Everything posted by PeteF3
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[1998-11-09-WWF-Raw] Vince McMahon and Shane McMahon
Shane still does his best to kill segments, but Vince manages to carry this--as does JR, especially with his righteous indignation when Vince sics the Boss Man on his son. Vince is pure Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood at this point, almost eerily so.
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[1998-11-09-WWF-Raw] Mankind vs Ken Shamrock
A small package on the floor! You know Mick called that spot and every falls-count-anywhere match should have a similar one. This is pretty fun, despite some cringeworthy-in-hindsight bumps and spots like chairs to the head. There may be a future in this whole Hardcore title business.
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[1998-11-09-WWF-Raw] Mankind makeover
Mankind gets a shave, a haircut, and a pedicure, per Vince McMahon's orders. Mankind informs us that Vince is just a big cuddly teddy bear.
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[1998-11-09-WWF-Raw] Survivor Series commercial / X-Pac recap
Straight to-the-point ad. Kane tires to shoot a fireball at the Undertaker, but UT used X-Pac as a shield.
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[1998-11-09-WCW-Nitro] Chris Jericho and Goldberg
It's really silly that they didn't at least get a TV main event out of this mini-angle. Now Jericho is off to feud with Bobby Duncum, Jr.
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[1998-11-09-WCW-Nitro] Music Video: Konnan
Too repetitive, and this would of course get more airtime than "With My Baby Tonight."
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[1998-11-09-WCW-Nitro] Hulk Hogan for President
WAIT a second...after that last segment, now it's Luger/Nash vs. Hall/Giant and Bret vs. KONNAN? Does this make logic? Shouldn't Bret be facing Sting's friend who challenged him?? Mean Gene and the Brain are in the parking lot awaiting the "President," and even for an NWO fib it reeks of pathetic desperation that WCW would tease that this might actually take place. Oh, Loss already used the word "pathetic." Well, I concur. This motorcade entrance is dragged out to an absurd degree as Okerlund spends an eternity arguing with the Secret Service guys. Heenan really comes off terribly thinking that this is actually Bill Clinton, and not even in a gullible-heel type of way. WHY ARE SCHIAVONE AND TENAY GOING ALONG WITH THIS?? Limousines and an NWO promise = the truth now?? "Hail to the Chief" starts up and it's...Hogan. Wow, stunning. They sure fooled all of us. This is the biggest public display of Hogan insecurity since the Doomsday Cage Match. Clearly Ventura's gubernatorial victory got to him in a bigger way than anyone could have anticipated. Okerlund is out here for some reason--again, Mean Gene should not be interviewing NWO members. Hogan weirdly praises Jesse, maybe because he wants to be a hanger-on. After all the hype, we don't even get the name of Hogan's running mate that was promised. One of the worst and most bizarre segments of the year. WHY ARE THE ANNOUNCERS ALL TAKING THIS AT FACE VALUE??
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[1998-11-09-WCW-Nitro] NWO Wolfpac and Eric Bischoff
We don't need any of that good-wrestling-in-the-midcard shit anymore, so the Wolfpac just end a match between Wright and Horowitz--it's gonna get worse before it gets better, folks. The Wolfpac's numbers are dwindling thanks to NWO Hollywood but the dire straits the group is in doesn't get in the way of their catchphrases. Nash wants Hall, Luger wants Bret, Konnan wants whatever. Bischoff promises to give the Wolfpack the "Black & White," which I'm guessing is another swerve.
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- [1998-11-08-WWF-Sunday Night Heat] The Rock and Vince McMahon
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[1998-11-08-WCW-Michinoku Pro] Super Delphin & Gran Naniwa vs Naohiro Hoshikawa & Masato Yakushiji
Really awesome stuff here, and against all odds MPro actually feels a bit freshened up with Kaientai out of the picture--at least in isolation. I thought both of the babyfaces were pretty much done by this point, so to see them turn up here and still working seemingly as good as ever was one of the most pleasant surprises of the Yearbook. There are a hell of a lot of kickouts here but I never found this overindulgent--they knew when to have the big kickout and when to make it clear that Yakushiji was dead if not for a save. One of the best markout-worthy finishes of the Yearbook as well, as this had you thinking the underdog had a slim chance, then thinking this was going to be yet another youngster pushing the veteran to the limit before losing, before the youngster actually pulls a win out of his ass. Just about a perfectly-paced juniors tag match. Evil cigar-chomping Sasuke makes a cameo at the end.
