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This is a reminder that a Landel vs. Flair main event drew the largest crowd and gate in the history of Raleigh's Dorton Arena, at least to that point.

This thread might be the first outright defense of Baron Scicluna as a worker. That's not me being snide, just an observation. There is a squash or two on All-Star Wrestling where he surprisingly does some solid wrestling, instead of going straight to the foreign object shtick.

On top of that, she was born in Florida in December of 1986. And which promotion were the Fabs working in March? Here's a hint: until the previous year it had been owned by Eddie Graham.

Another vote for prioritizing Crockett.

It is indeed. If I may adjust my overcorrection glasses here, the final Elvis concert was in Indianapolis at Market Square Arena, a few months after Amarillo. And since it all ties back to wrestling, I *only* know this because Jesse Ventura mentions it during the Honky Tonk Man's entrance on the 2/88 Main Event (which was in the same building).

I'm more with brainfollower here. It's ***1/2 work with * psychology. And while it's not really anyone's "fault," London is the absolute worst place to debut Flair in his first real "name" match.

Don't forget Zeus. 1989 Ron Simmons would have been a perfectly serviceable house show opponent for Hogan. He could have faced either one of the Zambuies earlier on, though I don't see the WWF pushing a militant African gimmick.

Then there's this from that channel that blew my mind: Akira Taue vs. Harley Race from '89. In a match that's not on the 1989 AJ TV set--this must be another match that only aired on local/regional TV, which we have a few of around this time but obviously not everything. This is one I've never heard of before.

That channel also uploaded (and has subsequently pulled) Antonio Inoki vs. Bearcat Wright from 1975, one of Wright's final matches. It's nothing altogether spectacular and Wright was pretty old, but he's a seminal figure in wrestling history, a WON HOF member, and a guy with very little footage out there. It was a neat find regardless of match quality.

And the Kelly Twins did in fact have a quick run in Memphis as (wait for it) THE CLONES. Because of course they did. Individual ring names 327 and 328.

Hall has shown some keen insights about how to get himself over that I never considered before (he did lots of moves involving holding up the opponent for long periods of time--not just the Razor's Edge but also the fallaway slam/blockbuster/"sack of shit"--because they made for good magazine photos. Stuff like that). There's a difference between getting yourself over and getting others over, granted. Now, Sean Waltman is definitely someone I'd tap into to be a finish/layout guy. Even in his teens working with Jerry Lynn on Minnesota indies, he was showing an ability to not just ape the latest HOT MOVEZ from Japan but also Japan juniors-style psychology--he's a rare wrestling tape-watcher who learned most of the right lessons instead of being all about movez and kickouts.

Just speaking for me, Eric Fires Back seems like it would get old to read, much less transcribe, real quick. Another vote for Herd.

Might be Cesaro vs. Neville from the first NXT Live. Did that one ever get an official release anywhere?

Turning Goldberg sounds worse than what they actually did.

I do think Scott Steiner had potential to be that heel prospect, but he was always a question of reliability (not just whether he'd do something stupid to get himself suspended, but the constant injuries he was facing).

I'm of the firm belief that whenever the Streak would end, that it should happen clean as a sheet. You could make a new star if they beat Goldberg clean and you play your cards right. Kevin Sullivan agreed with me, and pitched an alternate finish where Goldberg would try to spear Nash and knock himself out against the turnbuckle or post. That would give Nash a monumental win, but at least protect Goldberg inasmuch as the only guy who could "beat" Goldberg would be himself. I'm also of the belief that you don't really worry about ending the Streak until it's clearly time to do it. After all, did Vince, Sr. and other promoters fret about Andre the Giant "going stale" in the '70s and early '80s? Of course not. When he was finally decisively beaten on a major stage that everyone saw and knew about, it was when the time was right and not before. And while there was that little out in the opening part of the match with Marella to protect Andre and give cause for an eventual rematch, in the end he put Hogan over without any gaga or interference or cattle prods. That said, viable Streakbuster options as I see it: - DDP. I agree with C.S., he wouldn't be my choice either. But he's listed because he had the one move that could believably put Goldberg down, which no one else can say. - Scott Steiner. Probably my #1 pick. You'd have a new monster heel and he was believable enough as being big and crazy enough to beat the unbeatable. - Chris Benoit. Okay, maybe my early-2000s smarkdom is showing. Forget about what happened afterward for a minute--Benoit was believable enough as a Giant Killer and a win would have erased the best-wrestler-not-to-hold-a-title choker label that he had, and would get him into main events where a lot of fans clearly wanted him. Obviously politically it was never going to happen, but in a perfect world he'd be an intriguing option. - Bret Hart. Not really making a "new" star, but in a perfect world where Goldberg keeps the belt, it's hard not to envision a Starrcade where Bret makes the ultimate Memorial Parade of Champions moment and triumphs over him. A properly built match for Starrcade '99 could have sold out SkyDome or Stade Olympique in Montreal, and the story just seems too good to pass up. - Sting. Again, maybe a waste, but like DDP he's another guy that I think WCW fans would have bought as being able to believably do it so I'm obliged to at least acknowledge him.

I've fallen out of modern-wrestling-following with the lack of crowds, so do we know for sure that he was injured or was this a "Jumbo Tsuruta will miss the next tour with a knee injury" type thing?

Bruce Mitchell turned into Andy Rooney so gradually I didn't even notice. Holy shit, talk about talking loud and saying nothing. And no, Bruce, COVID has not at this time "possibly mutated into something more deadly." There is absolutely no evidence to support that. You can't preach about "responsibility" and openness and spread a mistruth or outright falsehood like that. Sorry for continuing to derail a thread about a better man than Bruce Mitchell ever will be. Carry on, folks.

https://www.mediotiempo.com/lucha-libre/muere-dr-alfonso-morales-icono-lucha-libre-box-mexico The voice of lucha libre on Televisa died at 71 of kidney failure, as the "fuck 2020" tour continues.

I can't even tell you hard I did a mental fist pump the first time I heard Bret cut a promo hyping WCW's May PPV. Yes, as I hoped, he declared that he would be at "The Slamboree."

Dave said on The Board that the number of ballots he sends out is "over 400," though he doesn't get every ballot back.

Not to get off PWO but that's actually the opposite of the premise of Carlin's bit, which is that the condition was treated more seriously when it was known as "shell-shock" and not buried under jargon like "post-traumatic stress disorder." The whole bit was an attack on the dishonesty of euphemisms.

People need to get on the Network and go to 12/4/95 Raw and watch the segment with Dr. Unger talking about Shawn Michaels. He frankly and convincingly lays out the long-term effects of even a single concussion and does it in so matter-of-fact of a manner that it's obvious that the medical community was pretty much at a consensus over the short-term and long-term effects 25 years ago. That was transparently bullshit even in 1995, at least with actual doctors who weren't marks on some organization's payroll. People just had their heads in the sand over it, and the NFL was actively covering the long-term effects up.

Dory did appear in ECW a few times (as well as Smoky). Terry had runs in WCW in '94 and again from '98-'01.