Everything posted by PeteF3
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[1997-11-10-WWF-Raw] DX and Ken Shamrock
Yeah, "swear to God" all you want, Shawn. Kudos to Julie for not seeing through DX's bullshit. Kudos also to Rick Rude for working the long con even in these emotional times, waiting for the right time to jump ship. Shawn decides to "unload" because someone else drew first blood...as he pauses for a reaction that doesn't come because no one knows what the fuck he's talking about. "Flat" describes this perfectly--even someone like me who's predisposed to hate Shawn, this is an incredibly weak, stumbling promo by HBK's standards. He doesn't have any telltale signs of being on something but I wouldn't be surprised. Not nearly as heated as I remember, either. Ken Shamrock comes out to apparently save the segment, and yeah, this has Bad Idea written all over it. Shamrock's promo is far from great but it doesn't take any skill to just stand there and no-sell everything--something Rude is just as guilty of.
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[1997-11-09-WWF-Survivor Series] Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels / Wrestling With Shadows
This is a crazy scene even before That Finish, with a long brawl into the crowd and to the entranceway and back before the bell even rings, and this crowd is about as rowdy as the audience in Halifax--like seemingly a few seconds away from mass-hopping the guardrails. Shawn going into the crowd like he did was certainly gutsy, if nothing else. There just seems to be a little bit extra viciousness to everything both guys do, and Shawn actually throws some great-looking kicks and stomps here--I agree this is one of his better offensive performances even though he did nothing spectacular. He just came off as a tough guy in a fight, which is how he should have been portrayed more often. Then That Happens, and just like on Memorial Day 1996, nothing will ever be the same again. We then get the match from the Wrestling with Shadows perspective--Shawn is such a transparently lying scumbag in the locker room, and Helmsley can't even look Julie in the eye. Sadly, Julie's prophecy of what goes around comes around never really came to fruition, but now I'm almost kinda rooting for Kevin Dunn. Oh well, most wrestling promoters probably pulled shit as bad as this or worse--it just wasn't taped and broadcast internationally. Bret is self-satisfied for his knockout punch to Vince, and why shouldn't he be?
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[1997-11-09-WWF-Survivor Series] Steve Austin vs Owen Hart
Owen tries to declare himself the loser by DQ and even rings the bell to emphasize his point, but the referee has none of it. Austin doesn't look completely terrible from what we see here, but this ends very suddenly without a lot of build. This seems like a fairly split crowd, for this match--Austin draws a pretty sizable pop for the win. Certainly isn't Calgary.
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[1997-11-09] Wrestling With Shadows
Julie talking with a HEBNER! Oh, my. I'm guessing that's Dave and not Earl, but it's still jarring. Bret's kid puts on a happy face with the boys but goes to run and hide and is clearly getting torn up on the inside. Vince seemingly agrees to Bret's proposal--a schmozz finish followed by Bret forfeiting the title the next night on Raw. Agree or disagree with Vince's tactics, and I thought he was out of line...but a forfeiture followed by Bret leaving would have been a disaster. There had to be a middle ground somewhere where Bret could drop the title to someone at some point, in the ring.
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[1997-11-09-Michinoku Pro] Great Sasuke & Super Delphin vs Mens Teoh & Shoichi Funaki
Sasuke running through all of his offensive shit with a bum knee is troubling, but at this point it's sort of like watching a babyface Hogan match and complaining about his Hulking Up--it's just sort of with the territory, so all you can do is accept it or not. Plus Kaientai are so relentless in their attack on the knee that the match sustains its psychological thread in spite of it, and Sasuke is such an effective babyface-in-peril in every other fashion. This is so closely tied with the prior tag that it may as well be the second fall in a 2/3 falls match. I also loved how they recreated the previous match's finish, with Delfin trapped in the Teioh Clutch while Funaki gets Sasuke in an anklelock that tapped him last time, but this time Sasuke gets to the ropes. In addition to the requisite high spots they throw in some '80s babyface comeback spots like the heel apron collision and small package counter to the figure four, to add some new wrinkles to the MPro tag formula. I don't know if I quite liked this as much as the previous week but this was a hell of a series in any event.
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[1997-11-08-ECW-TV] Shane Douglas, Chris Candido & Bam Bam Bigelow promos
Overall this is pretty cool and with good deliveries. But Douglas as usual goes through like 5 "false finishes" like an overindulgent ROH match and the stuff about Bigelow "not cooperating this time" like he did with LT, Kimo (!), and Hashimikov is kind of eye-rolling.
