Everything posted by PeteF3
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[1999-03-29-WCW-Nitro] Ric Flair, DDP and Hulk Hogan
Canada's a pretty easy place to turn Flair, and evidently it's an easy place to turn DDP as well. The dynamics of this are still all kinds of messed up, as Page and Flair are cutting promos on each other even though both are supposed to be turning and even though Page still wants Scott Steiner. Hogan comes out and babyfaces himself to at least try to add some contrast to this mess. Oh, hey, it's Sting, is he still with the promotion?
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[1999-03-29-WCW-Nitro] Kevin Nash and Torrie Wilson
No, see, Nash says "angle" multiple times, so this is automatically interesting.
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[1999-03-29-WCW-Nitro] Interview: DDP
Page's promo isn't bad but yeah, this setting is weird. Page refers to the near-crippling of his wife as a "fiasco." That's one way of describing it. Nash's lack of focus is pretty clear in these first two segments--if Page is turning then I'm not sure we even need to address the Steiner feud (unless he's turning too, which he isn't).
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[1999-03-29-WCW-Nitro] Hulk Hogan and Torrie Wilson
Okay, the Fingerpoke was two months ago. Selling the match like it was an epic was funny a couple of times, but it's played out now. David(?) presumably now sees Hogan as his father. This tells us nothing and advances nothing.
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[1999-03-28-WWF-Wrestlemania XV] Steve Austin vs The Rock
This held up *way* better than I was expecting. There were unnecessary bells and whistles in the match just like there were in the build-up, but the work was good, the match always kept moving even during the brawling on the floor (I liked how Austin broke up the "I have your head so you have to walk with me" stuff with occasional punches and kicks, just to keep things semi-realistic), and of course the molten crowd always helps. This crowd was so into the match that they were popping for near-falls off Samoan drops and chair shots. This Mania was shit on at the time, and at times it did feel like an episode of Raw that you had to pay for, but on the whole I think this show ended up being better than its rep. Edit: Late edit for posterity...the Observer polls had this at 125 thumbs up, 57 down, 45 middle, so reaction was more positive than I remembered. Online reaction tended to be worse, albeit divided.
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WWE TV 5/8-5/14: Braun Injured Out 4-8 weeks
Meltzer was answering a different question than what was asked. He noted that he was "wrestling every night," but the story said that Strowman is due for elbow surgery. On the WON board Dave walked that Tweet back a bit and was digging further.
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[1999-03-28-WWF-Wrestlemania XV] The Undertaker vs Big Bossman (Hell in a Cell)
Philly is in open revolt for this farce. ECW is over and done with as a relevant entity but I'm not sure a chant a la King of the Ring '95 wouldn't be welcomed here. Of course the lasting image from this match is Michael Cole yammering, "IS THIS SYMBOLIC?!" as a man is ostensibly choking to death in front of his eyes. He's not "hanging the Corporation in effigy," you moron, he's ACTUALLY HANGING SOMEONE.
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[1999-03-28-WWF-Wrestlemania XV] X-Pac vs Shane McMahon
Yeah, as swerves go this wasn't a bad one, and it actually served a greater purpose in setting up a future top heel, something they would need as a Rock face turn was probably inevitable.
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[1999-03-28-WWF-Wrestlemania XV] HHH vs Kane
We're well into that stretch where any wrestler willingly handing a weapon to a "helper" from the outside is begging to be turned on. It happens to Kane here.
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[1999-03-28-WWF-Wrestlemania XV] Kane and Pete Rose
Pete has no shame, never did. A perfect fit for wrestling.
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[1999-03-28-WWF-Wrestlemania XV] Mankind vs Big Show
This show pretty much gave birth to the term WSEF, though it had been well on its way really since December of '97. Vince is mic'd, for some reason (making movies!) but is really good here. Can't say the same for the other performances or the booking.
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[1999-03-28-WWF-Wrestlemania XV] Bart Gunn vs Butterbean (Brawl For All)
Bart's reaction to the very first punch of the match indicates just how much he's in over his head. According to Dave Meltzer, both in the WONs of the time and his appearance on the Lapsed Fan, the WWF really did think Gunn could win this.
