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Elliot, why you don't consider Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada on Danielson's level?

This is almost word for word where I'm at with Bryan, though I'd probably go Danielson/Nigel from 6th Anniversary as his best match. What would be your answer to the question of the poll?

In reality my point is not if the 4 Pillars would have delivered great matches with other wrestlers (they did), but if Danielson would have delivered great matches on Kobashi vs Misawa and Misawa vs Kawada level, if he would have been in AJPW during 90s. I think yes. Obiouvsly Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada would have delivered great matches even if they were in ROH.

Ok, but unlike Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada he couldn't know perfectly his challengers. The Japaneses were in matches against each other 4/5 time a week so they could take care of the details more in depth, while for example Danielson never challenged KENTA before their first match in 2006. It was impossible for them to deliver a match of the caliber of Misawa vs Kobashi of 1997. However I don't think that the perception of Bryan as a performer is increased today. I am reading the WON and PWTorch, and everybody considered Danielson the best performer, not only Meltzer, also Mitchell, Keller, McNeill...

Thank you Loss.

Probably Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada have more great matches, but great matches depend on many factors, not only the pure talent (they had an immense talent) but also the challengers, the fact that they knew each other so well because they grew together, they wrestled so many times each other so it was simpler to deliver a great match in comparison to for example Danielson that never challenged KENTA before 2006.

Good afternoon guys, I am a new subscriber. Considering the fact that Danielson is again an active performer, I would like to ask you what do you think about his ring ability. He is probably the best of his generation, but how would you compare him with the best of other generations, considering exclusively in ring ability, not drawing power? Is he objectively on Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada/Liger/Bret Hart considering exclusively in ring talent? Maybe Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada have more great matches, but the reason was also that their best matches were against each other, so they knew each other, while Danielson challenged a lot of different wrestlers with different styles. (Misawa/Kawada/Kobashi matches against each other were probably better than best Danielson's matches, but as I wrote before Danielson had probably great matches with more different wrestlers, with different styles, but he never had a Kobashi/Misawa like Misawa had.) So, explaining again my question, is he a pure talent in the ring like Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada, considering the in ring ability (not the quantity of great matches, but talent in absolute value ) If he would have wrestled in AJPW during the 90s, would have he delivered 5 star matches ( like Kawada vs Misawa -1994, Hansen vs Kobashi -1993, Misawa vs Kawada - 1997 ) against the various Hansen, Misawa, Kobashi, Kawada. I'm sorry if I used some words more times, some ripetisions. The reason is that English is not my first language. Thank you very much.