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[1997-11-08-ECW-TV] Interview: Rick Rude
The camera zooms in obnoxiously onto Lance Wright's face--how many evil announcers do we need in one little promotion, exactly? Rude's partnership with Douglas was all a set-up, it seems, and he's back to fucking the Franchise like he said he'd do at the start of '97. Shel Silverstein had a children's poem called "Ations" that goes a lot like Rude's promo here--that might be the most pointlessly obscure reference I've ever made watching these Yearbooks.
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[1997-11-05-BattlARTS] Daisuke Ikeda vs Alexander Otsuka
Definitely a keeper--Otsuka does some terrific selling and it's amazing how he's able to make a somersault plancha, among other things already mentioned, look believable in a shootstyle environment. The key transition toward the end where Ikeda attempts one lariat too many is executed perfectly as well.
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[1997-11-03-WCW-Nitro] Press Conference: Hulk Hogan vs Sting
The Wars had gotten so intense that they were extending into Tuesdays--this was initially part of Assault on Devil's Island on TNT and USA countered with a Survivor Series historical special.
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[1997-11-03-WCW-Nitro] Lucha Libre feature
These segments *are* a little late, this one in particular, but I suppose it's better than nothing.
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[1997-11-03-WCW-Nitro] Scott Hall vs Chris Jericho
This probably did more for Jericho than when Hector Garza beat Hall a few months before, since that was booked as a total stone-cold fluke with a similar aftermath where here Jericho at least looks resourceful. Zbyszko eventually leaves the broadcast position to run Hall off and cuts a good scorched-earth promo on him. Scott Hall is afraid of a 2-handicap broadcaster!
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[1997-11-03-WCW-Nitro] Raven vignette
Raven says that in sixth grade he sat next to "Teresa Hayes." Heh. (That's Beulah's real name). These segments aren't *bad* but I agree on all the other criticisms with regard to timing and (lack of) direction. Plus none of the announcers ever seemed to have an idea or get proper guidance on how to get this character over.
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[1997-11-03-WWF-Raw] Shawn Michaels vs Ken Shamrock
This isn't bad but it's a step or six behind the Shamrock/Bret match the previous week, which I think is telling on several levels. Shamrock has been and would continue to be a useful member of the roster for the rest of his stint, but after being the hottest free agent in wrestling worldwide in February, from a presentation and style standpoint the WWF has turned him into just another wrestler. I agree with the Between the Sheets discussion from a week or so ago--Shamrock may have been penny-wise and pound-foolish by not doing the Dome main events with Hashimoto, which would have been big money and better for his personal "brand." Another end of an era here: I believe this is the last show that Vince McMahon did as a regular announcer.
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[1997-11-03-WWF-Raw] DX and Sgt. Slaughter
Vince says that Bret refused to come to Pennsylvania as a result of Shawn's remarks the previous week, which is completely weird and seems like an intentional way of marginalizing Bret further. Shawn kisses HHH in response to the "Shawn is gay" chant and then follows up with a kiss for Chyna, which actually gets a laugh out of me. Somehow I'm surprised that Triple H actually knows who Pontius Pilate is. Shawn challenges Shamrock to a match next week, but Slaughter makes the match for tonight. I can tolerate DX for the most part if they're not dealing with the Harts, but I don't know how much more I can take of them eating everyone else alive.
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[1997-11-03-WWF-Raw] Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels feud recap
Terrific documentary-style recap of the past 18 months. All of a sudden, with no public hints prior (and even the Observer hasn't broken the story at this point), this Raw was all about hyping Bret vs. Shawn as being the last encounter between the two.
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[1997-11-03-WWF-Raw] Interview: Goldust
This was a pretty big out-of-nowhere shocker, since even in-the-know fans figured it would be Marlena who was turning. Dustin promises to reveal his "true self" which was...different. But this segment works.
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[1997-11-02-Michinoku Pro] Great Sasuke & Super Delphin vs Mens Teoh & Shoichi Funaki
I actually thought Sasuke was pretty selective in his knee-selling, so that's the only thing holding this back from MOTY status. The work by Kaientai was great and Delfin as the perennial saver on the outside was good, too. Funaki was the Man of the Match working on Sasuke's knee (a legit knee injury, which heightened the story and the tension of the match) but I did love Teioh stealing Delfin's swinging DDT/Delfin Clutch finishing spot--Delfin also waited until the very last second to kick out to make for a great near-fall.
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[1997-11-01-ECW-TV] Mikey Whipwreck & Spike Dudley vs Doug Furnas & Phil LaFon
Fun little match but LaFon & Furnas have clearly fallen off a lot--a combination of age, wear and tear, and never really recovering from their car wreck. The goal of this run was for Heyman to get them over so they could come back to the WWF revitalized, a la Al Snow next year. But it never really happened. Here, the action is pretty clearly being carried by Mikey & Spike, so we get a good opening match anyway. It's good to see ECW carrying the torch for traditional (and not-so-traditional) tag wrestling as it's dying in the Big Two.
