Everything posted by PeteF3
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The fake Stan Lane story and others of that ilk
That was who broke was talking about when he mentioned smoeater. I think most of the big reveals got deleted off KFM in short order, maybe even the entire thread, though the old KFM archives are still around. The Classics post was still around as of a year or so ago.
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[1996-12-04-BattlARTS] Victor Krueger & Carl Greco vs Daisuke Ikeda & Takeshi Ono
Greco was supposedly trained by the Malenkos but with the bowl haircut and ridiculous '90s soul patch I think he's actually Eels frontman Mark Everett. I didn't think much of this. Kruger is good for some chop-down-the-tree spots and Greco has some nice suplexes, but this didn't have the strong layout of the MPro crossover match before and just sort of peters to the ending.
- [1996-12-04-BattlARTS] Daisuke Ikeda & Takeshi Ono vs Taka Michinoku & Shoichi Funaki
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[1996-12-02-WCW-Nitro] NWO take over announce booth
Savage's contract was up and he was pretty unhappy with how things were going, and who could blame him? Havoc was essentially a contractual obligation and then it was widely assumed he was WWF-bound. I guess getting into the NWO and avoiding a demolition every week was one of the perks of his re-signing.
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The best of the 70's wrestlers
Mulligan was very much the Big Boss Man of the '70s--a big man who was not only surprisingly nimble but who could do a stunningly effective job of working underneath as a sympathy babyface, despite dwarfing most of his opponents. There's a face Mulligan vs. heel Paul Jones match on the Mid-Atlantic films that should totally not work, but it does.
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[1991-04-30-NJPW-Explosion Tour: Top of the Super Juniors] Jushin Liger vs Negro Casas
Fire Pro Wrestling Returns for the PS2 calls it a "bat hanging lock." Sometimes they fudged move names to get around trademarks but that works for me.
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Botchamania
pol explained it better than I did. No problem with the videos at all, I just take issue (and it may not entirely be rational) with the style of criticism it's unintentionally created.
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Botchamania
I hate how it's made "botch" into some sort of quasi-insider term, complete with a fucking Wikipedia entry.
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Dave Meltzer stuff
When was it confirmed that that actually happened? The PWO, F4W, and KFM threads all end ambiguously.
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Global Force Wrestling
I think the more accurate statement would be, "Ask TV how important the major sports leagues are."
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The NBA Playoffs are pro wrestling
Or Hakeem? Or did he get done and I missed it? Could Olajuwon be Bret Hart? Two titles in a Jordan/Hogan-less era, "foreign" (to differing degrees), technically sound, not the outsized personality of the other major stars of the era...I dunno, maybe it doesn't hold up.
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[1991-04-27-WCW-Saturday Night] Interview: Ric Flair
I doubt NJPW would have gone for a joint Dome show if their guy wasn't going over in the end somehow. That said...WCW would have been better off trying to swing it with Muto here, whose name carried at least some cache with their audience.
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The NBA Playoffs are pro wrestling
Buddy Landell?
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The Comprehensive All Japan 1990's Thread
I'm just embarrassed to have forgotten that Kobashi-Hansen match already. That was on the Yearbook and well-loved and everything. Still, point stands. I think AJPW's limit on the Jr. title was 105 kg, as opposed to NJPW's 100 kg (220 pounds). Still, as good as the matches were, yeah, Kroffat as a junior was kind of an odd sight.
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The Comprehensive All Japan 1990's Thread
One of my main takeaways as I near the end of 1996 is that Kobashi is getting quite the Rey Misterio-as-World-Champion-style title reign. He couldn't beat Kawada in his first defense. He's still working as an underneath babyface in the RWTL matches, the blame for which may be just as much on him as on the booker. And while I get the double round-robin format allowed for more upsets than a typical AJPW tourney, I remain baffled by the decision to job him to Gary Albright. I also don't get the vibe that he and Patriot are serious contenders to walk home with the trophy in the end (even accounting that we already know what the final match is). Not sure that's really a good place for your Triple Crown champion to be.
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[1996-11-16-GAEA-Big Target] Chigusa Nagayo vs Sonoko Kato
Lynch. FLIK sold me on it in the Other 1996 thread.
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[1996-12-01-NJPW-Final Battle] Masahiro Chono & Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs Kazuo Yamazaki & Takashi Iizuka
This RULED. All kinds of low blows, payback spots, distracted referees (!), outside interference (!!), and other things that serve to disgrace puroresu but are oh so glorious when Team Chono are doing them. Iizuka does what he does best which is take a beating and provide hope spots, but Yamazaki is really who's holding this together, as he decides, "fuck sportsmanship" and gives back everything that Chono & Tenzan like to do. Some heart-stopping near-falls down the stretch make this one of the better under-the-radar NJPW tags of the year.