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[1998-11-05-WCW-Thunder] Eddy Guerrero vs Rey Misterio Jr
Pretty eh match with the stipulation seemingly carrying less weight than it should. The sudden finish feels less like the time expiring and more like a screwjob.
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- 1998
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[1998-11-03-CMLL] Astro Rey Jr & Oriental & Yoshihiro Taijiri & Tony Rivera vs Karloff Lagarde Jr & Ultimo Guerrero & Violencia & Zumbido
A spotfest that really got worse and sloppier as the match went along--even the referee. I wasn't happy to see Tajiri go out so quickly, either, as he was probably the most fundamentally solid worker of the bunch. These guys all work hard and it's never particularly boring, but they clearly didn't have much of a plan beyond who was going over and when.
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[1997-07-28-WWF-Raw] Bret Hart vs The Patriot
That and he was a Jim Cornette Guy, I believe, and Cornette would be one person to fight to keep him as is.
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[1997-07-28-WWF-Raw] Bret Hart vs The Patriot
Well, Andre *was* his WWF character, and there are myriad other guys in the early expansion era who kept their character: Savage, Billy Jack, Hercules, John Studd, the Freebirds, Killer Khan, Nikolai Volkoff, Windham in '84, and on and on and on. And just this calendar year you had Pillman.
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Rebooking the WWF in 1993
Crush was pretty badly exposed when he actually had to work a real match. There's an alternate universe where he actually develops into something working mid-card for another year while Doink carries out his originally planned feud with Davey Boy, but as it was, I can't see it.
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[1998-11-02-WWF-Raw] Big Bossman, Pat Patterson & Jerry Brisco
Vince sparing Shane is *almost* enough for me to think that my hypothesis, desperately trying to explain away why Shane re-hired Austin just to fuck him over, might actually be true. This was awesome and Vince was awesome--amazing how the WWF has again crafted a segment revolving around 3 old retirees and a WCW also-ran into something far more compelling than anything WCW could put together with its gaggle of legends.
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[1998-11-02-WWF-Raw] The Rock vs Ken Shamrock
Fun match--nothing new under the sun, exactly, but the heat is incredible and it's cool to see these two again with the heel-face dynamics reversed. Shamrock is coming into his own surprisingly well as a heel. Vince's reactions during and after the match are just tremendous, and the direction is really quite good as well.
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[1998-11-02-WWF-Raw] Vince McMahon and Mankind
I think it was determined later that this was definitively *not* the belt that Mr. Perfect smashed on SNME, but something made up specifically for this angle. I wonder if they realized how much mileage they'd get out of this title at this moment.
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[1998-11-02-WWF-Raw] Vince McMahon and Shaquille O'Neill
This is a night for random sports cameos. This one I remember well, though. Supposedly Shaq was just back there visiting and they wrote him into a skit.
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[1998-11-02-WWF-Raw] Shane McMahon, Steve Austin & Vince McMahon
I like confident, vindictive Vince over overacting abused Vince. Vince is such a good performer that he's bulletproof no matter how badly he's embarrassed, but after the past few weeks, Mr. McMahon desperately needs to get some heat back on himself.
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- [1998-11-02-WCW-Nitro] Interview: Chris Jericho
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[1998-11-02-WCW-Nitro] LWO and Konnan
I appreciated Eddy outing Konnan as being an Anglo but I don't get why the 7 LWO guys didn't just kick K-Dawg's ass, too. Oh, sure, Eddy tries to explain it by saying he didn't want the Wolfpack coming out with their bats, but since when did the Wolfpack ever give a shit about saving their own? They sure haven't shown it on past episodes of TV. Fort Lauderdale was a good place to run this angle, though. I too had no recollection of A-Rod, who's remarkably skinny here...
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[1998-11-02-WCW-Nitro] Raven and Kanyon vignette
This is the start of the angle where it was revealed that Raven was a spoiled rich kid growing up, which I thought was a sensible twist to the character and fitting with his past gimmicks.
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