Everything posted by strobogo
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
Because I'm in a bad place I decided I'd gif all the GWE footage. I've completed 1899-1939. Some moves that I was surprised to see were invented before the 1940s: Powerbomb https://photos.app.goo.gl/myAraeBrzfmYNEXf8 DDT, although a lot of them seem to be botched hatch suplexes to be fair https://photos.app.goo.gl/vERngqWF433cAtsi9 A flying head scissors attempt that was damn near a shoot Canadian Destroyer https://photos.app.goo.gl/vr7BUgsFSHUEmmnK8 An early Texas Cloverleaf https://photos.app.goo.gl/e4vaZLqk46WW4n6dA An early sharpshooter/scorpion death lock https://photos.app.goo.gl/A9xcdqA3fn6P21Jz8 Spiderman rope spots https://photos.app.goo.gl/iSPBRNfm3Y8tn4dZA Submission tap outs https://photos.app.goo.gl/92DPKrM8f2Fw6C7x6 Kamigoye https://photos.app.goo.gl/V1wALu65FPy2SM9D8 Oklahoma Stampede https://photos.app.goo.gl/jf3NeP9bH5JoSRgTA The FU/AA https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZZi6smfL3gY6qcXQA The vertical suplex https://photos.app.goo.gl/J8d9LJ2qEe5or5sx9 Neckbreaker https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZFfmpqogCLQDvWcUA Back/rib breaker https://photos.app.goo.gl/mLbDNZXZHdfk9D4d9 Chair spots https://photos.app.goo.gl/mNCNE3tfbXoFhL137 Bombs away/Earthquake Splash, even seen one done on the apron https://photos.app.goo.gl/wMUUhREKP6qQgu5P8 https://photos.app.goo.gl/uEQUweXuVdvFoYAi6 which also led to an accidental shining wizard https://photos.app.goo.gl/TUHCgv3oXxxhQdNv5 Also a frankly unbelievable number of dudes doing dives out of the ring, but always in the context of missing a shoulder tackle. But these mfs absolutely are doing dives and eating absolute shit over and over and over. A very large number of refs getting very physically involved, too.
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Is the empire crumbling before our eyes?
WWE having Thatcher and Hideki as trainers but then just having people do front rolls for months and months on end
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
Pedro vs Mulligan from 3/15/71 has one of the dumbest fucking finishes I've ever seen. Mulligan hits a huge back body drop and makes the pin. Pedro very, very, very blatantly taps him to break the pin at 2. Mulligan gets up celebrating despite the ref absolutely crystal clearly not counting to 3. Pedro immediately gets up completely no selling, dropkicks Mulligan from behind and hits a bombs away from the top to win. Like....what lmao
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Kevin Nash
Those Outsiders tags in 1996 and 1997 are real strong, imo
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Kevin Nash
I think Nash is underrated for sure. The last 2-3 years of WCW of pure and absolutely laziness really colors his entire career, but you can go back to even the Oz and Vinnie Vegas days and he was not just a big slug in the ring. There are certainly a lot of guys his size who are a lot, lot, lot worse. His matches with Bret are absolute top tier WWF main events in the 90s, the match with HBK is probably the best match of HBK's entire run as top babyface, all of his matches in WCW though 1997 are real strong to great. His short WWE return wasn't bad, either. His TNA run(s) has a lot of entertaining work. Top 100 all time, probably not. Top 100 big men, absolutely.
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AEW Dynamite - December 15, 2021 - Winter is Coming
Because in a good match, the first 15-20 minutes sets the base for last 15-20. It's not like a NJ main event epic where the first 15-20 minutes literally are just killing time and have no impact whatsoever on the rest of the match either in story or character stuff. In the history of pro wrestling, the vast, vast, vast majority of hour long draws have next to nothing going on story wise for 45+ minutes of the match. I don't really like the idea of matches having everything make 100% logical sense 100% of the time. That's never the case in real combat sports or even non combat sports. Super super super dialed in psychology everything has to make perfect sense makes it harder for me to suspend disbelief.
