise when they left. I don’t think that means they should get in before Akiyama or Taue. Guys who main evented in promotions with network TV and that drew 10s of thousands of fans for big shows. Not to mention all of the big name luchadors, Goldberg who should get in on selling out the Georgia Dome alone, Jarrett, etc.

Watched a whole show for the first time this week, Ki vs Fenix was a banger. holy shit.

Yep. Akiyama has been a top 10 worker every year for the past 25 years. He sold out the Tokyo Dome three times in three years despite being the worst booked/ worst promoted champion ever in his home promotion.

how much money did Turner lose when AOL went belly up?

I feel like Janela is entertaining, speaks well, bumps like a madman, and has enough personality that there should be some sort of place for him in WWE. But he is small, out of shape, unathletic, and uncoordinated. If they used managers I think he'd be a great manager for them, other than that maybe an announcer or referee.

Jericho vs Suzuki brawling at the Dome would be great, although I would like to see Naito get his win back at some point, and what bigger place than the Dome.

Can somebody explain to me the argument for Fujiwara over Goldberg? I understand that we would all much rather watch a Fujiwara match than a Goldberg match. However one guy is a household name and the other isn't.

I don't think Casas is where he was 6 years ago. When I think of washed up I think of Solar, Fuerza Guerrera, and Octagon. Negro Casas isn't anywhere near there yet, but I do think he's in the sunset of his career. He doesn't move the way he used to, and he certainly seems to be on cruise control a lot these days.

No, I don't think turning on Rollins or Ambrose would get heat because nobody gives a shit about Rollins or Ambrose anymore because they've both been presented as just another guy for so long. I do think the comparison to Orton is fair. However I found Orton to be must watch as The Legend Killer and must watch while in Legacy. I don't think I've ever considered anything from Reigns as must watch.

I feel like he still could be the top babyface, however it would require a dramatic heel turn (Michaels throwing Jannety through the window level heel turn) followed by a long run as the top heel. After a year or two as the top heel, fans will start cheering him because its just cool to cheer the bad guy then they can turn him babyface again but with the fans behind him. Problem is though that none of the babyfaces other than Daniel Bryan are really that popular. So its hard to run a memorable angle where he turns heel and fucks over a babyface because none of the babyfaces are all that memorable.