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[1997-11-01-ECW-TV] New Jack & Kronus vs FBI
Joey is so confident about the FBI getting massacred that you just KNOW they're going to luck their way into the Tag Titles, and that's exactly what happens. Smothers takes some ridiculously over-the-top bumps here, like selling a weapon shot by launching himself backward on top of the turnbuckles. After getting in no offense and with Tommy Rich getting destroyed, working the most competitive sequence of the match, the Dudleys run in and drop Kronus with the 3D, and put Guido on top for the win and the belts. This appears to be the start of the Jeff Jones turn, as he favors the heels here and again in the next impromptu match, as Axl Rotten & Balls Mahoney run in to kickstart their bout with the Dudleys. Mass chaos reigns, as the FBI and Gangstanators make their way back into the ring and out again. Jones again tries to help the Dudleys, but Jim Molineaux puts a stop to it and the two refs actually work a sequence together of their own. Rotten drops D-Von with an inverted DDT onto the chair and Molineaux counts the win. Sort of typical ECW but no one can accuse this of having any dull patches, and the crowd heat was tremendous.
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[1997-10-31-NJPW] Jushin Liger & El Samurai & Kendo Ka Shin vs Shinjiro Otani & Koji Kanemoto & Tatsuhito Takaiwa
Well, Ka Shin did annoy me: Liger has just destroyed Kanemoto with a shotei in the corner, a Liger bomb, and a super fisherman buster. So he tags in Ka Shin, who...stands over him for a few seconds and then throws some stomps. It's the worst transition I've seen in a NJ juniors match since the days of Tiger Mask and Dynamite Kid. Aside from that, this was pretty awesome and that's with Otani and Samurai sort of being bystanders, though Otani unleashes some great dropkicks down the stretch. Ka Shin pays for his grave mistake by being triple teamed into oblivion at the end, so at least we got some poetic justice out of this. A very good closing stretch that made you want to see more from 5 of these guys.
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[1997-10-30-JWP-Plum Mariko Memorial Show] Mayumi Ozaki vs Dynamite Kansai & Cutie Suzuki (Handicap)
Kayfabe lives, even in a tribute match, so Ozaki does the job because that's the only realistic result. Still, Kansai standing guard at the corner to "prevent" Mariko from making the save seemed like an even better tribute in some way.
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[1997-10-29-Promo Azteca] The Riot
Pretty sure that was Bob Barnett, yes. It's somebody named Bob who tapes live lucha, at least. This is the aftermath of some giant 12- to 16-man clusterfuck of a match--I had it on an old Jack Epstein compilation tape but have never quite figured out what was going on.
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[1997-10-27-WCW-Nitro] Hulk Hogan vs DDP
Is this the last great Hogan WCW match? It's awesome on almost all levels--Hogan TAKES IT TO THE MAT and actually looks better and more organic doing it than he does in Japan. He unleashes a bevy of old Japan offense like the jumping knee, and he even does a back suplex on the floor. Page does an awesome job of selling the ribs, even as he gets thrown into the ropes, but gets a few cool hope spots here and there. Hogan takes a lot of the match but definitely knows when to show fear and bail out, especially on the Diamond Cutter tease. And that was a fantastic sequence where Hogan hit the big boot out of nowhere, only to miss the Legdrop--markout city. This match really couldn't end any other way but the post-match is pretty much Nitro by Numbers at this point, and even though the crowds are still hot I'm getting a sense of diminishing returns here. They change things up a little bit as Scott Hall gets a Scorpion Death Drop instead of just the B-teamers getting one (and yes, Vincent looked horrible--Hennig's set-up was pretty awkward, too). I was all prepared to complain about, ratings wars notwithstanding, DDP and Savage wrestling after the way their Death Match was sold the previous night. But this passed with flying colors thanks to the consistent story being told in-ring and DDP's selling, and the announced Babyface Flair vs. Heel Savage sounds awfully interesting though who knows what shape Savage was in. One to take a look at, though.
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[1997-10-27-WCW-Nitro] Chris Benoit vs Fit Finlay
Not much of that finesse shit here--just two guys beating the dog snot out of each other. Finlay does do some way-cool takedowns, though. And a good way of getting Finlay over in defeat.
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[1997-10-27-WCW-Nitro] Larry Zbyszko and Scott Hall
This eventually got over leading to a big "LARRY!" chant but Zybszko and Hall seemed to be talking past each other. Hall pays some lip service to the program but mainly sticks to catchphrases and hyping Hollywood Hogan's match later.