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AEW Dynamite - December 15, 2021 - Winter is Coming
I've seen a lot of 60 minute matches in my time, but not many that not only stayed hot the entire time, but got hotter and hotter all the way to the finish. And the crowd started off super hot to begin with. Very enjoyable professional wrasslin in the year of our lord 2021.
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AEW Dynamite - December 15, 2021 - Winter is Coming
Lol at Sting finally painting on a new hairline
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AEW Dynamite - December 15, 2021 - Winter is Coming
Bryan is a coward if he doesn't enter BOLA
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WWE TV 12/13 - 12/19 Atletico Madri just cannot get rid of Cristiano Ronaldo
Have to think they see a lot more value in KO, who has been used as the ultimate utility player on both brands since being called up, working with just about everyone on all levels of the card, versus NXT standouts who Vince probably hasn't worked directly with more than 2 or 3 times.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
These mfs no sell everything unless it's the end of a fall though. EDIT: the fuck just saw a spinning powerbomb from 1930 :pop
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
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Is the empire crumbling before our eyes?
Okay
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Is the empire crumbling before our eyes?
If there is such a thing at winning at life, The Rock absolutely won at life
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
I would find it nearly unthinkable that Vince has ever heard of Billy Corgan or the Smashing Pumpkins
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WWE TV 12/6 - 12/12 - RAW did not happen last night I do not know what you are talking about
Maybe, but how much of that perception is from her being pretty much the only character on the shows where they explicitly portray her as being the same in "real life"?
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WWE TV 12/6 - 12/12 - RAW did not happen last night I do not know what you are talking about
It's really impossible to separate Charlotte the character and person more than just about anyone in wrestling in recent years. And her booking has frequently intentionally been used to annoy fans that she gets preferential booking, so it all wraps back in on itself. It's pretty weird, really. Even if you ignore all the times she's lost her cool in the ring and semi-shot on co-workers on live tv.
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AEW Rampage - December 10, 2021
The heel color guy agreed with the heel wrestler saying obvious bullshit? Berried.
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AEW Rampage - December 10, 2021
I remember KURT ANGLE saying it was an illegal choke, so the win shouldn't count, and therefore he still went around saying he was undefeated like the delusional heel he was. I do not recall the announcers ever agreeing with that. Not really much different than wearing the hair piece after getting his head shaved. What killed Taz was the Radicalz coming in shortly after. Benoit in particular. Also he was very short and Vince treated all the ECW dudes with even more disdain than WCW guys.
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AEW Rampage - December 10, 2021
If I'm trolling, it's blatant trolling jokes. Hook looked like a guy with no experience other than drilling what will be his main spots. He has a presence, he has a look, he has athleticsm. He also looked like he'd never sold, those crossfaces looked terrible, his other strikes were pretty dodgy, his moving from spot to spot looked like a guy trying to remember what he was supposed to do, and the few times he had to sell looked weird. He looked like a rookie. A rookie with potential, to be sure, but absolutely looked like a rookie. I know he somehow became a meme for whatever reason over the past year, but come on. I'm not sure he looked as polished as Brock Anderson, who also is definitely a rookie and needs a year or two working mostly on Dark to get seasoning.
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AEW Rampage - December 10, 2021
He's about the same level as Jade Cargill.
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AEW Rampage - December 10, 2021
Hook absolutely looks like a guy having his first match.
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Is the empire crumbling before our eyes?
There are also a dozen dudes in AEW that do the thousand kick outs never ending matches so what will yet another of those do for them at this stage
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Is the empire crumbling before our eyes?
Gargano was so overexposed in the past 2-3 years and went through such a full arc and character changes two or three times over that I really have no interest in him going anywhere. AEW is currently full of so many guys he's been associated with for the past few years, with probably a couple more coming in soon as well. Gargano is way tiny to fit in the heavyweight scene for NJ and lol juniors. He's in a weird spot for sure. WWE really has a knack for making you not care at all about people who at one point seemed like the best in the world.
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AEW Dynamite - December 8, 2021
Long Island fucking sucks, for any of you that have never been.