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[1999-03-28-AJPW-Championship Carnival] Vader vs Mitsuharu Misawa
Good heat for okay but marginal action. I'm not sure I get the logic of your Tokyo Dome challenger pinning the champion in advance of the big show--on the other hand, I wouldn't have gotten the logic of your Triple Crown champion stampeding through the Carnival, either. On the other hand, if Kawada wasn't out then they might have been able to hold off on Misawa vs. Vader one-on-one until the Dome.
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[1999-03-27-KAW-TV] Pulp Fiction
Seeing as how this entire motley crew looks indistinguishable from the heroin-ravaged small town residents of my home state I daresay KAW is 18 years ahead of its time.
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[1999-03-27-KAW-TV] Sid Vicious arrives
P-O-B! P-O-B! Don't know what it stands for, gonna chant it anyway. KAW even springs for a limo which I'm sure Sid insisted on.
- [1999-03-27-MPPW-TV] Interview: Jerry Lawler & Bill Dundee
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[1999-03-22-WWF-Raw] Steve Austin vs Big Show
Yeah, Big Show isn't ready for prime time yet. His whole presentation is off--he's not carrying himself as a monster (other than the spot where he no-sells the posting), he's overweight, and the ring gear isn't all that flattering. Which is not to say he should have been doing the job here by any means. They try to save him somewhat by having him pop up from the Stunner after the 3-count, but too little, too late. Rock manages to lay out Stone Cold as we close out another pre-WrestleMania build-up that, strong go-home Raw notwithstanding, wasn't half as effective as the build to WM14. Just too many moving parts in the main event and not enough focus on the mid-card.
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[1999-03-22-WWF-Raw] HHH and Kane
I didn't mind this, it was a payback (of sorts) for the previous week where it was someone disguised as Kane, unrelated though that angle was. I have to admit, both of these fooled me. Triple H pulled this off well.
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[1999-03-22-WWF-Raw] Jim Ross Frat Party
Shouldn't it be ROSS IS WAR? And yes, Hardcore Holly showed up after this (JR calls him out in this segment for breaking his table the previous week) to brawl with Doc.
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[1999-03-22-WWF-Raw] Vince McMahon, Steve Austin, The Rock and Mankind
A money segment for sure and one of the iconic moments of the era. Maybe the strongest overall WWF segment of 1999, since the Russo-ism is minimized to the finagling over the referees and the rest is about all these incredible dynamic personalities showing off. Austin cuts one of his best promos in months--checking into the Smackdown Hotel and BURNING THAT SUMBITCH TO THE GROUND. Everything is focused on what's going to happen at WrestleMania and we close out with an indelible image that Vince puts over beautifully.
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[1999-03-22-WCW-Nitro] Ric Flair vs Rey Misterio Jr
I have to admit I enjoyed this quite a bit. Maybe because it looks so good by comparison to what else is going on in WCW and the work is better than most WWF matches by this point. Flair doesn't mesh with Rey perfectly but he does it a lot better than one might expect, and other than Flair-Goldberg this is the first Nitro main event in months to carry some "what exactly is going to happen?" intrigue to it. Better than some other "yes, this match really happened" matches of the decade.
- [1999-03-22-WCW-Nitro] Interview: Bret Hart
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[1999-03-22-WCW-Nitro] Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash and Miss Nitro
God knows what the point of this was, since they're still half-assing this supposed Hogan and Nash babyface turn. Nash says something to Sable in a desperate attempt to be cool. Hogan's equally desperate attempts to get "YOU DID *NOT* JUST SAY THAT!" over the live mic is another demonstration of how far he's fallen.
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- [1999-03-22-RINGS] Kiyoshi Tamura vs Hiromitsu Kanehara
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Letters From Center Stage
So, so glad to see this show crop up (or return)--especially because there's probably a *million* weird forgotten things in WCW that are far weirder and far more forgotten than WWF stuff like Battle Kat or Friar Ferguson. Just spitballing about the Underdog Challenge here--maybe Watts was trying to create "pushed jobbers" like the Sal Sincere/TL Hopper types brought in by the WWF in 1996? That is, give some guys a few wins just to add a bit more intrigue to squash matches, only in a far more Watts-ian way than the WWF did?