Everything posted by PeteF3
- [1998-08-02-WWF-Sunday Night Heat] Val Venis and Mario Lopez
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[1998-08-02-WWF-Sunday Night Heat] Interview: DX
Yeah, clearly Shane has no idea what his character is supposed to be, other than to be as loud and faux-cool as possible. Shane, you shouldn't be "giving it up" for DX and crotch-chopping right after they told your father to suck it. Anyway, X-Pac downplays the possibility of dissension surrounding an IC title #1 contenders match against HHH on Raw, while HHH pretty much spouts the usual DX catchphrases. Still, the boilerplate DX interviews were definitely effective and gave the fans what they wanted to hear, as repetitive as they could get.
- [1998-08-02-WWF-Sunday Night Heat] Show opening / Interview: Vince McMahon
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[1998-08-02-NJPW-G1 Climax] Shinya Hashimoto vs Kazuo Yamazaki
Few guys can get more out of less than Hash and Yamazaki. This is another outstanding minimalist performance from Hash specifically, not doing a lot until the end but making every strike both delivered and received count, with the crowd just molten for each one. A MOTYC for sure.
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- G-1 Climax
- August 2
- 1998
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[1998-08-02-Jd'] Lioness Asuka vs Kyoko Inoue
This is a sort-of dream match between two big names and the result is absolutely awful. Inoue spends the whole match getting quadruple-teamed by Asuka and three goons, thus sparing us the sight of having to sit through an actual wrestling match, because we all know wrestling is out in 1998. Lots of feng shui furniture-arranging in lieu of action, including a top-rope power bomb that involves some of the most bush-league, business-exposing, amateur-hour execution I've ever seen in a joshi match. Inoue gets her ass kicked the entire match that we see and then pins Asuka in one move, and on top of that the finish is blown, too. Maybe the worst joshi segment of any Yearbook.
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- 1998
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[1998-08-01-MPPW-TV] Interview: Randy Hales
It's hard to argue Hales' point, really. Lawler brought this on himself by dumping Hales out of his wheelchair the previous week. This is one of Hales' strongest promos so far--he declares that the planned street fight between Baxter and Stacy "isn't quality TV--that's trash TV, that's filth TV!"
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[1998-08-01-MPPW-TV] Jerry Lawler Attacked
Corey offers stumbling, confused narration while trying to simultaneously call the elimination match as well as an attack on Lawler in the control room. Travis hits a good-looking piledriver right outside the control room door and Brian Christopher eliminates himself to try to save the King.
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[1998-08-01-MPPW-TV] Jerry Lawler and Billy Joe Travis
Welllll...the comparison was to other shows on Saturdays, and those are usually syndicated reruns to begin with--including the shows like X-Files and Murphy Brown that Lawler mentioned by name. Lawler announces a loaded episode of TV, including an 8-man elimination match, Bill Dundee vs. Koko Ware, himself vs. Billy Travis in a piledriver match, and a back alley street fight between Brandon Baxter and Stacy!
- [1998-04-19-WCW-Spring Stampede] Hulk Hogan & Kevin Nash vs Roddy Piper & The Giant (Baseball Bat)
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[1998-08-01-NJPW-G1 Climax] Genichiro Tenryu vs Shinya Hashimoto
This could well sneak onto the MOTY list--this was a war of attrition in the video-game, energy-bar-selling sense. It's strike-heavy, but they vary the pace and intensity of those strikes all throughout the match so it never really feels that repetitive, while also throwing in a few digressions into submissions or bomb-throwing as a change of pace. Hash wins and does so fairly convincingly, but the DDT finish still feels like a bit of a flash pin in the way it's sold, so Tenryu is protected somewhat.
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- G-1 Climax
- August 1
- 1998
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[1998-08-01-NJPW-G1 Climax] Shiro Koshinaka vs Masa Chono
Yeah, I'm with Chad and Childs, too. This was a good solid match and Koshinaka is one of my all-time least favorite wrestlers who has a generally good reputation, so I had no expectations going into this. I don't get where the crowd was quieted--after Koshinaka hits the two power bombs and Chono kicks out, they're pretty molten. This isn't an all-timer or anything but it was heated and dramatic and had me guessing down the stretch, plus had some clever spots that I liked, particularly Koshinaka shoving the referee into the ropes in order to crotch Chono on the turnbuckle. My only tangible complaint is how loosely Chono's Butterfly Lock was applied--like 1995-Backlund-crossface-chickenwing levels--and that can fly in the WWF but not NJPW.
