PeteF3
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This definitely meant a lot to Vince as they constantly refer to him by his full real name. As a tribute video, this doesn't have to take a back seat to anybody in any way, shape, or form. -
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"Off" describes this very well. Not all of it is Jericho's fault (like the lights), but some of it is. The first "uh-oh" sign for Jericho's early run came at Unforgiven when he wasn't given a pinfall win over X-Pac on his PPV debut. Now he does a more-or-less clean job to the Rock--not a career killer of course, but I agree there probably should have been a schmozz finish here instead. Bulldog's run-in afterward is pretty pathetic, and Rock doing these programs with Billy Gunn, Bulldog, and later Al Snow reeks of 1995 Bret Hart.
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Mankind with strong words with Val Venis for grabbing him by the groin: "I didn't like it when I was an altar boy, and I DIDN'T LIKE IT THEN." I remember Foley's second book where he decried these segments as the worst stuff Russo had ever written--and he was always a Russo friend and defender--bringing up the marriage proposal specifically. And we get a big dropoff from JR to Cole, who has to giggle at everything either guy says which starts rubbing off Lawler. This is kind of all over the place, with some funny moments but is pretty much a pale imitation of last week. I liked Jericho's countdown not letting Rock finish his "stick it straight up your--" catchphrase. Jericho calls out Rock on his Freudian fixation on sticking inanimate objects up other people's anal cavities while also wishing Rock and Mankind well in their future relationship. How progressive for 1999! Jericho gets a main event slot against Rock. Mankind and Stevie Richards are jumped in the interview area by the Dudleys--I do vaguely remember this mini-feud, actually, including the Dudleys tearing up the Rock 'n Sock jackets on Smackdown. BB makes what I think is her second appearance (of about 7 total) as one of the paramedics tending to Foley.
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And my point which was seemingly skipped over is that TMZ has scooped major conglomerate-backed media on bigger stories than this before. I'm not sure why everyone's dander is up over an ex-TMZ guy knowing how to break stories. And I'm not even a big Satin fan, but his track record is pretty darn good.
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TMZ broke the Donald Sterling incident, the Tiger Woods car crash and the story behind it, the Ray Rice video, Jameis Winston being investigated for sexual assault by the Tallahassee police, and--biggest of all--Michael Jackson's death. They're trashy and shameless but I'll believe them over a lot of other news outlets. Edit: For whatever it's worth Meltzer is denying that their behavior has anything to do with Jimmy Jacobs or Neville. When asked about the possibility of being released: "It's all up to Vince. He's he guy who suspended Titus for 90 days for nothing. Trying to predict his reactions are a waste of time because they are often contradictory and make no sense. Neither is looking to leave."
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I don't trust SI at all on these matters--if they did that, then the promo would have been edited. Cena's sudden return would make a little more sense if Owens was originally supposed to be on Team Smackdown.
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Owens and Zayn have both been sent home from the European tour. No further real details.
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I vaguely remember the show but have no clue who these two people are. Droz makes his farewell to WWF television as only he can do.
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Austin has now suddenly "not yet been cleared" to wrestle, so it's like we hit a reset button on the Austin injury angle from SummerSlam. HHH does a good job of disingenuously apologizing and inviting Ross into the ring. Good segment that nicely descends into chaos with HHH being a supreme dick but not a totally masturbatory one.
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Or it would have been a funny post-hoc explanation for why Stephanie turned on her family--the trash can made her insane. Not much else to say here, this is just by-design wheel-spinning while the new creative cooks up a new climax.
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A little over a year after Flair's return, *this* is probably the last great WCW moment. I don't know if I'd call this a MOTYC--it's more just a good fundamentally solid bout than an epic, but at the time this really felt like a farewell to wrestling as an art form in and of itself. In-ring performance seemed to matter less than ever in the U.S., and we didn't know the changes that would come to the WWF in 2000--just that Russo was likely to send WCW in a similar direction to the Attitude Era. For one last night, so we thought, we got a hard-hitting 20-minute match with a clean finish on free TV. Heenan really came off as a jackass at times and I wonder what the hell he was thinking or what direction he was given, but I liked the total silence from all the announcers after the finish.
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Sort of an attempt to recreate the original invasion, but now Hall and Nash are treated by announcers and fans alike as returning conquering heros. Hall: "He works a retirement angle and he's nagging *me* to come back?" Then Hall makes a crack about the state of the locker room. Nothing like two of your guys shitting on your company on live TV. Nash is hugging a black companion to prove how cool he is.
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Well, it's been 3 weeks or so, time to turn Davey Boy heel. But as an ad hoc angle this serves its purpose.
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Everything Chad said. I think Doug's original return is still PPW's high point but this might be #2. Gilbert's interview is incredible and I really want to make room for him in the list of Best Interviews at year's end. I just spoke about "twists and turns" in the Dreamer/Tajiri match thread but this takes it to a new level--every time you think this segment is ready to die down, something happens (something that *makes sense*, mind) to ramp the intensity back up again. More false finishes than an ROH main event.
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Wolfie D explains to Kurt Angle what Attitude is: rated PG-13. Why, yes, I do want to see this match. He also teases a return, without saying his name, of JC Ice.
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Tajiri is great, but Dreamer to his credit did seem motivated to put on an actual good match knowing who his opponent was, and he did a good job of mocking Tajiri's mannerisms and his offense. This match had a few twists and turns that'll keep you guessing and I don't mind the story of Raven tormenting Dreamer as his tag partner. It's at least a bit of a spin on the otherwise played-out bickering-tag-champs angles of the late '90s.
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Well, Raw obviously didn't spark much interest here, but I think Smackdown will:
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