PeteF3
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How did he have a "job for life"? Why was he taking tickets in a Knoxville theater for years? -
I haven't gotten to this yet for context, but wasn't he allegedly a domestic abuser when married to Penny Banner?
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Stan Stasiak was from Quebec but not Montreal Ivan Koloff was from Montreal, though.
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Decent action here, with Rock looking good in defeat. This features a rare People's Elbow that's a.) set up by a Russian legsweep, which I've never seen before, and b.) is done toward and away from the hard camera instead of parallel to it.
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Among many, many things to love about this: how the heart rate monitor rapidly increases the speed of its beeping when Vince is told he has a visitor. The teases--both the nurse's telling Vince that a big guy threatened to beat up the orderlies if he wasn't let in, and Mankind talking about "some female entertainment, if you know what I mean"--are awesome. And of course, the historic debut of Mr. Socko. And then they top themselves. Clearly this was a night of backstage babyface attacks, but this is even better than some pretty good Nitro segments. They cram 3 or 4 super-memorable spots in the span of about 30 seconds.
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Blink and you'll miss David Flair's Nitro debut. Sad to watch in retrospect but this was *another* good segment for the best Nitro in God knows how long--maybe a full calendar year or more. Bischoff's new personal secretary Elizabeth is forced into calling Ric on the phone. He gets Beth instead, and then the real Flair is out followed by the rest of the Horsemen when the NWO B-teamers try to swarm Flair. Hot followup to a hot segment--smart babyfaces, are they really *that* hard to book?
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This got over huge and was another winner of a segment--what show am I watching? WCW really hit on something that almost *everyone* in that audience could relate to, in a way the company rarely ever did at this point. Getting browbeaten by your mother is almost as universal as wanting to stand up to your boss the way Austin did every week. Judy would quickly get overexposed both on- and off-camera, but her dropping Marcus with a slap was a terrific moment.
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Yeah, this was pretty great for the most part even though it was way, way overdue. This felt chaotic and out of control in a good way--organized chaos that still gets the point across. I hate Sting using a forklift because we've all expressed our thoughts on stunt driving, and Nash standing *under* the limo trying to get some sledgehammer shots in is one of the dumbest things I've seen on any wrestling program I've ever watched, but I liked this new pissed-off Wolfpack a lot. Kudos to them for having a reason for the camera being there on the bar-hopping.
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Best BattlArts match ever and fuck anyone who disagrees. This is worked as a total Inoki-Singh tribute, with both guys doing all of their respective signature spots, but done with about a million times more panache and urgency. Ishikawa gets his comeback and pounds Matsunaga into dust before this can wear out its welcome. A million billion stars, minus one or two because of Matsunaga not even trying to hide his little stabby thing from the ref.
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I've never really gotten what "cheap heat" means--a discussion of such might be worthy of its own thread. The Dudleys have been accused of it in situations like this but you can't say they lack guts.
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I've heard stories of Herd and WCW wanting to go after the WWF's best workers in late '89, and maybe even running a weekly live show. Names that were connected to the story were Bret, the Rockers, and Ted DiBiase. Naturally I can't actually source any of this. Edit: And all of the Money Inc.-Steiners matches were good.
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There's no way on the planet they're giving up on either guy that quickly.
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And Sting strikes me as being a MUCH bigger star in '88 than '90. I'm guessing Clash I was the largest TV audience he wrestled in front of until the Nitro era and certainly bigger than anything in 1990. Also, '88 was more about the sky being the limit rather than 1990's sense of "okay, he's the champ, now what?" It wasn't his *peak* as a star, but he was definitely a bigger force earlier on than in his first run at the top.
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I'm having trouble quoting now too, but getting back to Kobashi: - I didn't say he should or would be the Ace, or even the Top Contender. - There's no rule in AJPW or otherwise that being "a" contender is the same as being the only contender. This isn't the 1994-95 WWF women's division--Kawada can be the main rival and Kobashi can still be seen as a contender. All Parv and I and Chad, to some degree, are saying is that Kobashi's run to the top was slower than it would have been in almost any other promotion. Even if Choshu was booking the company and held off just as long in putting the TC on him, he'd doubtless have gotten those trademark Choshu upsets over the top dogs earlier.
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Speaking only has some nobody who's watched all of 1991 and '92 AJ television and too many hours of Yearbooks, I have to side with Parv on the Kobashi issue unless there's something I'm missing. Most any other booker would have put him over Hansen in '92 or '93 and made him a legitimate Triple Crown contender not long after. The high point of Kobashi's 1993 from a push as opposed to a workrate standpoint seemed to be being the fourth wheel in his first Budokan main event and being gift-wrapped a pin in the final RWTL match.
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Taz blows off Alfonso's invitation to form a new Triple Threat earlier in the night, then does so here for no other reason than to create artificial drama and to give a finish to the main event. How come Mikey, Nova, Chetti, et al didn't get *their* music played when they ran in?
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This sucked and had half a dozen different spots that just age horribly: the babyfaces using Jason's limp body to perform fellatio on Lance Wright, Chastity being a "slut" because she interferes, Kronus making out with Nicole Bass in a spot designed to elicit disgust in everyone, Bass selling a low blow like a man, and then Chastity getting spanked. Rod Price is a dead ringer for the Kung Fu-era Billy Graham and is only slightly less washed up. It doesn't speak much for Credible that he has to be surrounded by this freak show at all times to give the illusion that he's somebody.
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Bix's initial thoughts were correct--that was Victor Zangiev in UWFI and the "Carousel" armbar was his big specialty. I've found very little info on that last member of Team USA. His name as NJPW called him was either Mike Huff, Mike Haff, or Mike Hough (he was definitely listed by NJPW as Mike and not Mark--and it wasn't Mark Fleming, either). He wasn't quite 300 pounds but was otherwise a dead ringer for Gary Albright, right down to the red singlet. He had matches with Kengo Kimura and Saito that made NJPW TV or Classics.
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Yeah, Rock definitely should have done a clean job here and then everyone could pat themselves on the back about how Rock got over just by being in the presence of a legend. *cough* I didn't think the action here was bad at all, except for the blown first attempt at the finish. They should have changed gears and had Rock slip out of a tombstone or something after that.