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- G-1 Climax
- August 1
- 1998
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- [1998-07-31-OMEGA] Surge vs Willow the Whisp (Mask vs Title, 2/3 falls)
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[1998-07-31-NJPW-G1 Climax] Genichiro Tenryu vs Keiji Muto
The finish was WTF-worthy both for me and the crowd--at first I thought it was a time limit draw. Anyway, both these guys are starting to break down (18 years before the end of either man's career!) so they're content to milk the drama and big moments for all that they're worth, and they do so successfully. Muto targets Tenryu's knee with his dragon screws to set up the figure four and Tenryu throws punches, and lots of them. Both guys hit Super Ace Crushers but Muto does his to the *floor* in a holy-shit moment that nonetheless looked to be about as safe of a bump as you could ask for in that situation. For the most part, an example of smart work tending to trump hard work.
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- 1998
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Where the Big Boys Play #85: Starrcade 1992
Okay, I just went through all the TV bouts on the 1992 Yearbook. I don't THINK Loss & Will missed anything essential when compiling the set, which speaks volumes considering the number of good TV matches WCW had especially in the first half of the year. It's been ages since I watched Will's Dangerous Alliance comp which features a ton more, but the really good stuff made the Yearbook proper. That said...you said you were looking for around 12 matches. Here are 7 that I would consider absolute, must-have locks: - Dustin vs. Arn (1/4 WCWSN, finish on 1/5 Main Event) - Pillman vs. Rude (2/15 Pro) - Sting/Dustin/Windham/Steamboat vs. Rude/Arn/Eaton/Zbyszko (2/22 WCWSN) - Steamboat/Dustin/Nikita vs. Arn/Eaton/Zbyszko (5/23 WCWSN) - Windham vs. Austin (6/13 WCWSN) - Dustin/Windham vs. Doc/Gordy (10/3 WCWSN) - Dustin vs. Vader (11/21 WCWSN) And others to consider: - Sting/Steamboat/Bagwell vs. Rude/Austin/Zbyszko (1/18 Pro). A lesser version of the DA 6-mans but the consensus was universally positive in the thread. - Steamboat vs. Arn (3/28 Pro). A hot post-match angle adds to a pretty good TV match. This might be the highest-ranking "non-must" IMO. - Steamboat/Dustin/Windham vs. Rude/Austin/Arn (4/4 Pro). Yet another good 6-man, they do all tend to run together, though. - Big Josh vs. Arn Anderson (5/2 WCWSN). A controversial selection that I suspect Parv might veto out of hand. This was a divisive bout that didn't seem to live up to its prior rep when watched in a Yearbook setting. There's lots of gritty, intense matwork but it's also 45 minutes, with color analysis by Jason Hervey. Maybe one of those "you have to see it once" matches. - Austin vs. Windham (5/9 WCWSN). Loss called this Austin's best match to this point, though that was before he really dove into the Adams stuff from 1990. Also the debut of short-haired Austin. - Dustin vs. Rude (5/30 Worldwide). A good compare-and-contrast opportunity with Pillman/Rude. - Arn vs. Windham (6/6 WCWSN). Included for posterity. The infamous match that Parv reviewed instead of the '91 match. - Dustin vs. Cactus Jack, falls count anywhere (9/6 Main Event). One of the first in a series for Cactus. Short but intense and really puts Jack over in this environment strongly. - Dustin vs. Jake Roberts (9/26 WCWSN). Maybe not big enough to truly be worthy of the list but it was well-liked and stands out as different in a sea of various Dangerous Alliance matches. One of the better late-career Jake performances--this is one to provide hard support to the idea of Roberts as a "ring general" instead of just repeating it as a cliche. - Sting/Steiners vs. Rude/Arn/Eaton (10/3 Worldwide). No Paul E. but a last-gasp 6-man effort in this feud. Loss called it the best TV match of the year's second half--I'm not as sure but this is made by a HOT crowd.
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[1998-07-27-WWF-Raw] Steve Austin & The Undertaker vs New Age Outlaws
We don't get it in full but I have to wonder just how believable it was for UT to work FIP against the Outlaws. Austin almost singlehandedly puts them away once he gets the hot tag. He offers UT a Steveweiser afterward and Undertaker accepts, and all seems to be well. Austin gets nailed from behind just as I'm wondering why there wasn't a Kane and Mankind run-in.