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[1996-12-01-NJPW-Final Battle] Shinya Hashimoto & Junji Hirata vs Riki Choshu & Kensuke Sasaki
Hirata gets tortured quite a bit here, but the real focus is Choshu gunning for Hashimoto as he prepares for an IWGP title shot on 1/4. Gotta love old man Choshu throwing dropkicks at Hash standing on the ring apron. We get more good chop-down-the-tree stuff at the end, too. Another nice short cozy tag, though not as great as the AJPW sprint from the day before.
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[1996-12-01-Inoki Festival] Great Sasuke & Masato Yakushiji & Naohiro Hoshikawa & Gran Hamada & Super Delphin vs Taka Michinoku & Dick Togo & Mens Teoh & Shiryu & Shoichi Funaki
I dunno, I'd say Sasuke took quite a FIP-style beating. Still, everyone gets to shine here and the closing stretch is one of the very best of the year. Hell, Yakushiji pinning Togo seemed like a legitimate possibility. I think These Days was a smidgen better, thanks to a better atmosphere in part, but on the other hand Sasuke definitely felt like a missing piece there.
- [1996-12-01-Inoki Festival] Jushin Liger & El Samurai vs Shinjiro Otani & Koji Kanemoto
- [1996-12-01-Inoki Festival] Ultimo Dragon vs Gran Naniwa
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[1996-11-30-AJPW-Real World Tag League] Mitsuharu Misawa & Jun Akiyama vs Steve Williams & Johnny Ace
A cozy 7 and a half minutes of bombs at a breakneck pace. There's probably a better parallel to the famous Hagler vs. Hearns fight than this--it's a good match but not *quite* that transcendent--but none are really coming to mind right now. In the first minute, Akiyama takes a backdrop driver, Doc gets knocked out by a rolling elbow, Misawa takes an Ace Crusher, and Ace takes a tiger driver--the car wreck on the highway analogy so favored by JR has never been more apt than it is here. This is like a Yearbook match clipped to the finishing stretch, but the clipping is by the wrestlers and not by editing.
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[1996-11-29-CMLL] El Hijo del Santo & Scorpio Jr & Bestia Salvaje vs Negro Casas & El Dandy & Hector Garza
Another war, with some holy-shit spots that probably didn't go as planned. Garza attempts a shooting star press to the floor but only does about 70% of the revolution, and amazingly doesn't break his neck. That came right after Scorpio Jr. tried a tope and instead of hitting his partner as intended, just goes splat face-first on the floor. Interesting that by the end of this, the main issues seem to be Dandy vs. Santo and Casas vs. Scorpio, instead of the Casas/Santo rivalry that precipitated this whole thing. The technicos are more prepared this time and execute a big comeback at the end, with Casas and Dandy stomping the shit out of Santo and dogpiling him for the final pin.
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[1996-11-29-AJPW-Real World Tag League] Mitsuharu Misawa & Jun Akiyama vs Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue
In particular, I'll mention Taue countering one of Misawa's elbow flurries with an enzuigiri, but then immediately grabbing his ankle that Misawa had worked on a little bit earlier and being forced to tag out. Just a neat little touch to get the opening matwork stuff over. But that's a relatively tiny and inconsiderate portion of the match. What a fucking match it is. Misawa gets completely destroyed in the first 5 minutes, taking an amazing nodowa off Kawada's shoulders to the floor. Akiyama really feels like a peer in there--he'd already reached that level, but it's still notable to see him taking on Kawada and Taue by himself and actually holding his own. And the counters are out of this world--like the '93 Taue/Kawada Carnival match but quicker and even more numerous. At one point the HDA tries to execute a combo power bomb/choke slam on Misawa, but he huracanranas out of it in another holy-shit spot. Eventually Taue gets taken out and Kawada is left alone with Jun and Misawa and is overwhelmed. Cannot, cannot, cannot wait until 12/9 now.
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[1996-11-25-WCW-Nitro] Interview: Eric Bischoff
Bischoff overdoes a few of his pet gestures like the fake smile and the "we're not worthy" thing, but he's doing an effective job of ramping up all the qualities that made him so unlikable as a babyface. After a few weeks of build, Bagwell completes his heel turn by punking out Scotty Riggs and taking Bischoff up on his offer/threat.