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[1998-07-27-WWF-Raw] Sable and Vince McMahon
Pretty good segment, with even Sable being tolerable. Jackie and Mero are declared the official bikini contest winners and both sell it like they've hit the lottery, then Vince takes up Sable on her wish to have this told to her face. McMahon is incredible here, taking time to browbeat photographers, Lawler, and that fan who threw the drink at him all while dressing down Sable and trying to put her in her place. As far as Russo-esque segments that don't build up to any kind of real match go, this was a winner.
- [1998-07-27-WWF-Raw] Val Venis in the Shower
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[1998-07-27-WWF-Raw] HHH vs The Rock vs X-Pac
Pretty smartly laid out match, that gets pretty good when Rock starts getting offense in. They did a good job of giving Rock an offensive run without undermining DX. And X-Pac was always a good opponent for him because he can make his rather loose offense look pretty killer, especially the Rock Bottom where X-Pac gets great height and looks dead afterward. A rift forms between DX and Rock takes advantage and bails.
- [1998-07-27-WWF-Raw] Steve Williams vs Bart Gunn (Brawl For All)
- [1998-07-27-WWF-Raw] Droz's World
- [1998-07-27-WWF-Raw] Vince McMahon, The Undertaker and Steve Austin
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[1998-07-27-WCW-Nitro] Hulk Hogan vs DDP
DDP represents no organization, he stands alone, so sayeth Michael Buffer. Does WCW have ANYBODY left? Page bumps well and works hard but this is nowhere near as good as their October '97 match because Hogan has fallen off since then. I don't go into a Hogan match expecting to see a Kawada clone in there, but he's *so* stiff, awkward, and loose at this point that it's actively distracting. Cheap finish and another tepid Wolfpack vs. Hollywood brawl. Goldberg then clears out NWO Hollywood, only to get met with a chokeslam by the Giant. There's no question that's a pretty decent main event or semi-main event match, so I didn't have a problem with Giant getting some heat on him. It may have worked better if Nitro had gone off the air with Goldberg still hanging in Giant's grip.
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[1998-07-27-WCW-Nitro] Interview: Goldberg
I wish they'd put over that the security was there to protect everybody *else* from Goldberg. I agree with everything Loss said--about the entrance, about the decision to have him speak, and everything else. The first time Goldberg spoke should have been a shocking, spontaneous moment, triggered by an act so monumental that it *forced* him to break his silence. Hell, we can complain a ton about how they handled the Hogan-Sting title situation at the start of the year, but Sting's first real words in a year were good ones and well-timed. Same with Sabu calling out Taz or Kane speaking through his voice box (and then later without it). This...wasn't any of those. Goldberg breaks his silence to instead...say nothing particular of note. Oh, Goldberg vs. Brian Adams is tonight--yeah, that should put a dent in Austin-Mania. Goldberg effecting a Christian Bale/Batman-style raspy voice isn't really helping matters, either.
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[1998-07-27-WCW-Nitro] Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko
Going to disagree here--they didn't engage in a down-and-dirty brawl, but the moves they did despite being athletic highspots weren't designed to be pretty--they were designed to hurt the opponent. Just a little bit of extra velocity and oomph to add that personal touch. The big DDT off the turnbuckle was a great-looking move but it was also a move designed for Dean to break Jericho's neck. The near-fall afterward with Jericho grasping the rope at 2.9 was fantastic, one of the very best of the year. And a finish right out of Memphis, which I loved as a capper to all this '90s cruiserweight flippy-flop stuff. I actually like that Jericho wrestles clean and does highspots for most of this--*then* when that fails, he turns to the knucks. Just a simple change in psychology from Memphis-style cheating that I've heard Tully Blanchard talk about--he tried to open his matches by wrestling clean and only turned to cheating as a last resort. In the end, they cycle through an epic cruiserweight bout in the span of about 6 minutes but it only feels slightly rushed--this was one of the better TV matches of the year.
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[1998-07-26-WWF-Fully Loaded] Steve Austin & The Undertaker vs Mankind & Kane
Definitely a throwaway in the annals of Attitude Era PPVs. The dueling-tag-champions gimmick isn't completely played out yet, but it's rapidly approaching that point. The action we see isn't really that good, with some weirdly inconsistent selling by Austin, but Undertaker does a really good job of working on the apron despite (or precisely because of) not doing anything until deciding to tag in.